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[boogaloo]

Supply and demand. We are talking about basic economics.

The billionaires mostly love mass immigration, keeps labour cheap.

The billionaires also love us arguing amongst ourselves about immigration, because while we do that - they can keep filling their boots

 

[Londox]

The billionaires also love us arguing amongst ourselves about immigration, because while we do that - they can keep filling their boots

So in not opposing mass immigration you've played right into the billionaires hands.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

So in not opposing mass immigration you've played right into the billionaires hands.

You really do need to try and pay attention a bit more rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating the same old nonsense that you've been fed on X, GBeebies and other performative cesspits.

YOU railing against immigrants and thinking they are at the root of all your ills achieves what exactly?

Who is it exactly that you think is in favour of out of control mass migration as seen since Brexit?

Who ripped the guts out of border control in the name of "bringing down the nations credit card bill"?

Who allowed legal immigration to pretty much hit the 1 million mark?

How big a percentage drop in legal immigration have we seen since that peak?

What effect would zero immigration have on the UK?

You do seem to be susceptible to a classic distraction burglary . . . and Nige is VERY good at those . . .I suggest you pay a bit more attention in future.

And you accuse others of playing into the billionaires hands . .. sheesh

 

[Londox]

This post is so innacurate it's genuinely amusing.

You really do need to try and pay attention a bit more rather than sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating the same old nonsense that you've been fed on X, GBeebies and other performative cesspits.

It's interesting you accuse me of watching a TV channel I don't watch which has informed my opinions, when you have the opinions of almost every Guardian reader and just splutter "but... billionaires" as a response to everything we talk about.

YOU railing against immigrants and thinking they are at the root of all your ills achieves what exactly?

I've never railed against "immigrants" themselves or blamed them for my specific problems. I have no problem with a sensible amount of immigration running in the 10s of thousands not hundreds of thousands or indeed millions per year. What does you blaming all of societies ills on "billionaires" achieve.

Who is it exactly that you think is in favour of out of control mass migration as seen since Brexit?

It's really funny you think mass immigration is some kind of post-Brexit phenomenon. Several European countries, such as Germany, Sweden and France have had mass immigration (France likely to an even greater extent that us) despite being part of the EU. Freedom of movement is one of the central policies of the EU.

Year ending Jun 2013	~208,000 (ONS series)
Year ending Jun 2014	~313,000 (ONS)
Year ending Jun 2015	~336,000 (ONS)
Year ending Jun 2016	~335,000 (ONS)

This was net immigration into the UK before the Brexit vote, that's a city the size of Nottingham coming to the UK every year. That's mass, replacement-level migration.

Who ripped the guts out of border control in the name of "bringing down the nations credit card bill"?

We had extremely high levels of migration and illegal immigration issues before Brexit.

Who allowed legal immigration to pretty much hit the 1 million mark?

Well, you think billionaires and elites run the world and control the system - they allowed it.

What effect would zero immigration have on the UK?

Interesting, you make this sentence like I've ever argued for it. What I can tell you is net immigration running at over 300,000 a year for decades is utter, complete, divisise insanity.

You do seem to be susceptible to a classic distraction burglary . . . and Nige is VERY good at those . . .I suggest you pay a bit more attention in future.

Do you want me to do an IQ test of something, or do you think anyone who things mass immigration is a net negative on society is some automatic thicko who must have got their news from "gbeebies"

And you accuse others of playing into the billionaires hands . .. sheesh

You talk about billionaires like they all have the same opinions and that they are responsible for all of the world's ills yet can't get over how for others immigration is the biggest issues.

You would find you have a lot in common with billionaires like George Soros.

Let's look at some of the biggest donors to the Remain campaign:
Lord Sainsbury - net worth £600m
Sir David Harding - net worth £1.1bn
Mike Gooley - net worth £360m
Mark Coombs - net worth £1.165bn
Lloyd Dorman - net worth £720m

Now let's look at corporations who generously donated to the Remain campaign
Goldman Sachs
JP Morgan Chase
Citigroup
Morgan Stanley
Bloomberg

On many issues, you are on the same side as "the billionaires" despite you turning them into the boogeyman. You like to imply I have problems with immigrants themselves, when what I actually have a problem with is the extreme nature of mass migration, too fast, too quick and dangerously unmanaged. I've never thought immigration running in the tens of thousands is an issue, it's mass immigration I have an issue with, and this is often misrepresented.

Can you not see, that a "globalised economy" with mass amounts of cheap labour is directly beneficial to 'the rich'.

They have also fragmented our countries into peoples from many different countries and worldviews, making working class action incredibly difficult when the working class is fragmented along cultural lines.

 

[Symp59]

Translation, DEI initiatives would go.

Absolutely where we live in north Staffordshire we have schools where they speak (the children )speak over 27 different languages and they have to have translators in all the time it costs a fortune. Go to France you stay in the year below until you can speak the language

 

[Londox]

Absolutely where we live in north Staffordshire we have schools where they speak (the children )speak over 27 different languages and they have to have translators in all the time it costs a fortune. Go to France you stay in the year below until you can speak the language

The pace of the change is absolutely extraordinary and one of the only times in human history one population is being replaced by another without war.

It's got nothing to do with racism, or xenepohobia, it's just that immigration being so high is both impractical and quite dangerous for a cohesive society.

It is mostly the winners of globalisation who live in nice areas who don't care and look down at those who do complain as racist or xenephobic.

 

[Symp59]

Labour doing an amazing job ,pizza hut closing 250 restaurant, job creation at its best ,well done.

 

[SteMerritt]

Labour doing an amazing job ,pizza hut closing 250 restaurant, job creation at its best ,well done.

Yeah, closing loads of stores in the US, bloody Starmer...

 

[Londox]

To be fair the fact pizza hut is closing down is probably because it's terrible

 

[SteMerritt]

To be fair the fact pizza hut is closing down is probably because it's terrible

That was my first thought as well.

 

[Londox]

That was my first thought as well.

Probably the worst of the pizza chains.

Pizza express is acceptable and Franco Manca is surprisingly good.

To be fair to the Italian immigrants they know their food. Just wish their footballers dived less.