National Politics 🟢 The Green Party

Under The Cuckoo Lane said:
I have a vote this Thursday for Deddington Ward CDC.
Which party would be best for OUFC?

Lib Dems
Green
Conservative
Reform
Labour
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It's too late for any local councillor to impact the stadium situation in any way. Vote for the party that best aligns with your national view, or the person who you think will serve you best locally.
 
Essexyellows said:
Well done. Got there in the end. And you suggest others "miss the point". 🤷‍♂️

By all means investigate the police........... when there is something to investigate.

In this case there is nothing to even think twice about.
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Another miss quote…. I don’t think I ever said anything different but I don’t suppose you notices over your superiority complex.
 
There’s some very disingenuous posts earlier in this thread making up excuses for Polanksi’s disgraceful retweet of the ridiculous criticism of the police.

Not one person that I’ve seen who was annoyed by him doing that thought the police shouldn’t be held to a high standard, so repeating that ad nauseam is a total straw man. The point is that a politician publicly criticising officers who’ve just risked their lives to save the public isn’t someone that I want in office (that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be held to high standards or investigated - but social media isn’t the place to do it, it’s not his job and what he reposted was wrong)
 
Isle of Wight Yellow said:
There’s some very disingenuous posts earlier in this thread making up excuses for Polanksi’s disgraceful retweet of the ridiculous criticism of the police.

Not one person that I’ve seen who was annoyed by him doing that thought the police shouldn’t be held to a high standard, so repeating that ad nauseam is a total straw man. The point is that a politician publicly criticising officers who’ve just risked their lives to save the public isn’t someone that I want in office (that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be held to high standards or investigated - but social media isn’t the place to do it, it’s not his job and what he reposted was wrong)
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Farage does his fair share of criticising the police (not retweeting). Is that a problem?
 
The Green candidate for Headington came to my door today. When I asked him for his views on our proposed new stadium he didn't want to talk about it. I asked him if he knew Ian Middleton and after stalling stating he had heard of him. I told him the Greens will never get my vote as they are trying to kill our football club but he has nothing to do with that as he is standing for Oxford City not Kidlington.
He believes an alternate solution was available and yes it was stay where we are. When I mentioned we had exhausted that years ago he said it could still be done. Asked if any development on Green Belt land is acceptable he gave the only if sustainable, economically viable and beneficial to the community response. He had clearly no idea of the triangles details and the only thing he could mention was some solar panels on the roof.
BTW when he told me he was a football fan he revealed he was an AFC Wimbledon fan, however had been to see OUFC, so I hoped he enjoyed it as we could go the same way as Wimbledon without a stadium. When he was leaving he gave the "you are entitled to your opinion line" which is a very condescending thing to say. IM has tainted their image across the county.
 
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Dogbone said:
The Green candidate for Headington came to my door today. When I asked him for his views on our proposed new stadium he didn't want to talk about it. I asked him if he knew Ian Middleton and after stalling stating he had heard of him. I told him the Greens will never get my vote as they are trying to kill our football club but he has nothing to do with that as he is standing for Oxford City not Kidlington.
He believes an alternate solution was available and yes it was stay where we are. When I mentioned we had exhausted that years ago he said it could still be done. Asked if any development on Green Belt land is acceptable he gave the only if sustainable, economically viable and beneficial to the community response. He had clearly no idea of the triangles details and the only thing he could mention was some solar panels on the roof.
BTW when he told me he was a football fan he revealed he was an AFC Wimbledon fan, however had been to see OUFC, so I hoped he enjoyed it as we could go the same way as Wimbledon without a stadium. When he was leaving he gave the "you are entitled to your opinion line" which is a very condescending thing to say. IM has tainted their image across the county.
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How terrible that he was canvassing for your vote yet didn’t want to talk about a local hot topic.

