Ex-Player Thread Josh Murphy

chromeyellow said:
Manning played him when Manning joined us. We were in an injury crisis, if you recall.

I think Murphy started two games for us the following season under Manning.

1 Football league trophy and 1 league cup. he didn't start a league game.

Murphy has subsequently shown his quality- first for us and then at a higher level this season.

Short picked him against Chelsea
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OK but what's your overall point? That Manning's an idiot? Hard to make that stick given that he's about to lead Bristol City to their highest finish in almost two decades (after doing an outstanding job with us). The guy's a snake.....but he also clearly knows what he's doing.

Or just that good managers can occasionally make bad decisions? In which case, fair enough, but all you have to do to prove that point is yell 'Eric Djemba-Djemba'.......
 
My point was about Murphy, not Manning. I was saying that you can't complain that Murphy only performed for half a season when he was frozen out for the other half of that season.

Manning is a good (if dull) manager who is holding his own as a championship manager. Murphy is an outstanding player who is leading the championship on assists whilst performing in a weaker team. Both of them left us. I have fonder memories of JM than LM
 
chromeyellow said:
My point was about Murphy, not Manning. I was saying that you can't complain that Murphy only performed for half a season when he was frozen out for the other half of that season.

Manning is a good (if dull) manager who is holding his own as a championship manager. Murphy is an outstanding player who is leading the championship on assists whilst performing in a weaker team. Both of them left us. I have fonder memories of JM than LM
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What about the season before Manning then? Murphy was either crap when he did play or he went missing for weeks under Robinson.

I didnt care that much that Murphy left because we didnt know what Murphy wed get this season and for the next 2 if hed have signed for us. if wed have done a good enough job in replacing his end of season form then there would be no argument on if Murphy shouldve signed or not, instead we signed two players that are nowhere near as good.

Happy for Murphy to have rediscovered his joy for football again.
 
I can't remember (in 50+ years of support) watching a player who was so completely transformed over just a few months. It was bizarre. For 18 months, he was awful. Then all of a sudden, the best player in L1. By miles. I was at Burton sitting with the home fans. They just couldn't believe what they were seeing- they clapped him off. And he's obviously carried on this season. Probably too late for him to get back to the PL, but you never know. Just the sort of player Leeds or Burnley would take a punt on.
 
Northernyellow said:
I can't remember (in 50+ years of support) watching a player who was so completely transformed over just a few months. It was bizarre. For 18 months, he was awful. Then all of a sudden, the best player in L1. By miles. I was at Burton sitting with the home fans. They just couldn't believe what they were seeing- they clapped him off. And he's obviously carried on this season. Probably too late for him to get back to the PL, but you never know. Just the sort of player Leeds or Burnley would take a punt on.
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Last year was the time to do that, would have been available on a free. He is probably as good as his brother but his head has been his problem, once he got that right he has shown his talent.
 
Northernyellow said:
You're right. He's certainly got the ability. But there was just no glimpse of this under KR. Manning obviously didn't rate him.
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A lot of managers had failed to get anything out of him for a period of time, at Cardiff, Preston and us. He failed to get a deal at Reading even, and that’s a damning indictment. I don’t think anyone will truly know why, but Des deserves a huge amount of credit for Murphy likely retiring a multi millionaire rather than booting around League 2.

Something clicked completely.

We miss him (Murphy) more than I thought we would (and I thought we’d miss him a lot).
 
greatunclekip said:
A lot of managers had failed to get anything out of him for a period of time, at Cardiff, Preston and us. He failed to get a deal at Reading even, and that’s a damning indictment. I don’t think anyone will truly know why, but Des deserves a huge amount of credit for Murphy likely retiring a multi millionaire rather than booting around League 2.

Something clicked completely.

We miss him (Murphy) more than I thought we would (and I thought we’d miss him a lot).
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he was probably a multimillionaire already to be honest. He went to Cardiff for 11 million and was there for 4 years.
 
