National Politics 🟢 The Green Party

[Scotchegg]

The point that Polanski made about the difference between crime and the fear of crime is perfectly valid.

One house on a street of 100 is broken into. You have one actual victim but 99 others that share the fear of that crime. All feelings are valid but you have to deal with them differently.

There's no doubt that there has been a rise in antisemitism, and we have seen this borne out in some recent offences. But there has also been a rise in anti-islam beliefs and offences against Muslims.

It's not unreasonable to then say that we need to do more to stop the offending (against all) and the intolerance that raises the tensions and increases the fears of all. In fact, any other view point would be far more bizarre in my view.

Its also not unreasonable to want our police to be held to the highest standard. The law allows for reasonable force to be used, and when someone has used a knife to attack others, the use of force used to stop them can justifiably be higher. But kicking someone in the head after they've been subdued with a taser could be seen as excessive and it's not unreasonable that this should be reviewed, if only to exonerate those involved.

Nothing raised shows any symptom for terrorists either at the time or since, and the suggestion is ridiculous.

But sadly those who draw these conclusions do so because of their bias and ignorance.

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

We are calling this man a lunatic for saying that the police should be held to a standard, that we should ensure the police act within the law at all times.

If you think he is wrong for suggesting that, then shame on you.

The police in every situation should be held to a standard without exception.

 

[Essexyellows]

We are calling this man a lunatic for saying that the police should be held to a standard, that we should ensure the police act within the law at all times.

If you think he is wrong for suggesting that, then shame on you.

The police in every situation should be held to a standard without exception.

They did what they had to do in a very high pressure situation.

No need for even thinking about standards in this situation, there are freely available videos including the bodycam which shows an armed man who has already stabbed people moving aggressively towards them.

He is then tasered, still moving on the ground and still armed, they are then trying to disarm him and nobody reading this is going to get within stabbing distance. They had to.

They deserve an award not an inquiry or some politician playing the "suggesting it was bad policing" card.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

Wow, speechless:



For those not on X, here's the rest of it.

 

[Boris]

Wow, speechless:



For those not on X, here's the rest of it.

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Reform starting to show their true colours

 

[Morris Oxford]

Polanski gets the attention and publicity he craves.

Whether you’re far left, far right, national or local it’s what populist politicians do.

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

They did what they had to do in a very high pressure situation.

No need for even thinking about standards in this situation, there are freely available videos including the bodycam which shows an armed man who has already stabbed people moving aggressively towards them.

He is then tasered, still moving on the ground and still armed, they are then trying to disarm him and nobody reading this is going to get within stabbing distance. They had to.

They deserve an award not an inquiry or some politician playing the "suggesting it was bad policing" card.

Shame on you.

The police should be held to a high standard in every situation. If they acted correctly or not in this situation is utterly irrelevant. On every test in every situation they should meet the standards expected of them, and their standards should not drop depending on the adversary.

As is generally the case with you the point is missed spectacularly because of your raging desire to defend the indefensible.

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

Reform starting to show their true colours

Starting?????
Trying to scare people into voting for them by creating a bogie man then saying if you don’t vote for us the bogie man is coming to get you.

Properly sick politics from a disgustingly disgraceful political movement.

 

[Toe knee]

Labours loony left have all jumped ship to join the weirdo Greens. What a mess we're in
All the Enoch Powell Torries have jumped ship to Reform same s**t different parties

 

[Matty Greens Left Boot]

Wow, speechless:



For those not on X, here's the rest of it.

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Excellent those who are pro immigration should suffer the consequences. A perfectly sensible policy

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

And sadly the middle ground are wringing their hands and saying it’s terrible isn’t it!

I detest the far left almost as much as the far right. Neither is there for the rights of the majority and sadly I think we will see what this means.

Mass detention camps in the UK openly discussed as an option for some “final solution” to the “immigrant problem” placed where those who haven’t chosen us live. No parallels to 1930s Germany there.

It seems the left alternative is a warm welcome and employment to anyone that fancies coming here.

Neither of which is very palatable to most of us.

 

[Carpy]

We are calling this man a lunatic for saying that the police should be held to a standard, that we should ensure the police act within the law at all times.

If you think he is wrong for suggesting that, then shame on you.

The police in every situation should be held to a standard without exception.

Go and volunteer buddy, love to see your reaction when faced with some lunatic stabbing people.

Special Constable (Volunteer Police Officer) - Thames Valley Police

Title: Special Constable (Volunteer Police Officer). Location: Abingdon, Amersham, Aylesbury, Banbury, Bicester, Bracknell, Didcot, High Wycombe, Loddon Valley, Maidenhead, Milton Keynes, Newbury, Oxford, Reading, Slough, Witney. Location - Other: . Closing Date: . Salary: Voluntary Role

thamesvalleypolice.tal.net

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

Excellent those who are pro immigration should suffer the consequences. A perfectly sensible policy

So hope you live in a loonie left part of the world so the bogie man can move in next door to you!!

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

Go and volunteer buddy, love to see your reaction when faced with some lunatic stabbing people.

Special Constable (Volunteer Police Officer) - Thames Valley Police

Title: Special Constable (Volunteer Police Officer). Location: Abingdon, Amersham, Aylesbury, Banbury, Bicester, Bracknell, Didcot, High Wycombe, Loddon Valley, Maidenhead, Milton Keynes, Newbury, Oxford, Reading, Slough, Witney. Location - Other: . Closing Date: . Salary: Voluntary Role

thamesvalleypolice.tal.net

What?

