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Ex-Player Thread George Baldock - RIP

carefreeoufc said:
Agree, PRB did excellently to lead in to it. My only thought beforehand was that perhaps a minutes applause would have been more fitting. I recognise and understand the gesture though.
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I’m sure the applause will come against Sheffield United at home.

Can’t imagine it not happening.

That would also work beautifully with the prospect of a surfer too.
 
carefreeoufc said:
Agree, PRB did excellently to lead in to it. My only thought beforehand was that perhaps a minutes applause would have been more fitting. I recognise and understand the gesture though.
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Absolutely not. Silence is much more respectful and befitting of the club's relationship with George. Reserve the applause for minor celebrities like the Queen Mother and cherished supporters like Womble
 
carefreeoufc said:
Agree, PRB did excellently to lead in to it. My only thought beforehand was that perhaps a minutes applause would have been more fitting. I recognise and understand the gesture though.
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Yep, I get what you are saying. Personally I prefer a minutes silence because it has so much power with thousands of people together but silent. But I understand that many people prefer celebrating the life through applause. The other thing, and I say this as a dad to an autistic son, there will be some neurodiverse fans (particularly younger kids) who will really struggle with a minutes silence and shout out. In my experience when this happens the vast majority of people get it and understand but worth remembering that. Anyway, that fact is all of us supporters - however we want to acknowledge it - were united in our respect for George and our empathy for his family. It was a powerful but sad moment.
 
Stranger said:
Absolutely not. Silence is much more respectful and befitting of the club's relationship with George. Reserve the applause for minor celebrities like the Queen Mother and cherished supporters like Womble
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Read the Sheffield United forum and they wish they'd done what we did.
 
Northstandboy said:
Can you link it?

They were away at Leeds though, maybe will do something at their place.
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www.s24su.com

George Baldock RIP

The wreath laying was really obvious in the away end? It was literally right infront of us, and I could see if from the second-to-last row I was towards the back at the right hand side and was only aware of the wreath laying when I saw it on tv later
www.s24su.com www.s24su.com
 
Wandering Yellow said:
It's hard to get in side the mind of someone who would consider that "banter". Something is not right in your life if you think that is an even remotely normal thing to do at a football match.
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just edit that - "Something is not right in your life if you think that is an even remotely normal thing to do at any situation or time"
 
Wandering Yellow said:
It's hard to get in side the mind of someone who would consider that "banter". Something is not right in your life if you think that is an even remotely normal thing to do at a football match.
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I think it’s a form of weakness and low self-esteem.

You’re so desperate to have an impact on the world, on other people - any impact whatsoever - that if you can make people upset and hurt them then you at least register, you matter in some way. You’ve affected something.

I think it’s similarity one of the reasons why people bully others in life or troll people online - again, it gives them a sense of power, and of impact, of mattering. Doesn’t matter that it’s a negative, if it registers. Sense of power which they don’t get any other way.

That’s my theory anyway.
 
Steve Gilbert said:
It was a Sheffield Wednesday fan who was arrested over the same thing to do with little Bradley Lowery. It seems they have their fair share of brain dead wankers.
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I'm not tarring all Wednesday fans with the same Brush but it was also them who made some shocking comments after a West Brom fan collapsed and died in the away end. Leading I believe to one or two arrests.

Every club has it's idiots, but Wednesday has more than its fair share it seems.
 
IsleofWightYellow said:
I think it’s a form of weakness and low self-esteem.

You’re so desperate to have an impact on the world, on other people - any impact whatsoever - that if you can make people upset and hurt them then you at least register, you matter in some way. You’ve affected something.

I think it’s similarity one of the reasons why people bully others in life or troll people online - again, it gives them a sense of power, and of impact, of mattering. Doesn’t matter that it’s a negative, if it registers. Sense of power which they don’t get any other way.

That’s my theory anyway.
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I'm sure you are probably right. I almost feel sorry for the idiot who did it. It absolutely must be something to do with low self esteem, no normal human being would do something like that.

I'm all for banter at football and anyone who sees my posts on here knows I am not "woke", but every sensible human being knows there is a line you just do not cross.
 
IsleofWightYellow said:
I think it’s a form of weakness and low self-esteem.

You’re so desperate to have an impact on the world, on other people - any impact whatsoever - that if you can make people upset and hurt them then you at least register, you matter in some way. You’ve affected something.

I think it’s similarity one of the reasons why people bully others in life or troll people online - again, it gives them a sense of power, and of impact, of mattering. Doesn’t matter that it’s a negative, if it registers. Sense of power which they don’t get any other way.

That’s my theory anyway.
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Not enough 'attaboy''s from his parents when growing up. Next step, pond scum.
 
Orkney Islands Yellow said:
www.bbc.co.uk

George Baldock: Footballer drowned in swimming pool accident, inquest finds

Former defender George Baldock died in an accident in his swimming pool with no drugs or alcohol in his system, an inquest has found.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Great to have that one threatening cloud blown away, and confirm once and for all what we all knew to be the case. George was a truly great guy, who suffered from a most tragic accident. He can now rest in peace without a stain on his ledger.
 
Emilio said:
Great to have that one threatening cloud blown away, and confirm once and for all what we all knew to be the case. George was a truly great guy, who suffered from a most tragic accident. He can now rest in peace without a stain on his ledger.
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Was just about to write the same thing. For those who haven't heard it, there is an extremely moving special episode on the Dub about George's passing including some lovely audio footage of him giving his Oxford shirt to a young fan on his last appearance.
 
Emilio said:
Great to have that one threatening cloud blown away, and confirm once and for all what we all knew to be the case. George was a truly great guy, who suffered from a most tragic accident. He can now rest in peace without a stain on his ledger.
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I know you're well intentioned, but if it were the case that he'd chugged a bottle of prescription pain killers and a bottle of whisky and that his death (or anyone else's in that scenario) was somehow 'self-inflicted' it would not, in any way, be a 'stain on his ledger'.
 
SirAndyOfCrosby said:
I know you're well intentioned, but if it were the case that he'd chugged a bottle of prescription pain killers and a bottle of whisky and that his death (or anyone else's in that scenario) was somehow 'self-inflicted' it would not, in any way, be a 'stain on his ledger'.
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Agree with you on that - the result of this report would not have impacted my view of the forever-young man. However, I know for a fact some people out there, upon hearing of his death, jumped to conclusions and spoke about him disparagingly as a rich and foolish party-powder-fuelled footballer with far more money than sense. Thankfully this report shows he cannot be tarnished with that brush.
 
I think it's comforting that there is nothing sinister in his death, just a tragic accident. The accident bit is intriguing though, you hear of it from time to time but assuming he could swim you do wonder how he came to such an end. I guess something like slipping and knocking himself out is the only form of accident I can think of.
 
dickwalton1964 said:
I think it's comforting that there is nothing sinister in his death, just a tragic accident. The accident bit is intriguing though, you hear of it from time to time but assuming he could swim you do wonder how he came to such an end. I guess something like slipping and knocking himself out is the only form of accident I can think of.
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He may have had had a cardiovascular arrhythmia, seizure, or similar health complication while in the water that would have prevented him from getting out, and led to drowning. Often these complications don't leave any visible evidence, so we could never know.


EDIT: One solace we can take is that, if this was the case, then he may well have lost consciousness before even realising he was in trouble, meaning he would at least not have suffered.
 
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