Been out for three weeks with an ankle injury, not returned to training yet.
 
Strange, another Championship club who finished higher than us last season and are currently higher than us are willing to give him a deal until 2028, and yet it wasn’t worthwhile us offering him that at the time - better to spend more money than that would have cost on Phillips and Dembele I suppose… 🤔

Not signing up Murphy was possibly the most baffling decision made by this club for a long, long time.
 
Isle of Wight Yellow said:
Strange, another Championship club who finished higher than us last season and are currently higher than us are willing to give him a deal until 2028, and yet it wasn’t worthwhile us offering him that at the time - better to spend more money than that would have cost on Phillips and Dembele I suppose… 🤔

Not signing up Murphy was possibly the most baffling decision made by this club for a long, long time.
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Interesting to know what we did offer him, I take it you know or are you just guessing?
 
Isle of Wight Yellow said:
Strange, another Championship club who finished higher than us last season and are currently higher than us are willing to give him a deal until 2028, and yet it wasn’t worthwhile us offering him that at the time - better to spend more money than that would have cost on Phillips and Dembele I suppose… 🤔

Not signing up Murphy was possibly the most baffling decision made by this club for a long, long time.
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Your first paragraph is purely hindsight.

Your second is inaccurate - we tried to sign him, but he went for a better offer and to a city that his partner preferred.

Making constant digs about the club’s actions on this matter is unfair in my view.
 
Pgyellow said:
I got the impression he really didn't want to stay if there was another option.
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No OUFC fans should be complaining about anything the club did when it comes to losing Murphy. It was the fan's (collective) fault that he wanted to play somewhere else. The abuse he got during his first 18 months with us was remembered by his missus, even if Josh himself was more forgiving.

I'm not saying some of the flack that came his way wasn't warranted (he was absolutely shite and didn't look interested) but talking about contract lengths and money is absolute b*****s in this case - he would've moved anyway.
 
Lost Marbles said:
No OUFC fans should be complaining about anything the club did when it comes to losing Murphy. It was the fan's (collective) fault that he wanted to play somewhere else. The abuse he got during his first 18 months with us was remembered by his missus, even if Josh himself was more forgiving.

I'm not saying some of the flack that came his way wasn't warranted (he was absolutely shite and didn't look interested) but talking about contract lengths and money is absolute b*****s in this case - he would've moved anyway.
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And yes injured again at Portsmouth a liability as he gets older . Move on he served a purpose!
 
Lost Marbles said:
No OUFC fans should be complaining about anything the club did when it comes to losing Murphy. It was the fan's (collective) fault that he wanted to play somewhere else. The abuse he got during his first 18 months with us was remembered by his missus, even if Josh himself was more forgiving.

I'm not saying some of the flack that came his way wasn't warranted (he was absolutely shite and didn't look interested) but talking about contract lengths and money is absolute b*****s in this case - he would've moved anyway.
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Some have short memories. I still remember when he scored after getting loads of abuse and every player made a point of celebrating with him.
 
Lost Marbles said:
No OUFC fans should be complaining about anything the club did when it comes to losing Murphy. It was the fan's (collective) fault that he wanted to play somewhere else. The abuse he got during his first 18 months with us was remembered by his missus, even if Josh himself was more forgiving.

I'm not saying some of the flack that came his way wasn't warranted (he was absolutely shite and didn't look interested) but talking about contract lengths and money is absolute b*****s in this case - he would've moved anyway.
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That mentality is why he has never fulfilled his potential, why his prime years see him playing for Portsmouth and not at Newcastle like his brother, which he comfortably had the ability to do. Not saying he is wrong to let stuff like that bother him as a person but the the very top level players don’t, possibly the only difference between the brothers is Jacob seems mentally tougher.

Ironically if he didn’t have that flaw he would never have played for us so good that he did. Remember saying in his second season that, whether he continues as a flop or gets in the team and shines, he will not be here the following season, it was fairly obvious, so his time here had the happiest possible ending for me.
 
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