Are you suggesting it’s ok for the police to act as they wish ?

I’m not saying they did wrong I’m saying they have to live up to a standard. And if it looks severe it should be investigated and proven that they acted properly.


If you can’t understand that, something is seriously wrong.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

What?

Are you suggesting it’s ok for the police to act as they wish ?

I’m not saying they did wrong I’m saying they have to live up to a standard. And if it looks severe it should be investigated and proven that they acted properly.


If you can’t understand that, something is seriously wrong.

Internet "experts" sitting in judgement about what "reasonable force" looks like.

Absolute state of it.

 

[Carpy]

What?

Are you suggesting it’s ok for the police to act as they wish ?

I’m not saying they did wrong I’m saying they have to live up to a standard. And if it looks severe it should be investigated and proven that they acted properly.


If you can’t understand that, something is seriously wrong.

He didn't ask for an investigation though did he? He judged and criticised their actions from behind his keyboard, the guy is a little weasel. All police officers should be held to a standard, but by people that have the slightest clue what it takes to actually make policing decisions in those split seconds.

 

[Orkney Islands Yellow]

The irony of this ad:

 

[holdsteady]

We are calling this man a lunatic for saying that the police should be held to a standard, that we should ensure the police act within the law at all times.

If you think he is wrong for suggesting that, then shame on you.

The police in every situation should be held to a standard without exception.

It’s the standard they should be held to that’s the problem though and whose life they prioritise? They were in an incredibly tough situation and personally I would rather they prioritise the safety of potential victims and themselves over the person with the weapon attacking innocent people.

 

[Chris on a Bike]

He didn't ask for an investigation though did he? He judged and criticised their actions from behind his keyboard, the guy is a little weasel. All police officers should be held to a standard, but by people that have the slightest clue what it takes to actually make policing decisions in those split seconds.

But they get the IPCC instead!

 

[Chris on a Bike]

To Scotch Egg, can you confirm what you mean by reacting to posts with the blue bucket (bargain bucket) emoji? Genuine question as I don't understand the context

 

[Scotchegg]

To Scotch Egg, can you confirm what you mean by reacting to posts with the blue bucket (bargain bucket) emoji? Genuine question as I don't understand the context

I don't know, too old! But my interpretation is that the comments are basic, ill thought, or cheap digs without substance.

 

[Marked Ox]

So Arron Banks is going with the ridiculous 'Bantz' defence:

Reform candidate James Evans brands Banks' comment racist

Arron Banks posted "Welsh lad?" on X in response to a Plaid Cymru video fronted by a black community organiser.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Marston Road Yellow]

So my understanding is that he reposted something about the police using excessive force and then apologised for it saying that he felt the police should be held to a standard.

I’m not a green or an apologist for them.

I didn’t agree with the reposting (from what I have read as ,I didn’t see it as I won’t do x )

Whoever the person being arrested is needs to be aresred in the most reasonable way so as to protect the public and the police and stop the perpetrator in a way as to ensure a conviction.

The police by all reasonable means necessary should have stopped and detained the suspect, absolutely, if that means kicking them in the face till they drop the knife so be it.

Saying that the police need to be held to a standard shouldn’t ever be in question, and shouldn’t be questioned.

Maybe I’m old school.

 

[chuckbert]

Excellent those who are pro immigration should suffer the consequences. A perfectly sensible policy

Pitiful. No question that you’re a supporter of corrupt policies now.

 

[boogaloo]

Excellent those who are pro immigration should suffer the consequences. A perfectly sensible policy

So by the same token, if Greens win, then you'd be perfectly happy for wind turbines to be erected and solar farms to be built in areas with a Reform MP.

We could stick a load in Clacton and make use of those North Sea currents. Although I don't Farage will notice, cos he's never there!

 

[Boris]

I'd rather live next door to an asylum seeker than a Reform voter

 

[Essexyellows]

So my understanding is that he reposted something about the police using excessive force and then apologised for it saying that he felt the police should be held to a standard.

I’m not a green or an apologist for them.

I didn’t agree with the reposting (from what I have read as ,I didn’t see it as I won’t do x )

Whoever the person being arrested is needs to be aresred in the most reasonable way so as to protect the public and the police and stop the perpetrator in a way as to ensure a conviction.

The police by all reasonable means necessary should have stopped and detained the suspect, absolutely, if that means kicking them in the face till they drop the knife so be it.

Saying that the police need to be held to a standard shouldn’t ever be in question, and shouldn’t be questioned.

Maybe I’m old school.

Well done. Got there in the end. And you suggest others "miss the point".

By all means investigate the police........... when there is something to investigate.

In this case there is nothing to even think twice about.

 

[Northstandboy]

For a party who want to cut waste etc, I’ve had 5 of the same leaflet through my door in the last 2 weeks!

 

[Under The Cuckoo Lane]

I have a vote this Thursday for Deddington Ward CDC.
Which party would be best for OUFC?

Lib Dems
Green
Conservative
Reform
Labour

 

[Toe knee]

I have a vote this Thursday for Deddington Ward CDC.
Which party would be best for OUFC?

Lib Dems
Green
Conservative
Reform
Labour