Ex-Player Thread Kemar Roofe

[chuckbert]

Roofe has caused some controversy by scoring a handball goal for Leeds against Forest. Not quite Maradona, but controversial nevertheless. Can’t work out the link, but if you search YouTube for Roofe handball goal you’ll find it.

 

[Sarge]

does that equate to, not the Roofe being on fire, instead judging by the reactions a forest inferno? here it is @chuckbert .....

 

[SteMerritt]

Look at @Sarge with his video embedding!!! ?

 

[Sarge]

Look at @Sarge with his video embedding!!! ?

getting used to a new device .... albeit slowly

 

[MJB]

Look, if Roofe decides he wants to start handballing it, well we’re all just going to have to accept it.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

Look, if Roofe decides he wants to start handballing it, well we’re all just going to have to accept it.

Now hang on a second....he's hardly Peter Leven!

 

[Essexyellows]

Horrible bit of cheating. The crafty wink afterwards summed it all up. He can do so much better and would be better thought of if he had been honest. He knew.

 

[Marked Ox]

Horrible bit of cheating. The crafty wink afterwards summed it all up. He can do so much better and would be better thought of if he had been honest. He knew.

He's been corrupted by dirty Leeds.

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Talking of cheating (shame on you Roofe!) I watched some of the Spurs - Man City game last night. There are still players diving all over the place, deliberately running into other players legs and falling over etc. The worst they get is a yellow card, so maybe the calculation is that the reward of maybe getting a penalty is worth the risk of a yellow. I'd bring in retrospective punishment. A one game ban at the least.

 

[Marked Ox]

Talking of cheating (shame on you Roofe!) I watched some of the Spurs - Man City game last night. There are still players diving all over the place, deliberately running into other players legs and falling over etc. The worst they get is a yellow card, so maybe the calculation is that the reward of maybe getting a penalty is worth the risk of a yellow. I'd bring in retrospective punishment. A one game ban at the least.

Watching the A-League coverage and the VAR decisions further empathises this. When (and it will be sadly) it is introduced into the PL if they follow the A League approach then it is a cheaters/forwards charter. Players dive, then appeal for the decision and if the decision goes against them then that's it, absolutely no comeback. But if the defender gets the decision against them then they can get booked or red carded.

Retrospective bans for simulation have to introduced for this reason. Then the opportunist diving will hopefully eventually stop, creating a fairer situation and actually making the job easier for the officials.

This doesn't even take into account that the VAR decision is being made by the same official, so if they're not very good then absolute shockers of decisions continue to be made even after a VAR review. There has been pretty much a VAR shocker in every game I've seen so far. Pundit Mark Bosnich absolutely did his nut over 1 decision that was a blatant dive which got given as a penalty.

 

[Essexyellows]

Maybe I`m old fashioned but why would you need VAR if players were honest?
Roofe could have just said "Yes ref, it hit my arm"....... but he didn`t. Win at all costs????

 

[m]

Maybe I`m old fashioned but why would you need VAR if players were honest?
Roofe could have just said "Yes ref, it hit my arm"....... but he didn`t. Win at all costs????

Agree with the sentiment but is it that simple?

Imagine the defence has been kicking you away from the refs sight all game, chronic verbals from the opposition keeper about how s**t you are etc. etc,

The moral high ground is all well and good but sometimes the 'ha ha, f**k you!' is required.

 

[MarkG]

Maybe I`m old fashioned but why would you need VAR if players were honest?
Roofe could have just said "Yes ref, it hit my arm"....... but he didn`t. Win at all costs????

There's an interview afterwards where he says something like "the ref and the assistants gave it, ball to arm ...". As there is no VAR then you have to take the ref's decision as they could go for you this time, but not the next.

Looking at the video though, there does seem to be him raising his arm as it misses the rest of his body, rather than it hitting him with arms doing nothing.

 

[Sarge]

Talking of cheating (shame on you Roofe!) I watched some of the Spurs - Man City game last night. There are still players diving all over the place, deliberately running into other players legs and falling over etc. The worst they get is a yellow card, so maybe the calculation is that the reward of maybe getting a penalty is worth the risk of a yellow. I'd bring in retrospective punishment. A one game ban at the least.

Shirt pulling & 'holding' opponents is absolutely rife too .... until the FA clearly instruct matchday referees to allow their assistant referees ( linesmen/women) to ASSIST them, instead of, as I'm led to believe, (and many decisions by clearly best positioned assistant referees are not, err, flagged up!!! - much to the annoyance of paying football supporters from EPL to National league, and beyond), as it stands currently referees are apparently able (?) to instruct their assistant referees, that all they want giving by them are for instance thrown ins, goal-kicks, corners and offsides (or similar 'restrictions'), the sooner, IMO, there will be a bit more consistency from matchday officials in all matches

 

[Marked Ox]

Maybe I`m old fashioned but why would you need VAR if players were honest?
Roofe could have just said "Yes ref, it hit my arm"....... but he didn`t. Win at all costs????

