Media ITV Meridian 6pm 30/7/2024

[Village-Yellow]

Seems to have been driven by Oxvox as Paul Peros was interviewed saying fans have not been treated fairly

Does anyone know if Oxvox were consulted on the better than expected season ticket prices.

Did Oxvox push for this very reasonable price increase ?

 

[oufc1991]

I think fair play to Oxvox for coming out like that and basically saying all isn’t great with the commercial side of things at the moment

As for the fan they spoke to it may have just been me but I got the impression of sour grapes because they didn’t get an away membership. There are far more important issues going on at the moment than some fan not getting an away membership I’m afraid

 

[Morris Oxford]

I wonder if Oxvox were stung by the reaction and criticism of members (justified in my view) to the compliant tone of their response to the Matete affair.

Yes it’s good see OxVox pushing back and showing some teeth, but I’m surprised it’s the membership issue that’s been targeted so strongly.

Anyway I’m a bit confused here. Am I correct in saying that OUSP say they were consulted on the membership issue and fully agreed with it and that’s why we’ve seen it pushed so strongly on here, while OxVox say they were not consulted it was more a ‘fait accompli’ and that’s why we now have this contradiction between OUSP and OxVox?

 

[Manorlounger]

I wonder if Oxvox were stung by the reaction and criticism of members (justified in my view) to the compliant tone of their response to the Matete affair.

Yes it’s good see OxVox pushing back and showing some teeth, but I’m surprised it’s the membership issue that’s been targeted so strongly.

Anyway I’m a bit confused here. Am I correct in saying that OUSP say they were consulted on the membership issue and fully agreed with it and that’s why we’ve seen it pushed so strongly on here, while OxVox say they were not consulted it was more a ‘fait accompli’ and that’s why we now have this contradiction between OUSP and OxVox?

No, I believe they were both consulted or rather, informed, at very short notice. OUSP reminded OUFC of the agreed obligations under the terms of the MoU and received an apology from Benson. (not good enough, in my opinion) It sounds as though both @OxVox and @OUSP were less than impressed.

I believe the difference in how this has been communicated by the two is what is slightly confusing. @OxVox appear now, to be reacting to feedback from members. What difference that will make is indeterminate.
What is clear is that relations between both supporter groups and the club are not good. A tactical move by Benson? Who knows.

 

[Morris Oxford]

No, I believe they were both consulted or rather, informed, at very short notice. OUSP reminded OUFC of the agreed obligations under the terms of the MoU and received an apology from Benson. (not good enough, in my opinion) It sounds as though both @OxVox and @OUSP were less than impressed.

I believe the difference in how this has been communicated by the two is what is slightly confusing. @OxVox appear now, to be reacting to feedback from members. What difference that will make is indeterminate.
What is clear is that relations between both supporter groups and the club are not good. A tactical move by Benson? Who knows.

Thanks for that. So neither OUSP or Oxvox were actually consulted , they were just informed of the club’s decision?

 

[Manorlounger]

Thanks for that. So neither OUSP or Oxvox were actually consulted , they were just informed of the club’s decision?

That's my understanding from what each have informed supporters.

 

[Bicester Yellow]

Thanks for that. So neither OUSP or Oxvox were actually consulted , they were just informed of the club’s decision?

Would fit in with how the club is being run currently. Consult at short notice & basically saying whatever plans/proposals they have, they are going through anyway whether you like it or not, but we’ve made you aware so you can’t say we haven’t.

That’s how it seems to me.

 

[Robie]

Strange story for OxVox to jump on especially with the freudian slip of “we / the club decided on the membership structure.”

The most loyal of fans didn’t manage to get an away membership. Points based systems could be fairer but they may also be less fair for others.

 

[Morris Oxford]

No, I believe they were both consulted or rather, informed, at very short notice. OUSP reminded OUFC of the agreed obligations under the terms of the MoU and received an apology from Benson. (not good enough, in my opinion) It sounds as though both @OxVox and @OUSP were less than impressed.

I believe the difference in how this has been communicated by the two is what is slightly confusing. @OxVox appear now, to be reacting to feedback from members. What difference that will make is indeterminate.
What is clear is that relations between both supporter groups and the club are not good. A tactical move by Benson? Who knows.

I’d be interested to know from those individuals at the meeting if they felt Benson’s apology was sincere and heartfelt?

 

[Village-Yellow]

Strange story for OxVox to jump on especially with the freudian slip of “we / the club decided on the membership structure.”

The most loyal of fans didn’t manage to get an away membership. Points based systems could be fairer but they may also be less fair for others.

I wonder how this hierarchy works ?

Most Loyal
Mostly Loyal
Reasonably Loyal
Loyal
Home Fan Only
Away Fan Only
Mixture Home/Away
No Longer Loyal
Newbie
Day Tripper
Armchair

 

[werthersoriginal]

I wonder how this hierarchy works ?

Most Loyal
Mostly Loyal
Reasonably Loyal
Loyal
Home Fan Only
Away Fan Only
Mixture Home/Away
No Longer Loyal
Newbie
Day Tripper
Armchair

You missed’Plastic’

 

[LowerSouth]

Silly season story. I’m surprised P Peros went on, minor matter really.

Far more worried about the planning committte decision delay, no idea why everyone appears so cushty on that.

After being ignored by a the club, I think it was an important way of pushing back .
As for the planning, not sure what more can be done.
Everything is in place and a decision is the best part of seven months away ( late Feb).
I’m sure there will be a push once January arrives .

 

[Essexyellows]

If anyone thinks either supporters group was "consulted" then they are wrong.

This was a business decision by the Club, which we probably all knew was coming. Personally I think it was the right decision, albeit handled badly, to facilitate the management of ticket sales.