The amount of nimby local politicians that support clubs outside of Oxfordshire but are happy to kill our club is a disgrace.
 
chuckbert said:
Farage does his fair share of criticising the police (not retweeting). Is that a problem?
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I can honestly say if Farage did the same thing I’d have exactly the same reaction. I don’t especially like either man or either party, but I’m not sure what Nigel Farage (or, say, Keir Starmer) may or may not do have to do with something which has specifically happened…
 
Dogbone said:
The Green candidate for Headington came to my door today. When I asked him for his views on our proposed new stadium he didn't want to talk about it. I asked him if he knew Ian Middleton and after stalling stating he had heard of him. I told him the Greens will never get my vote as they are trying to kill our football club but he has nothing to do with that as he is standing for Oxford City not Kidlington.
He believes an alternate solution was available and yes it was stay where we are. When I mentioned we had exhausted that years ago he said it could still be done. Asked if any development on Green Belt land is acceptable he gave the only if sustainable, economically viable and beneficial to the community response. He had clearly no idea of the triangles details and the only thing he could mention was some solar panels on the roof.
BTW when he told me he was a football fan he revealed he was an AFC Wimbledon fan, however had been to see OUFC, so I hoped he enjoyed it as we could go the same way as Wimbledon without a stadium. When he was leaving he gave the "you are entitled to your opinion line" which is a very condescending thing to say. IM has tainted their image across the county.
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Interesting and thanks for sharing.

Not at all surprising though.
 
Dogbone said:
The Green candidate for Headington came to my door today. When I asked him for his views on our proposed new stadium he didn't want to talk about it. I asked him if he knew Ian Middleton and after stalling stating he had heard of him. I told him the Greens will never get my vote as they are trying to kill our football club but he has nothing to do with that as he is standing for Oxford City not Kidlington.
He believes an alternate solution was available and yes it was stay where we are. When I mentioned we had exhausted that years ago he said it could still be done. Asked if any development on Green Belt land is acceptable he gave the only if sustainable, economically viable and beneficial to the community response. He had clearly no idea of the triangles details and the only thing he could mention was some solar panels on the roof.
BTW when he told me he was a football fan he revealed he was an AFC Wimbledon fan, however had been to see OUFC, so I hoped he enjoyed it as we could go the same way as Wimbledon without a stadium. When he was leaving he gave the "you are entitled to your opinion line" which is a very condescending thing to say. IM has tainted their image across the county.
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I guess I can understand not talking about something happening outside of the area he is running for that has little to do with that area; it is just a local election so I wouldn't expect/need them to have an informed view about other patches
 
Dogbone said:
The Green candidate for Headington came to my door today. When I asked him for his views on our proposed new stadium he didn't want to talk about it. I asked him if he knew Ian Middleton and after stalling stating he had heard of him. I told him the Greens will never get my vote as they are trying to kill our football club but he has nothing to do with that as he is standing for Oxford City not Kidlington.
He believes an alternate solution was available and yes it was stay where we are. When I mentioned we had exhausted that years ago he said it could still be done. Asked if any development on Green Belt land is acceptable he gave the only if sustainable, economically viable and beneficial to the community response. He had clearly no idea of the triangles details and the only thing he could mention was some solar panels on the roof.
BTW when he told me he was a football fan he revealed he was an AFC Wimbledon fan, however had been to see OUFC, so I hoped he enjoyed it as we could go the same way as Wimbledon without a stadium. When he was leaving he gave the "you are entitled to your opinion line" which is a very condescending thing to say. IM has tainted their image across the county.
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I call bullshit on him having only heard of Ian Middleton. Considering IM, for all of our criticism of him, is a prominent Green Party Councillor/OCC Party Leader in the county. There aren't that many Green Party politicians in Oxfordshire that they'd be able to avoid IM; especially with him constantly getting his mug in the local paper/media and standing for Parliament.
 