VAR would be used as players do misjudge challenges, debatable offsides etc. I still don't want VAR though.

 

[Winchesterox]

Embedded video has been removed I think...

 

[LondonRoader]

Whether he's one of our ex players or not, that's cheating, he celebrated straight away to convince the ref it was a legit goal. The high pressure game to get to the prem and the 10's millions available.

 

[Foley]

That's exactly what VAR is for. To stop bad decisions. With VAR that wouldn't have stood.
VAR of course is to stop clear errors occurring. The trouble is that 'experts ' in TV studios will argue over marginal decisions (which often they can't agree on) and say how awful VAR is. But it will stop bad decisions.

 

[Marked Ox]

That's exactly what VAR is for. To stop bad decisions. With VAR that wouldn't have stood.
VAR of course is to stop clear errors occurring. The trouble is that 'experts ' in TV studios will argue over marginal decisions (which often they can't agree on) and say how awful VAR is. But it will stop bad decisions.

It hasn't stopped bad decisions in the A League as VAR has caused the bad decisions.

 

[windmill]

Maybe I`m old fashioned but why would you need VAR if players were honest?
Roofe could have just said "Yes ref, it hit my arm"....... but he didn`t. Win at all costs????

Players being honest? Its dog eat dog. Win at all costs?..........Absolutely. No prizes for coming second.

 

[Witneyoldfella]

What did it say in the Sundays?? Roofe goal, if that had been against the scum at the County Ground would have all celebrated wouldn't we???

 

[Peterdev]

In the gossip column of the Birmingham Mail there appears to be three way interest in Kemal Roofe. Wolves, Southampton and Crystal Palace looking to bid in January.
Anyone know if we have a sell on clause?
I’m inclined to think though that Leeds will be able to keep their player as they are looking good for promotion with Palaca an Saints looking possibles for the drop

 

[Oldham]

In the gossip column of the Birmingham Mail there appears to be three way interest in Kemal Roofe. Wolves, Southampton and Crystal Palace looking to bid in January.
Anyone know if we have a sell on clause?
I’m inclined to think though that Leeds will be able to keep their player as they are looking good for promotion with Palaca an Saints looking possibles for the drop

We’ve never had a player called Kemal Roofe ?

 

[Gary Baldi]

I believe we have a sell on clause for Roofe, and he played very well yesterday, so it's no surprise to see teams interested in him,

 

[FalmouthOx]

18 months of contract left and Leeds fan desperate he signs an extension soon, even if it makes him the clubs top earner. Well done lad! Suggest he is worth £15m - if he is sold on, do we get any? Does anyone really know?

 

[Grumpy Git]

Good luck to him. He dropped to league 2 and proved himself. Hope he gets a crack at the Premiershite. He'll be on mega wages soon.

 

[Mystery Yellow]

18 months of contract left and Leeds fan desperate he signs an extension soon, even if it makes him the clubs top earner. Well done lad! Suggest he is worth £15m - if he is sold on, do we get any? Does anyone really know?

I’d be surprised & annoyed if we didn’t put a sell on fee on the deal to sell him knowing if he could do what he did in league 2 & do the same in the championship they would be premiership clubs interest in him, he could easily go for £10-15m at this moment in time hopefully with 20% or 25% sell on fee benefiting us, Wolves Crystal Palace Southampton all interested & all clubs struggling for goals

 

[werthersoriginal]

Players being honest? Its dog eat dog. Win at all costs?..........Absolutely. No prizes for coming second.

It’s only entertainment. Putting the ball in the net would have been a reflex, but imagine the credit he would have got if he’d owned up to the ref

 

[FalmouthOx]

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I’d be surprised & annoyed if we didn’t put a sell on fee on the deal to sell him knowing if he could do what he did in league 2 & do the same in the championship they would be premiership clubs interest in him, he could easily go for £10-15m at this moment in time hopefully with 20% or 25% sell on fee benefiting us, Wolves Crystal Palace Southampton all interested & all clubs struggling for goals

Got to be worth 20m+ surely. Drop in the ocean for teams who need to stay up. Could be on 50k a week if he plays his cards right. Got the might of minimum Leeds top earner wages in his pocket. Hope his dad isnt his agent.

 

[forevayella]

Rumours that Rangers are looking at him. Anyone know if we have a sell on?