I`ll cut the club a tiny bit of slack for the "doing" but that is only because those in charge had no Plan B that we would get promoted. That was incredibly lazy and the cause of a lot of issues from shirts to memberships.

Its nice to see that OxVox won`t sit still and take it lying down, like an obedient lapdog, and are reminding the Club that without us, they are nothing and FOMO cuts both ways when things are not as rosy as they are now.

One United Voice is what we need.

 

[Morris Oxford]

A lot more OUFC supporters will see the Meridian TV piece than will ever listen to the price of football podcast.

If you genuinely want to engage and communicate with the local fanbase, FFs FMFFs, Rad Ox and local TV is what you need to do, but it might mean one or two awkward questions.

I wonder how the club will respond or if at all?

I also wonder if @OUSP agree with, and support @OxVox TV piece?

 

[Essexyellows]

A lot more OUFC supporters will see the Meridian TV piece than will ever listen to the price of football podcast.

If you genuinely want to engage and communicate with the local fanbase, FFs FMFFs, Rad Ox and local TV is what you need to do, but it might mean one or two awkward questions.

I wonder how the club will respond or if at all?

I also wonder if @OUSP agree with, and support @OxVox TV piece?

Divide & conquer..............one construct dare not speak against the club the other can, which in turn shows which is needed by the supporters.

Maybe not now when things are ticking along nicely but when the chips are down we will need a single, strong and independent, voice.

 

[BillyTurleys CurlyWurly]

That's my understanding from what each have informed supporters.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Think people need to be more careful with their words in the future.

 

[m]

You missed’Plastic’

It's impossible otherwise.

Who can reasonably order Plastic, Daytripper and Armchair?

It's a nightmare.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

I’m still very confused by the recent OUSP minutes in relation to this. The minutes categorically state that OxVox agreed that an away membership was the most practical way to deal with potential ticket demand. It’s there in black and white - it claims OxVox agreed with the decision. Yet the OxVox chair has now gone on television and effectively said “We don’t like the membership, it was dropped on us late doors and we feel it’s fleecing people for being loyal.” OxVox effectively labelled it a stitch-up on prime time regional news. It was a pretty big move.

The minutes claim that OxVox was represented at the July 15 meeting where away membership was discussed by Ben Heath. Did Ben agree with the scheme while the rest of OxVox do not? Are OxVox suggesting that the notes are misleading and that they in fact did not and do not agree with the scheme?

It would be good for people to get some clarity on this, because we’ve essentially got one fans’ group publishing official minutes saying one thing, and then another fans’ group going on television to say the opposite.

 

[Morris Oxford]

I’m still very confused by the recent OUSP minutes in relation to this. The minutes categorically state that OxVox agreed that an away membership was the most practical way to deal with potential ticket demand. It’s there in black and white - it claims OxVox agreed with the decision. Yet the OxVox chair has now gone on television and effectively said “We don’t like the membership, it was dropped on us late doors and we feel it’s fleecing people for being loyal.” OxVox effectively labelled it a stitch-up on prime time regional news. It was a pretty big move.

The minutes claim that OxVox was represented at the July 15 meeting where away membership was discussed by Ben Heath. Did Ben agree with the scheme while the rest of OxVox do not? Are OxVox suggesting that the notes are misleading and that they in fact did not and do not agree with the scheme?

It would be good for people to get some clarity on this, because we’ve essentially got one fans’ group publishing official minutes saying one thing, and then another fans’ group going on television to say the opposite.

I agree it is confusing.

Clarity is needed on all the points you have raised.

 

[akilham]

Agreed. Wesley has aged VERY well. I have some of what he’s been drinking!

 

[Essexyellows]

I’m still very confused by the recent OUSP minutes in relation to this. The minutes categorically state that OxVox agreed that an away membership was the most practical way to deal with potential ticket demand. It’s there in black and white - it claims OxVox agreed with the decision. Yet the OxVox chair has now gone on television and effectively said “We don’t like the membership, it was dropped on us late doors and we feel it’s fleecing people for being loyal.” OxVox effectively labelled it a stitch-up on prime time regional news. It was a pretty big move.

The minutes claim that OxVox was represented at the July 15 meeting where away membership was discussed by Ben Heath. Did Ben agree with the scheme while the rest of OxVox do not? Are OxVox suggesting that the notes are misleading and that they in fact did not and do not agree with the scheme?

It would be good for people to get some clarity on this, because we’ve essentially got one fans’ group publishing official minutes saying one thing, and then another fans’ group going on television to say the opposite.

No supporters group "agreed" irrespective of what the minutes say. the club delivered it and said this is it. That is business and they can do it.

Any "queries" in the minutes are purely to create a division between the two supporters groups.

If there was only one group, one of which seems to have a growing remit, these problems wouldn`t arise.

 

[RyanioBirdio]

No supporters group "agreed" irrespective of what the minutes say. the club delivered it and said this is it.

Then that would be quite a serious situation, if the club and / or OUSP has published minutes that claim OxVox agreed with something that they in fact objected to.

The chair of OxVox felt the need or desire to go on television to criticise the scheme, so I think this needs clarifying as it’s a massive discrepancy. Someone isn’t telling the truth.

 

[Essexyellows]

Then that would be quite a serious situation, if the club and / or OUSP has published minutes that claim OxVox agreed with something that they in fact objected to.

The chair of OxVox felt the need or desire to go on television to criticise the scheme, so I think this needs clarifying as it’s a massive discrepancy. Someone isn’t telling the truth.

Probably find that the Club delivered it as a finished article and said "Make it sound nice because we are doing it anyway".

One group says "Everything is hunkydory" because that is what they do.

The sole OxVox rep wasn`t able to say "hold on a bit" so went back to the Committee who pondered it and thought they needed a dash of clear water between the other group and themselves.