Transfer News January Changes

[Witneyoldfella]

I know it might be a bit early to start this thread but who should go and who would we like in?

In an ideal world I would ship out Shodipo, Agyei, Sykes where appropriate sell or loan.

Bring in Marcus Browne, Nathan Holland , an experienced Centre Back and another left back, again on loan/buy where squad numbers allow.

Otherwise with the current squad (plus Cam fit again) we will struggle to stay up, just my opinion.

We were promised pace up front on the left, but can we combine that with someone who doesn't run into cul de sacs and plays like a headless chicken.

Just my thoughts , lets discuss

 

[Archieyellow]

Would you stop with just them 3 out? I would be looking at around 6 -8 out, as long as we bring better in

 

[Discoland]

Out:
Sykes
Hanson
Hall
Agyei
Eastwood
Napa
Shodipo
Deregister Mousinho from squad if he isnt going to play

In:
Goalkeeper
CB x 2
Back up RB
CM
RW/RM
Young PL striker on loan to replace Agyei, shame Scrimshaw from Bournemouth isnt an option.
Obita 1 year extension
Another young PL winger on loan.

 

[ECYellow]

People suggesting Sykes or Agyei should be shipped out is bizarre. Neither player has been afforded anything like the number of chances compared to the likes of Henry, Ruffles (who’s been poor, Eastwood and Kelly.

Both players have been singled out by our Manager recently and it seems like some are using Robinson’s white noise as a reason to discard both of them. If they’re going, we must be having a complete overhaul!

EDIT: If we’re looking to ship players out, IMO we should be looking at Hall (waste of a year’s contract and seems more and more like a sentimental decision) and Hanson before we look at players with clear potential in Sykes and Agyei

 

[Sheik djibouti]

So....L1 (minimum) quality players, with experience, intelligence and a cool head in a crisis....available in January...with our record in previous windows.

If anything it will be more gambles and punts with fingers crossed that this roll of the dice will come off in reality.

I would love to see 2 from Browne, Holland & Whyte and an experienced quality CB all come here, but the chances I think are slim at best, unless clubs need to offload to survive (and that might be us before too long).

Our biggest struggle will be shipping out any permanents no longer want to make room in the first place. If they have contracts we will have to pay them off or find someone willing to take them off our hands.....extremely unlikely in the current climate on both counts I would think. Money is very hard to come by for most clubs outside the Prem.

Sorry to be so negative, but I just can't see it!

 

[bashamwonderland]

We have a constant obsession with asking to see players who have already played for us return, despite the fact that they have moved on and/or snubbed us for a new opportunity.

Also, I can't see how people are not seeing what Agyei can bring to this team. He's not being used properly - that's a Karl problem and not a player problem. We need pace and he's one of the only players who can provide it.

Agreed that Hanson and Hall have to go. Mous should be deregistered and Shodipo can go home. Otherwise I don't see why Eastwood has to go in Jan (he needs a long break and would not be redundant as cover for Stevens) and Sykes can be useful when necessary.

This is a management problem, not really a personnel problem.

 

[Discoland]

People suggesting Sykes or Agyei should be shipped out is bizarre. Neither player has been afforded anything like the number of chances compared to the likes of Henry, Ruffles (who’s been poor, Eastwood and Kelly.

Both players have been singled out by our Manager recently and it seems like some are using Robinson’s white noise as a reason to discard both of them. If they’re going, we must be having a complete overhaul!

Personally I think if Robinson isnt going to use Agyei as a striker he should go. We saw how well he played against Portsmouth but of hes going to be played on the wing we would be better off getting an actual winger and signing a new Striker Robinson seems fit for purpose.

Sykes has been poor this season and after Robinsons comments about him going out on loan last summer and his latest one about everyone telling him hes a good player he must be wondering where he fits in. He does deserve more chances but again, if hes not going to be playing and Robinson doesnt rate him why should he still be at the club at the end of the window?

I think they're both solid L1 players if played to their strengths but this comes down to management more than it does the players themselves.

 

[ECYellow]

Personally I think if Robinson isnt going to use Agyei as a striker he should go. We saw how well he played against Portsmouth but of hes going to be played on the wing we would be better off getting an actual winger and signing a new Striker Robinson seems fit for purpose.

Sykes has been poor this season and after Robinsons comments about him going out on loan last summer and his latest one about everyone telling him hes a good player he must be wondering where he fits in. He does deserve more chances but again, if hes not going to be playing and Robinson doesnt rate him why should he still be at the club at the end of the window?

I think they're both solid L1 players if played to their strengths but this comes down to management more than it does the players themselves.

see your last paragraph. Perhaps there in lies the problem.

 

[ljs]

What are Sykes strengths, and where should he be played?

I have no idea, as he's not quick enough to be used wide of a front three, and not strong enough, or a great passer or influential enough as a midfielder.


Agyei, if used properly (ie not wide right) could be decent.

