Jeremy Corbyn

[Anthomic]

Where was Jeremy Corbyn on Friday evening? I never spotted him at the Royal Albert Hall as hard as I looked, was it to much trouble for him to turn up or are my eyes failing me. They were good enough to pick out Emily Thornberry.

 

[ljs]

No idea. He laid a wreath at the Cenotaph today though.

Wearing a very fetching hooded anorak too.

 

[Sarge]

Jezza's many , many supporters do seem to be able to nick a popularish track, change the lyrics and make it their own .....

 

[My Manor]

Would that be the same Michael Foot who fed information to the Russians?

 

[MarkG]

In the honourable tradition of Michael Foot's duffle coat.

Donkey jacket was the tale. Even if wasn’t a donkey jacket.

 

[My Manor]

I'm so very sorry to interfere on your forum, I'll just run away and leave all to you.

 

[makv]

Where was Jeremy Corbyn on Friday evening? I never spotted him at the Royal Albert Hall as hard as I looked, was it to much trouble for him to turn up or are my eyes failing me. They were good enough to pick out Emily Thornberry.

What was going on at the Albert Hall?

 

[Peterdev]

I heard it was a green donkey jacket Michael wore. Corbyn looked very in keeping with his hoodie and red tie.Come to think of where was Diane Abbott? Maybe she thought the event wasn’t until 31 Novemeber

 

[Gary Baldi]

Wasn't he eating fish and chips in Yorkshire?

 

[Anthomic]

Wearing a very fetching hooded anorak too.

Probably had advice on the dress code from our manager.

 

[SiHath]

So Corbyn turns up to the the Cenotaph in a coat with a hood and gets slated.

May's austerity policies have resulted in the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, or vulnerable people. But hey, she's got a lovely coat!

 

[ljs]

So Corbyn turns up to the the Cenotaph in a coat with a hood and gets slated.

May's austerity policies have resulted in the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, or vulnerable people. But hey, she's got a lovely coat!

Who's slated him?

 

[Deleted member 291]

So Corbyn turns up to the the Cenotaph in a coat with a hood and gets slated.

May's austerity policies have resulted in the deaths of hundreds, if not thousands, or vulnerable people. But hey, she's got a lovely coat!

I'm not her biggest fan but that's a bit of an over reaction isn't it?

 

[SiHath]

Who's slated him?

Media.

 

[SiHath]

I'm not her biggest fan but that's a bit of an over reaction isn't it?

Which is the over reaction? The nice coat or the thousands killed by austerity?

 

[Deleted member 291]

Which is the over reaction? The nice coat or the thousands killed by austerity?

You know which.

 

[Morris Oxford]

Perfect example of how a totally unnecessary thread takes on a life of its own and spirals out of control!

The OP seems to be making the political point that Corbyn wasn't at some pre-Remembrance Sunday event at the Albert Hall. Apologies @Anthomic if I've misinterpreted this, but it was fairly irrelevant anyway as Corbyn was at the more meaningful event on Sunday.

There was some light-hearted comment about Corbyn's attire from @ljs and Michael Foot's duffel coat from a previous era from myself.

Then more irrelevancy from @My Manor about Foot and spying for Russia. When I queried the relevancy of this the poster flounced off in a huff.

There was then uncertainty over whether Corbyn's attire had actually been slated or not, and reference from @SiHath about Tory austerity measures affecting the health of the nation and that being a rather more important issue.

If only the club would reveal a bit more about what's going on with Thohir, HMRC, Nile Ranger etc etc ....

Yeah but Corbyn says we can't stop Brexit, whereas his Shadow Brexit Secretary says we can.

 

[Gary Baldi]

I did think the coat looked a bit scruffy and not in keeping of the occasion. Have refrained from saying so in case anyone got offended.

To be fair, Angus Robertson took the time to wear a kilt, so a little effort for anyone isn't that hard.

Foot did spy at some level for Russia it seems, there was a furore about it a month or two. Damned Murdoch media right?

 

[Ox4Eva]

sure he would have made more of an effort had it been an IRA event!

 

[SiHath]

I did think the coat looked a bit scruffy and not in keeping of the occasion. Have refrained from saying so in case anyone got offended.

