National Politics 🟢 The Green Party

[West Oxon U’s]

Watch Carla Denyer fly into a hissy fit after being skewered by Mahmood:

 

[Stranger]

Watch Carla Denyer fly into a hissy fit after being skewered by Mahmood:

More a case of Mahmood trying to justify the unjustifiable. Being called a hypocrite by a hypocrite, I'm not surprised Denyer's angry

 

[Mateo Corbo's Tackle]

All lazy journalism - “opposes” is now the same as “has genuine concerns over the safety of”, apparently.

 

[Mateo Corbo's Tackle]

More a case of Mahmood trying to justify the unjustifiable. Being called a hypocrite by a hypocrite, I'm not surprised Denyer's angry

Aha, the good old unnecessary diatribe in action again. Boring.

“Insecure” and “boring” are two of the more benign words I could use to describe Mahmood

 

[West Oxon U’s]

We need to talk about Zack

 

[chuckbert]

We need to talk about Zack

We need to talk about Zia

'Noses out of joint': Colleagues reveal what Reform's Zia Yusuf is like to work for

Some who have worked with the former Reform chairman call him a "powerhouse", but others describe a chaotic workplace.

www.bbc.com

 

[chuckbert]

We need to talk about Zack

 

[Carpy]

We need to talk about Zia

'Noses out of joint': Colleagues reveal what Reform's Zia Yusuf is like to work for

Some who have worked with the former Reform chairman call him a "powerhouse", but others describe a chaotic workplace.

www.bbc.com

I think every CEO or successful business person will have some saying how difficult they were to work with. Steve Jobs was an a*****e, Elon Musk is hugely demanding, Larry Ellison who a lot on here have been getting frothy over is well known for being extremely outspoken and demanding of those that work for him.

It's not the only way of building a successful business, but it's common enough to suggest that while for some individuals it's not an environment they would want to work in, it does help deliver results.

 

[boogaloo]

The problem with Reform in particular are that people are too thick to dig a bit deeper into their claims.

"Green Party are going to legalize all drugs"

The party has supported decriminalizing the possession of certain drugs and legalizing others, with a specific focus on cannabis. So heroin, crack cocaine etc will still remain criminalized.

"Zack Polanski claims he can hypnotise people into having bigger boobs"

This was a Sun report (that in itself should set off alarm bells), and he was misquoted and has since admitted he was a bit naive in agreeing to the interview. Plus this was before he was a politician. A complete non-story. Also, it's strange how people latch on to this yet have no issue with leaders singing Hitler youth songs/gas the jews.

"The Green Party want to get rid of a Nuclear weapons"

This is the long-term aim, but I doubt they will do anything reckless. Their plan is to try and encourage other world leader's to follow suit. Will it work? Maybe if there's enough International pressure. Plus, key point - Zack Polanski wants the UK to still remain a member of NATO, which is significant. Trident is costly and expensive, and amounts to nothing more than metaphoric cock extension.

"The Green Party want open borders"

Again, not quite. To be fair, I agree their policies are a bit too lax for liking, but opening up safe routes for asylum seekers to claim asylum is a good thing, as is stopping the current demonisation of people in boats.

 

[Londox]

 

[EastSussexOx]

As a green party supporter, I was pretty pissed off with this comment and I hope Zack apologizes. Not least as is comes across as condescending to care workers, which I sure is not his intention given that his partner is a care worker.

I think what he was trying to imply was that a key reason why immigration figures are high is that we have an aging and unhealthy population so the demand for social care work is higher than ever but it is poorly paid and doesn't always have the nicest working conditions, yet does demand specific skills so not everyone out of work ould do it, so we have been unable to fill vacancies domestically, and situations like this (alongside international students, and NHS workers) have driven the high levels of immigration, rather than people coming in boats which seems to dominate the discussion. But it was very poorly phrased.

Albeit he barely got a chance to speak all night, with constant interruptions and deliberate misrepresentations of Green party vision (world without borders) as green party policy (which is actually a managed immigration system, not dissimilar to the other parties, except that people are allowed to work while their asylum claims are processed, which would be better for our economy, there chances to integrate if the do get asylum and we would spend less on welfare for them).

 

[West Oxon U’s]

David Paulden aka Zack Polanski is a deeply unserious ‘politician’

 

[chuckbert]

David Paulden aka Zack Polanski is a deeply unserious ‘politician’

More of the media beat-up. Someone must be very worried about Polanski’s potential.

 

[West Oxon U’s]

 

[Londox]

More of the media beat-up. Someone must be very worried about Polanski’s potential.

