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Well didnt Reform win more than any other party in the council elections? didnt more people vote in that than the 3 by-elections?

In the previous council elections, a few years back, Reform also did well finishing first and second in most seats?

Also Reform are leading in voting intention on yougov? and have been leading for over a year.
All that may be so, but you (or one of your clones) claimed that the majority of people supported Reform. Not even YouGov, which is based on a relatively small sample size, has the Fascists at over 50%, so thankfully it's not the majority of the people at all, or even anything close to the majority
 
All that may be so, but you (or one of your clones) claimed that the majority of people supported Reform. Not even YouGov, which is based on a relatively small sample size, has the Fascists at over 50%, so thankfully it's not the majority of the people at all, or even anything close to the majority
But no one does ever have over 50% and yet they still win elections.
 
That's irrelevant to the claim that the Fascists were supported by the majority of the people. Majority = >50%
Yep a mistake was made with that wording.
 
I'll say it once more.

There is a higher proportion of sex offenders and criminals amongst the far right groups that protest migrants than amongst the migrants themselves.

But these are white sex offenders so Essex and others are happy to turn a blind eye to these unfortunate lads!!

And what mathematical gymnastics have led you to that conclusion?

You can only base it on the arrested protesters which likely represent a small percentage of people present and an even smaller proportion of society irrespective of political views.

And you can`t say with any certainty that someone who has ditched their paperwork in the Channel isn`t a criminal.

Just for clarity I have no time for "sex offenders or criminals" of any nationality or colour.......... and we have enough of our own so we certainly don`t need to import any more.
 
Reform won't win the next election. They won't even get the majority of seats. And if Farage runs off to put money before the people (which is looking increasingly likely), Reform may struggle to make any meaningful impact at all.

In most cases 35-40% of the popular vote is enough to get you elected. But we are entering very different electoral times where people are voting against the party they don't want more than for the one they do.

Last time we saw an "anyone but Tories" approach which would have killed them off if they wasn't coming from such a large base. We are now in "anyone but Reform" territory. Whether this means voting Labour (Makerfield), Greens (Gorton and Denton), SDP (Arbroath), Tories (Aberdeen) or Plydd (Welsh Assembly), the "majority" are rejecting Reform and everything they stand for.
 
And what mathematical gymnastics have led you to that conclusion?

You can only base it on the arrested protesters which likely represent a small percentage of people present and an even smaller proportion of society irrespective of political views.

And you can`t say with any certainty that someone who has ditched their paperwork in the Channel isn`t a criminal.

Just for clarity I have no time for "sex offenders or criminals" of any nationality or colour.......... and we have enough of our own so we certainly don`t need to import any more.

It's the same mathematical gymnastics that states that legal migrants or asylum seekers are a risk to women and children because of the actions of a few.

And I stand by my original statement that I'd rather have 1000 asylum seekers in my community than 1000 far right agitators and auditors.
 
And what mathematical gymnastics have led you to that conclusion?

You can only base it on the arrested protesters which likely represent a small percentage of people present and an even smaller proportion of society irrespective of political views.

And you can`t say with any certainty that someone who has ditched their paperwork in the Channel isn`t a criminal.

Just for clarity I have no time for "sex offenders or criminals" of any nationality or colour.......... and we have enough of our own so we certainly don`t need to import any more.
Exactly.
 
It's the same mathematical gymnastics that states that legal migrants or asylum seekers are a risk to women and children because of the actions of a few.

And I stand by my original statement that I'd rather have 1000 asylum seekers in my community than 1000 far right agitators and auditors.
You cant take that seriously at all.
 
And I stand by my original statement that I'd rather have 1000 asylum seekers in my community than 1000 far right agitators and auditors.
It’s so easy for that statement to fall out of your mouth in the relatively safe knowledge you’ll never have to prove it. It’s not about who you’d rather have a beer with and it’s just do-gooder fluff in my opinion.

If the closest 250/300 homes to you were emptied (not knowing for certain their beliefs/criminal history) and suddenly filled by unqualified migrant groups, you’d be concerned and feel less sure of your safety than you do today. Especially with a family.
 
It's the same mathematical gymnastics that states that legal migrants or asylum seekers are a risk to women and children because of the actions of a few.

And I stand by my original statement that I'd rather have 1000 asylum seekers in my community than 1000 far right agitators and auditors.

Well if you are Bicester way you`ll get your wish........... good luck.

And, for further clarity, I have no issue with legal migrants nor do a lot of people.

A lot of people do have an issue with undocumented people who arrive illegally to abuse the asylum system.
 
Well if you are Bicester way you`ll get your wish........... good luck.

And, for further clarity, I have no issue with legal migrants nor do a lot of people.

A lot of people do have an issue with undocumented people who arrive illegally to abuse the asylum system.
of course he doesn’t live anywhere near there over wise he would be moaning just like the residents atm funny thought the same people complaining now probably would have been all for it beforehand .
 
I have no idea of the criminal history or beliefs of those living in the 250/300 houses next to me at the moment and feel perfectly safe.
Wait until the army base in bicester is full of our over seas friends ,you might be running for cover
 
of course he doesn’t live anywhere near there over wise he would be moaning just like the residents atm funny thought the same people complaining now probably would have been all for it beforehand .

You mean the "Refugees Welcome.............. as long as its nowhere near me." Those folk?

Of course they can dress it up by saying the accommodation is "lacking facilities".. ...ah well.
 
How ironic that we left the EU due to one of many agendas pushed by the media. One of the main ones being taking back control of our boarders. Something successive governments have failed to do. Yet if we were in the EU now we’d be sending them all back to the first EU country they visited. As it stands we’ve got an even worse situation where some immigrants fail in their application in the EU and then try here. Our government can’t handle the situation and so we pay for them to be put up in hotels and even now private rental accommodation for months, years, whilst the government slowly works out if they can stay or not. But even worse if they fail we can’t send them anywhere. So they stay for even longer. It would be funny it it were not true.
 
Leftists are generally all for immigration and being compassionate towards “brown people”…until the consequences of that immigration reach their doorstep. Which is happening a lot more due to successive moronic governments.
It’s why the arguments of proud leftists should always be taken with a pinch of salt. Everything they espouse is in theory. They don’t really mean it.
Just like those on the right they’d protect themselves and their own family first, when it comes down to it. Nothing wrong with that, I just wish leftists would cut down on the performative nonsense and be honest about their priorities.
 
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