To be fair, Angus Robertson took the time to wear a kilt, so a little effort for anyone isn't that hard.

Foot did spy at some level for Russia it seems, there was a furore about it a month or two. Damned Murdoch media right?

Really? Claims published in the Times in the 70's(?) that Foot sued them for libel and won.

http://theconversation.com/michael-...y-mi6-should-come-clean-about-the-past-103490

 

[Paul Cannell]

Foot never spied for USSR. He won a libel action about the Times' claim. It was detailed in Private Eye about a month ago.

 

[m]

Tsk. You can prove anything with facts.

 

[Gary Baldi]

Really? Claims published in the Times in the 70's(?) that Foot sued them for libel and won.

http://theconversation.com/michael-...y-mi6-should-come-clean-about-the-past-103490

I think this quote sums it up. Another case of confirmation bias!

So, if the contents of the KGB archives was reported accurately by Gordievsky, and assuming Lyubimov and Kubeykin were being honest, what does this tell us? Essentially, that Gordievsky believed his predecessors in London and that MI6, in turn, believed Gordievsky. But the truth is that, until archival evidence becomes available, it is very difficult to draw any firm conclusions. We also don’t really know what MI6 made of this – we only know what some anonymous individuals have informed a journalist.

I should have put Murdoch Media in "" to be clear that there is a taint there.

Whether it be tittle tattle or even passing on stuff without realising, Foot's behaviour and ideology was enough to warrant MI6 to take things seriously. A useful idiot perhaps?

 

[Paul Cannell]

None of the above. Foot was a British patriot and democratic socialist. Repeating disproved slurs and, when you are corrected, repeating them as insinuations should be beneath you.

 

[Essexyellows]

Which is the over reaction? The nice coat or the thousands killed by austerity?

Hate to be a pedant but every year 1187 people per 100,000 of population just die. We don`t live forever.

 

[Gary Baldi]

None of the above. Foot was a British patriot and democratic socialist. Repeating disproved slurs and, when you are corrected, repeating them as insinuations should be beneath you.

Are you not concerned that he took Russian money? Or that MI6 were concerned about him to potentially tell the Queen? Does taking money make you a spy, useful idiot, a patsy, whatever nomenclature you want to use?

Would a British Patriot just say no?

 

[SiHath]

Hate to be a pedant but every year 1187 people per 100,000 of population just die. We don`t live forever.

More pedantry: There were around 120,000 more deaths in total between 2010 and 2017 than there would have been had the mortality rate between 2001 and 2010 continued.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-cuts-to-nhs-blamed-for-120000-excess-deaths/

 

[SiHath]

Are you not concerned that he took Russian money? Or that MI6 were concerned about him to potentially tell the Queen? Does taking money make you a spy, useful idiot, a patsy, whatever nomenclature you want to use?

Would a British Patriot just say no?

What, like Boris (man of the people) Johnson?

 

[Paul Cannell]

Are you not concerned that he took Russian money? Or that MI6 were concerned about him to potentially tell the Queen? Does taking money make you a spy, useful idiot, a patsy, whatever nomenclature you want to use?

Would a British Patriot just say no?

He never took Russian money.

 

[SiHath]

Yep. I think it's not so much that people die, but how and when they die. Many different ways of looking at this, but as an example lack of investment in the ambulance service = longer waits for transport to hospital and subsequent treatment = less chance of recovery.

Where I live a donkey could stand for the Tories and be elected - in fact, she did - yet locals constantly moan about street lights going off early, verges not being cut, litter bins not being emptied. When you try to tie in these in to lack of central government funding (austerity) you get blank looks of denial. I've been called an idiot for simply suggesting austerity is actually a thing, let alone linking it to poorer services.

People round here get exactly what they vote for. (Like Brexit for instance. Farmers were at the forefront of the 'out' campaign round here, and are only just realising they don't have enough east Europeans to pick their crops. These people are still entitled to come here, but many have gone home as they feel unwelcome, and who can blame them.)

Absolutely agree.

The recent announcment that "Austerity is over" after the budget is laughable. Unless investment in services (mental health, NHS staffing, SureStart, day centres, disability allowances, etc, etc etc) are returned to the pre-austerity levels, then people (usually the poorest) will continue to suffer.