Media criticise Farage: "quite right, the man's an idiot"
Media criticise classist Zak "they're scared of his powerful potential!"

 

[chuckbert]

Media criticise Farage: "quite right, the man's an idiot"
Media criticise classist Zak "they're scared of his powerful potential!"

Who’s calling Farage an idiot. Grifter and snake oil salesman, surely.

 

[Londox]

Who’s calling Farage an idiot. Grifter and snake oil salesman, surely.

Your guy Zak claimed he could increase womens breast sizes with his mind. Talk about grifter

 

[chuckbert]

Your guy Zak claimed he could increase womens breast sizes with his mind. Talk about grifter

We’ve been through all this already.

 

[Foley]

More of the media beat-up. Someone must be very worried about Polanski’s potential.

I like Polanski.
But... when being interviewed by Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart, I must admit thay I was shocked. Naive and he didn't have a grasp of basic economic facts.
He didn't come across as a serious politician. More of a populist ( on the same level as Johnson, Farage albeit from the left)

 

[Londox]

I like Polanski.
But... when being interviewed by Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart, I must admit thay I was shocked. Naive and he didn't have a grasp of basic economic facts.
He didn't come across as a serious politician. More of a populist ( on the same level as Johnson, Farage albeit from the left)

The extent of Polanski's economics is... I'll ask my pal Gary Stevenson what to say.

 

[boogaloo]

The extent of Polanski's economics is... I'll ask my pal Gary Stevenson what to say.

As opposed to ask my pal Vlad what to say?

 

[Londox]

As opposed to ask my pal Vlad what to say?

That was proven was it

If Nigel ever claimed he could increase the size of women's boobs you'd be having a field day. Your big hope Zaks a weirdo!

 

[Foley]

As opposed to ask my pal Vlad what to say?

Well indeed, but shouldn't we expect more serious politicians than Farage, Johnson AND Polanski?

 

[bazzer9461]

Well indeed, but shouldn't we expect more serious politicians than Farage, Johnson AND Polanski?

Polanski?

 

[Ox4Eva]

Deranged far left nut jobs!

 

[holdsteady]

As opposed to ask my pal Vlad what to say?

Remember when you only came on here to argue with Baldy and junior over who was better out of Man U or your team Arsenal? Now you only come on here to argue about politics. How the f**k does a non Oxford United fan end up on an Oxford United forum arguing about non Oxford United related subjects?

 

[Londox]

Deranged far left nut jobs!

That's no way to speak about Sheik and QR

 

[chuckbert]

Remember when you only came on here to argue with Baldy and junior over who was better out of Man U or your team Arsenal? Now you only come on here to argue about politics. How the f**k does a non Oxford United fan end up on an Oxford United forum arguing about non Oxford United related subjects?

The most irritating thing about politics arguments on here is all the folks who treat it like a team sport (“the left”, “your man Polanski” etc). The best part is getting to have arguments that you wouldn’t have in real life because the diversity of football fans is great. While the arguments can get a bit divisive there are few places where you can have pretty respectful discussions with people of such different views.
COYY.

 

[EastSussexOx]

Completely agree, it is sad that respectful discussions are out of the window when it comes to politics, particularly as most people, whatever their political leanings, only care about politics, because they see things that aren't great and want to make things better. I am on the left politically, but I completely understand that many Reform voters see rising cost of living, falling living standards and crumbling infrastructure and want things to get better and think that Reform have solutions that will make those things better. Just as I see those same things and think that we need creative ways to tackle wealth inequality through progressive taxation particularly but not exclusive on wealth and assets to invest in public services, housing, infrastructure, and nationalise industries making large profits while charging us a fortune and Greens have the closest policy programme to those values.

There are many people on both sides of the argument who can construct a strong economic argument for why either position is valid and I don't think anyone is an idiot or bad person for supporting one side or the other.

But the way arguments, political positions and even what comes out of politicians mouths, get cut up, spun and packaged so that the opposition is demonised and othered does no one any favours and ends up dividing us when we do have more in common.

Thank good for football, where we can all agree that we hate Swindon, and were never going to get another penalty.

 

[Londox]

The most irritating thing about politics arguments on here is all the folks who treat it like a team sport (“the left”, “your man Polanski” etc). The best part is getting to have arguments that you wouldn’t have in real life because the diversity of football fans is great. While the arguments can get a bit divisive there are few places where you can have pretty respectful discussions with people of such different views.
COYY.

The reason I said your man Polanski is somebody directly said "your man Farage" to me.

Don't act like posters don't always say "the right" fascists etc all the time because they do. The fact you've used two examples right wing posters would say makes your post look disingenuous