- 7 Dec 2017
Nice to be English ?
yes, it definitely shouldShould be a proper national holiday with day-off as standard.
Hiya Danny. There is no law to stop anyone flying the cross of St George, so your assertion that it 'would never be allowed' is a tad incorrect.
Who are this 'PC brigade', by the way, and why do you imagine that they rule this country, and that any laws are theirs? So many questions. And I think we've already established that any laws and the flying of the cross of St George are not related anyway.
A rather confusing post, even by your standards.
Once the flag has been reclaimed from right-wing nationalists, such as your good self, it will be everywhere. But why would a business decorate itself with with the cross of St George, when it's associated with the likes of you?
Brief retrospective look of the Oxford input into St George replacing St Edmund as England's patron saint, and err flag up, some of the many England ( and Oxford-shire) official banners from over the centuries. As it was 'one of our own' , Richard The Lionheart - born in Beaumont Palace Oxford- who's crusading 'firm', the Knights Templar ( corgi registered heating engineers of their time) who it was that changed the patron saint of England from St Edmund ( 9th century King of East Anglia), to a St George, a Christian martyr, who never set foot in our green and pleasant land. Georgios the Turk's religious martyrdom led to him as St George being adopted as patron saint by quite a few counties, as well as which Georgia in the Balkans took its countries name from St George. National flag of England, until St Edmund was given the elbow and St Georges cross was adopted was this .....View attachment 458
Then there is historically the Saxon (King of Wessex flag of a golden lion on a red background)- Another 'one of our own' Alfred the Great , born in Wallingford, the only King to be named 'The Great', who was the first King of a united England ( a territory that excluded most of Yorkshire which was under Danish rule , at the time known as Dane law, Alfred the Greats flag ......View attachment 459
which, over time evolved into the plantagenet three lions (adapted for England football team shirt), again it was Oxford boy, Richard the Lionheart who introduced the three gold lions on a red background as his emblem/ flag .....View attachment 460co-opting or incorporating Fleur de Lys as part of Englands coat of arms and one of many varients of the Royal Standard yet again has links to our own Richard the Lionhearts family and a time when various provinces of France were under English rule , also Fleur de Lys has a link to 1066 (and all that).... English Royal Standard......View attachment 462then theres the Saint Georges Cross/ St Georges flag adopted by Richard the Lionhearts elite firm of Knights Templar ( ever wondered what the origins of Cowley , or as it was TEMPLE Cowley are, as an aside? ).....View attachment 463
I've purposely omitted the varients to the Union flag and the United Kingdom royal standard as although England is 'part' of the flags make up, they are none of them exclusively England flags.... though there are at least 4 if not more evolutionary varients to the Union flag into its most recent (1770's) incarnation which is used 'today'
Breaking it down to a more local overview St Friedswides (patron saint of Oxford) flag was the first flag for Oxfordshire ......View attachment 464
as of last year 2017, this is now the county flag of Oxfordshire......View attachment 466
When all is said and done THIS is the flag I prefer .....View attachment 467
Question for @dannyc , which England ,( and for that matter Oxford) flag would be the one you'd prefer to be flying ' everywhere', would it be Georgios the Turk's cross or another of the many options?
Well I lean to the left, but it doesn't mean we can't agree on some things. I'd be in favour of abolishing the Houses of Lords and Commons and replacing them with an English Parliament and British Senate. As a nationalist is that something you'd want to see? What things would you like to see done?im a nationalist not on the left or the right thank you very much im guessing you lean to either side .
apologies @m .... did think I was slowly 'getting' how to stop this damn smartphone from how to , err out-smart me with its occasional (&random!) predictive text.... seems I got outsmarted again! .... rectified to how it should be now, to read Wantage!Alfred born in Wallingford?
News to us Wantage types!
a english parlement would be good yesWell I lean to the left, but it doesn't mean we can't agree on some things. I'd be in favour of abolishing the Houses of Lords and Commons and replacing them with an English Parliament and British Senate. As a nationalist is that something you'd want to see? What things would you like to see done?
So what are your 'nationalist' beliefs then, Danny? I assume you're proud to be British, and particularly proud to be English. Who do you consider to be British? What are the credentials of a truly 'British' person?
apologies @m .... did think I was slowly 'getting' how to stop this damn smartphone from how to , err out-smart me with its occasional (&random!) predictive text.... seems I got outsmarted again! .... rectified to how it should be now, to read Wantage!
as an aside, King Alfred's statue in Wantage, does it currently have a sword (or axe)? ...or has it been 'removed' yet again, mysteriously?
proud to be english yes not british thought its just a union people seem to forget .