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This particular "asylum seeker" is a criminal.
Yes he is. And he should, and I assume will, face the consequences. No argument from me there.

Should he be here? No.
Maybe the authorities should get a crystal ball.

Basically, I could apply the same "logic" to any group of people - teachers; football fans; left-handed people - and declare that they "shouldn't be here" or should be locked up as a precaution, simply because I can find a person in that category who is guilty of a crime. It's illogical nonsense.

You could reasonably argue that there's a problem with policing/enforcement of asylum seekers, but that doesn't seem to be the argument you're making. You're generalising from single cases to all asylum seekers, and condemning them all because of the actions of a subset. That is unreasonable.
 
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Yes he is. And he should, and I assume will, face the consequences. No argument from me there.


Maybe the authorities should get a crystal ball.

Basically, I could apply the same "logic" to any group of people - teachers; football fans; left-handed people - and declare that they "shouldn't be here" or should be locked up as a precaution, simply because I can find a person in that category who is guilty of a crime. It's illogical nonsense.

You could reasonably argue that there's a problem with policing/enforcement of asylum seekers, but that doesn't seem to be the argument you're making. You're generalising from single cases to all asylum seekers, and condemning them all because of the actions of a subset. That is unreasonable.

He was convicted in France then came here.

The BBC report..............

"Twana Jamal was given a five-year jail sentence in France in 2016, where authorities described him as one of the most successful people smugglers ever caught.

Prosecutors said the Iraqi Kurd, aged 36 at the time, had earned up to £100,000 a week for moving illegal immigrants across the Channel.

Following a tip-off this year, we traced Jamal to the village of Blaby and witnessed him working, driving a car without a licence and apparently using a false name.

Jamal's presence in the UK raises serious concerns about whether existing border controls are effective in checking asylum seekers who have committed serious crimes overseas."

And he is far from the only one................. it happens in plain sight.

The vape shop with no customers.

The Turkish/Kurdish barbers with 2 customers a day.

The "European Mini Market" with nobody setting foot inside.

Almost all of them staying afloat on organised criminality, tax evasion, illegal sales and money laundering.

And if you can`t see it in multiple high streets across the UK then you have my sympathy.
 
GrEaT cOmE bAcK!!!!!

More sex offenders, criminals and coke heads amongst the right than in most asylum centres.
I'm just glad your now in the minority who want unlimited migration to the UK and Europe most thankfully are fed up totally and waking up.
 
GrEaT cOmE bAcK!!!!!

More sex offenders, criminals and coke heads amongst the right than in most asylum centres.

There are more "sex offenders, criminals & coke heads" amongst the general population because there are more of them.

Doesn`t make them "the right" as I`m sure you know political affiliations aren`t measured by the justice system.

There is a disproportionate amount of criminality amongst illegal arrivals.

Primarily because the majority have broken UK law in their method of arrival.
 
I'm just glad your now in the minority who want unlimited migration to the UK and Europe most thankfully are fed up totally and waking up.

Not sure I mentioned anything about unlimited migration.

Its just find it a bit rich to be told that some foreign brown men may be a risk to women and children by british white men that are a risk.
 
Not sure I mentioned anything about unlimited migration.

Its just find it a bit rich to be told that some foreign brown men may be a risk to women and children by british white men that are a risk.
Yet your the one mentioning tommy Robinson and far right groups I haven't mentioned I'm them once I only care for people who want whats best for this country not people here to do harm or cause problems which there are many.
 
There are more "sex offenders, criminals & coke heads" amongst the general population because there are more of them.

Doesn`t make them "the right" as I`m sure you know political affiliations aren`t measured by the justice system.

There is a disproportionate amount of criminality amongst illegal arrivals.

Primarily because the majority have broken UK law in their method of arrival.

40% of those arrested following the Farage (Stockport) riots had previous domestic violence offences.

The majority of those arrested following recent disturbances in Southampton had previous conviction, mainly for violence.

There are dozens of people previously associated with Britain First, Timmy Robinson, Raise the Colours etc with sex offences.

These are not the general public. They are a relatively small group of people who target the weak and vulnerable for power, control and, more recently, financial gain.

So I stand by my original statement. Those on the far right who talk of protecting women and children present a greater risk to them than the asylum seekers they are protesting against.
 
40% of those arrested following the Farage (Stockport) riots had previous domestic violence offences.

The majority of those arrested following recent disturbances in Southampton had previous conviction, mainly for violence.

There are dozens of people previously associated with Britain First, Timmy Robinson, Raise the Colours etc with sex offences.

