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Ex-Player Thread Hidde Ter Avest

I've been a bit of a broken record with ter Avest but thought he was excellent again today, especially considering he often found himself defending 2 on 1. Very rarely beaten and at times had some really good link up play, especially with BDK. Looked like a couple of proper footballers when they combined.

Should retain his shirt even when Spencer is back for now.
 
Joey said:
I've been a bit of a broken record with ter Avest but thought he was excellent again today, especially considering he often found himself defending 2 on 1. Very rarely beaten and at times had some really good link up play, especially with BDK. Looked like a couple of proper footballers when they combined.

Should retain his shirt even when Spencer is back for now.
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I agree. I would bring in Spencer for Long at this point. Hidde has rarely had a poor game for us
 
If there's ever a point where everyone is fit and healthy, I'm not sure that 5-2-3 isn't our best formation.

Something like:

Cumming
Ter Avest Spencer Helik Davies/Brown Currie/Leigh
Cam BDK
Prelec Lankshear Dembele

Just feels like that formation allows us to get all of our best players into the team in positions that suit them well,
 
tonyw said:
If there's ever a point where everyone is fit and healthy, I'm not sure that 5-2-3 isn't our best formation.

Something like:

Cumming
Ter Avest Spencer Helik Davies/Brown Currie/Leigh
Cam BDK
Prelec Lankshear Dembele

Just feels like that formation allows us to get all of our best players into the team in positions that suit them well,
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But we always look rubbish with five at the back! I’m sure it was no coincidence we were better today in our usual formation
 
tonyw said:
If there's ever a point where everyone is fit and healthy, I'm not sure that 5-2-3 isn't our best formation.

Something like:

Cumming
Ter Avest Spencer Helik Davies/Brown Currie/Leigh
Cam BDK
Prelec Lankshear Dembele

Just feels like that formation allows us to get all of our best players into the team in positions that suit them well,
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Is Prelec a winger? Always thought he was an out and out striker. Mills was poor today, but otherwise has been good and would be my pick to start right wing, especially if he's got Lankshear to cross to.

Don't hate the rest of that team though, a lot of natural balance in it, at last, and BdK looks such a step up on Vaulks that we could maybe get away with 2 in there, depending on the opposition.
 
Ter Avest has probably been underused for me, I know he has had the injuries but he is probably the best full back at the club, it should be his place to lose after today.

Don’t want to see wing backs though, we can’t play it, we sit deeper with it but still leave gaps which the opposition walk through.
 
Osei Yaw said:
Is Prelec a winger? Always thought he was an out and out striker. Mills was poor today, but otherwise has been good and would be my pick to start right wing, especially if he's got Lankshear to cross to.

Don't hate the rest of that team though, a lot of natural balance in it, at last, and BdK looks such a step up on Vaulks that we could maybe get away with 2 in there, depending on the opposition.
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If you play 5-2-3, you don't want an out-and-out winger in your front three - you want two guys that can play off Lankshear and find space, often playing pretty narrow to allow the wingbacks to storm past them and provide the real width. My sense is that Prelec can do that, and that we're going to want him and Lankshear on the pitch if we can more often than not.

If you play the now traditional 4-2-3-1, then I think you do need those wide players in the three to play pretty wide because the two full backs have a lot more defensive responsibilities and can't be bombing past all game long. From what I've seen and heard, then I don't think that suits Prelec as much. Maybe you can play him in the #10, but then you're starting to come close to the way we played against Pompey and first half against Hull which was an epic disaster.

For me, if you stick to 4-2-3-1 then you basically have to chose between Spencer & Ter Avest, and between Lankshear & Prelec, whilst starting two inferior players in their stead because they fit the formation better.

Course this is all pending who we bring in in the next couple of days. If we do sign a top class winger and/or #10 (or Luke Harris turns out to be one) then everything I said becomes moot.......
 
holdsteady said:
Ter Avest has probably been underused for me, I know he has had the injuries but he is probably the best full back at the club, it should be his place to lose after today.

Don’t want to see wing backs though, we can’t play it, we sit deeper with it but still leave gaps which the opposition walk through.
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Quite agree - never understood how Kioso got the gig over him so often last season
 
Was name-checked in a post match Rowett interview alongside Brown and Davies as a player who will come back into the mix when he returns from injury.

No details on how bad it is, but still very much in the manager's plans.
 
unification said:
Any shouts on when we can expect HTA back?

With Spencer out for some time, we could do with an option there to challenge Long and to offer something different.

The guy has never had much of a run of games since he has arrived but has shown that he’s capable.
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First training on the grass this week
 
Assuming he’s now fit? As he technically is very good, could we try him in MF - we don’t have many options currently in squad,but could he work with a three with Cam and BDK, more mobile than Vaulks and can defend plus can pick out a pass?
 
southcoastyellow said:
Assuming he’s now fit? As he technically is very good, could we try him in MF - we don’t have many options currently in squad,but could he work with a three with Cam and BDK, more mobile than Vaulks and can defend plus can pick out a pass?
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We are crying out for pace at the back. He has to come in for Sam Long as soon as he is fit.
 
southcoastyellow said:
Assuming he’s now fit? As he technically is very good, could we try him in MF - we don’t have many options currently in squad,but could he work with a three with Cam and BDK, more mobile than Vaulks and can defend plus can pick out a pass?
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Funnily enough, before he got injured I was thinking Spencer could be a temporary solution at the base of midfield until January, just to give us more mobility alongside his natural defensive instincts, plus he's decent on the ball. It was glaringly obvious on saturday at West Brom how many second balls we don't pick up in midfield, part of which is definitely down to a lack of athleticism in that area of the pitch.
 
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