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Retire Mous as a player - if he is so delicate that we are hesitating to play him, then we need an experienced defender to replace him as an option.
I'd like us to get rid of Hanson - although I am not sure who'd take him.
Hall was apparently excellent in training earlier in the season but isn't being played. If he is now fit and not good enough to start then he needs to be deregistered and loaned out.
The fate of some of the loanees must depend very much on how they perform between now and January.
I suspect there won't be as much change as we are hoping.

 

[Discoland]

see your last paragraph. Perhaps there in lies the problem.

I 100% agree with you, it's the point I'm making, but short of changing the manager his selections won't change and I can't see him leaving or being pushed before January.

Im looking at this objectively. If KR isnt going we should have players that will actually be useful in the squad, whether that means us losing two good players or not. If I was Sykes or Agyei I'd be looking at leaving anyway for a team that will play to my strengths in a position I'm comfortable and can perform week in week out.

 

[southcoastyellow]

Agyei seems to have the physical attributes to be a good player, just don’t think he has the mentality/and understanding of the game, maybe a loan away to play more regularly would be best for both. Agree we need to have a cull of players but only if other teams will take them. I.e Hanson expensive and always injured can’t imagine many would be interested??

 

[Yellowken]

I take it that we have the money available?

 

[ZeroTheHero]

I take it that we have the money available?

Who knows? And if we do, we don't really know where it is coming from or why

 

[mooro]

Out:
Sykes
Hanson
Hall
Agyei
Eastwood
Napa
Shodipo
Deregister Mousinho from squad if he isnt going to play

In:
Goalkeeper
CB x 2
Back up RB
CM
RW/RM
Young PL striker on loan to replace Agyei, shame Scrimshaw from Bournemouth isnt an option.
Obita 1 year extension
Another young PL winger on loan.

There is no way we, or any club, are going to see anything like this many movements during the January window, however what happens in the summer is another question.

However from your list:
- Mous - the squad rules may mean the end for him as we cannot just keep him in the background as an occasional stopgap while he awaits his op anymore,
- Eastwood - agree that Stevens should start at the moment, but dont think we should be thinking about shipping Eastwood out straight away - he would still be a decent player to have on the bench, will be able to offer experience and advice to young Jack, and in all likelihood may well recover some form after a little time out of the firing line.
- Hanson and Hall - not going to be able to offer much to the side, but also unlikely to find suitable clubs that will take them, so fear we are stuck with them (or have to pay them off)
- Shodipo - has until January to show the right approach as there have been flashes but his whole attitude on Saturday will linger
- Agyei - raw, but worth persevering with I think, particularly as a backup centrally.
- Sykes - I agree with ljs and others - I'm just not convinced and is maybe someone that another club will be willing to take on. He may come back to haunt us in the future if he does, and if so good luck to him, but just seems to be a bit of a nearly man for me...
- Napa - may need to move on (and initially down) to get anywhere, but with his injury nightmares he may struggle to find a club to take him on permanently, but I think his chance here has passed. Is he actually on the list of 22 anyway?

So - I would look to:
i) move Sykes on; bring in a specialist backup DM;
ii) bring an experienced CB and deregister Mous;
iii) make Hanson, Hall and Napa available (but dont rely on them getting any offers);
iv) try to get Osei Yaw out on loan somewhere upto Christmas, then bring him into the 22 instead of one of these (perhaps deregistering one of them if none can be moved on);
v) then make a decision on whether to stick or twist with Shodipo nearer the time.

 

[Oufcrealist]

This is the third season running we are having this discussion. I think it's absolutely evident where the problem lies.
KR and his recruitment team constantly get it wrong pre season, poor management is what it is. There is obviously something wrong with not getting the right players in early enough. Every season we start with an imbalanced squad and end up scrabbling around for out of contract players or panic loanees.
Poor!!

 

[Sarge]

This is the third season running we are having this discussion. I think it's absolutely evident where the problem lies.
KR and his recruitment team constantly get it wrong pre season, poor management is what it is. There is obviously something wrong with not getting the right players in early enough. Every season we start with an imbalanced squad and end up scrabbling around for out of contract players or panic loanees.
Poor!!

tend to agree ...need some fresh blood in two key departments I think













This season coaching is falling way ( err) Short

... and the recruitment/ scouting leaves much to be desired


new Coaches and Scouts then

 

[horseman]

I take it that we have the money available?

Don't be sensible fans don't think of such things, it's get rid without any thought process as to whom we can go for that wants to come here and in January that traditional time for getting good players in.

it's not their money

 

[Berliner]

tend to agree ...need some fresh blood in two key departments I think

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This season coaching is falling way ( err) Short

... and the recruitment/ scouting leaves much to be desired


new Coaches and Scouts then

Thought you meant we need a new positive bus there for a second...

 

[mooro]

Thought you meant we need a new positive bus there for a second...

I thought he meant we need Steve Anthrobus back......