Mojofilter said:
I guess I can understand not talking about something happening outside of the area he is running for that has little to do with that area; it is just a local election so I wouldn't expect/need them to have an informed view about other patches
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Although quite a hard thing to ignore considering the coverage locally and its prominence along with other developments around there. And a subject that is clearly affecting the vote in the area with OUFC supporters living there.
 
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Isle of Wight Yellow said:
There’s some very disingenuous posts earlier in this thread making up excuses for Polanksi’s disgraceful retweet of the ridiculous criticism of the police.

Not one person that I’ve seen who was annoyed by him doing that thought the police shouldn’t be held to a high standard, so repeating that ad nauseam is a total straw man. The point is that a politician publicly criticising officers who’ve just risked their lives to save the public isn’t someone that I want in office (that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be held to high standards or investigated - but social media isn’t the place to do it, it’s not his job and what he reposted was wrong)
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I mentioned it 3 times , twice explaining that in every situation they should be held to a standard and was told the following, both suggesting that standards didn’t need to be met

“No need for even thinking about standards”
“Go and volunteer buddy, love to see your reaction when faced with some lunatic stabbing people.”

After my third post I had this response
“In this case there is nothing to even think twice about.”

So you can call it a straw man if you like but it was repeated because it was denied…. By 2 different posters on 3 different occasions.

The straw man is the leader that has accepted £5m personally and £9m for his political party.
 
Mojofilter said:
I guess I can understand not talking about something happening outside of the area he is running for that has little to do with that area; it is just a local election so I wouldn't expect/need them to have an informed view about other patches
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That depends, was he willing to chat about other things from outside of the area? National matters etc? In which case he was just trying to hide the fact that he opposes the new ground by not talking about.
 
Marked Ox said:
Although quite a hard thing to ignore considering the coverage locally and its prominence along with other developments around there. And a subject that is clearly affecting the vote in the area with OUFC supporters living there.
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Oh yeah - hard to ignore, but I can understand not being particularly well briefed on it. Bit like asking someone in Woodstock about Eynsham, you'd expect them to know a bit but not necessarily much detail
 
Hope they are better than the Labour liars. Do you remember Labour had a meeting with the big fuel companies asking not to make motorists the subject of over profits because of the Iran war .
So B P !announced that the first three months of this year they made a three fold profit
 
Mojofilter said:
I guess I can understand not talking about something happening outside of the area he is running for that has little to do with that area; it is just a local election so I wouldn't expect/need them to have an informed view about other patches
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He did say his remit was in the City area not outside and to his credit he did stay and listen to me vent for a while although he stuck to the solution can be found in staying where we are line. I left him in no doubt as the negative effect IM was having on the Green Party in seats in Oxford City and beyond.
 
Digby said:
Hope they are better than the Labour liars. Do you remember Labour had a meeting with the big fuel companies asking not to make motorists the subject of over profits because of the Iran war .
So B P !announced that the first three months of this year they made a three fold profit
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BP's profits are from the increase in the Oil price, and the trading from it, which is set by the market which has obviously gone nuts varying wildly. Their production hasn't been affected as much by the situation in the Gulf as it is mostly in North America. The UK Govt, and therefore Labour, do not control the market rates for Crude Oil.

The price the motorist is paying for fuel isn't funding that level of increase if it is funding any increase.

If you want to blame somebody then the only ones to blame are Trump and Netanyahu for kicking this war off.
 
Had a Green knock the other week, explained how I’m anti LTN’s.

Her reply, which was correct: LTN’s are County council, this is City Council.

But when Mrs NSB mentioned the need for a safe road crossing she seemed to be all for it… but surely that a County Coucnil matter!
 
Northstandboy said:
Had a Green knock the other week, explained how I’m anti LTN’s.

Her reply, which was correct: LTN’s are County council, this is City Council.

But when Mrs NSB mentioned the need for a safe road crossing she seemed to be all for it… but surely that a County Coucnil matter!
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Doesn't mean she can't agree with it, does it?
 
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