These are not the general public. They are a relatively small group of people who target the weak and vulnerable for power, control and, more recently, financial gain.

So I stand by my original statement. Those on the far right who talk of protecting women and children present a greater risk to them than the asylum seekers they are protesting against.

You mean someone who breaks the law is likely (balance being 60/40) to have previously broken the law?
 
I'll say it once more.

There is a higher proportion of sex offenders and criminals amongst the far right groups that protest migrants than amongst the migrants themselves.

But these are white sex offenders so Essex and others are happy to turn a blind eye to these unfortunate lads!!
No, as per your previous post, there is a higher proportion of sex offenders and criminals amongst "far right" groups when considering only those who were arrested at the protests.
These people will be easier to arrest with previous convictions, because they are already known to police.
40% of those arrested following the Farage (Stockport) riots had previous domestic violence offences.

Just because white people can and are a problem, we should ignore all other problems!
 
He was convicted in France then came here.

The BBC report..............

"Twana Jamal was given a five-year jail sentence in France in 2016, where authorities described him as one of the most successful people smugglers ever caught.

Prosecutors said the Iraqi Kurd, aged 36 at the time, had earned up to £100,000 a week for moving illegal immigrants across the Channel.

Following a tip-off this year, we traced Jamal to the village of Blaby and witnessed him working, driving a car without a licence and apparently using a false name.

Jamal's presence in the UK raises serious concerns about whether existing border controls are effective in checking asylum seekers who have committed serious crimes overseas."

And he is far from the only one................. it happens in plain sight.

The vape shop with no customers.

The Turkish/Kurdish barbers with 2 customers a day.

The "European Mini Market" with nobody setting foot inside.

Almost all of them staying afloat on organised criminality, tax evasion, illegal sales and money laundering.

And if you can`t see it in multiple high streets across the UK then you have my sympathy.
What's your point? Seriously.

"Bogus asylum seekers exist."? No s**t, Sherlock.
 
Not sure I mentioned anything about unlimited migration.
They all play this silly game. You don't think all asylum seekers should be automatically deported? You must therefore be in favour of a total free-for-all and no controls on immigration.

It's so frustratingly, bone-headedly binary.
 
There are more "sex offenders, criminals & coke heads" amongst the general population because there are more of them.

Doesn`t make them "the right" as I`m sure you know political affiliations aren`t measured by the justice system.

There is a disproportionate amount of criminality amongst illegal arrivals.

Primarily because the majority have broken UK law in their method of arrival.
Wait for the bullying they can't see what's happening, but the majority of people in this country have had a enough, but they think we are right wing ,sad people
 
Not sure I mentioned anything about unlimited migration.

Its just find it a bit rich to be told that some foreign brown men may be a risk to women and children by british white men that are a risk.
Take out the Brown and White.

Careful use of words to describe a small amount of people there, i mean what about all the other people that are against foreign people that are a risk to women and children in this country?
 
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Wait for the bullying they can't see what's happening, but the majority of people in this country have had a enough, but they think we are right wing ,sad people
The majority of people? That doesn't seem to be reflected in any recent election results
 
I'll say it once more.

There is a higher proportion of sex offenders and criminals amongst the far right groups that protest migrants than amongst the migrants themselves.

But these are white sex offenders so Essex and others are happy to turn a blind eye to these unfortunate lads!!
How do you know that?

Have you actual got the quotes from Essex and the others that have said that?
 
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Reform winning the most council seats reccently?
How about any of the recent by-elections? How about the vast majority of council seats that Reform didn't win?

I'd be very surprised if there's a majority of people in this country that support Reform. I'd be checking out my emigration options if there were
 
I'll say it once more.

There is a higher proportion of sex offenders and criminals amongst the far right groups that protest migrants than amongst the migrants themselves.

But these are white sex offenders so Essex and others are happy to turn a blind eye to these unfortunate lads!!
Yes but why add to the problem by letting more unknowns in like you said we have a big enough problem already.
 
How about any of the recent by-elections? How about the vast majority of council seats that Reform didn't win?

I'd be very surprised if there's a majority of people in this country that support Reform. I'd be checking out my emigration options if there were
Well didnt Reform win more than any other party in the council elections? didnt more people vote in that than the 3 by-elections?

In the previous council elections, a few years back, Reform also did well finishing first and second in most seats?

Also Reform are leading in voting intention on yougov? and have been leading for over a year.
 
Yes but why add to the problem by letting more unknowns in like you said we have a big enough problem already.
This is a weird argument. If you take it to its logical conclusion you should be trying to reduce the population in order to reduce crime.

Zero population = zero crime. Result!
 
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