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Easty should know better,after all he did once see a list of our targets that convinced him to stay on
Interesting how a whole season of positivity seems to be consumed in such a short space of time.
After all the high drama of Newcastle
We had a director saying we are not financially equipped for the Championship, followed by the teams humbling at Peterborough.
Easty tells the Oxford Mail this morning that the automatic places are likely out of reach and with that, the whole dynamic of our season seems to have shifted to hovering precariously over the porcelain. Funnily enough, it didn’t feel like anything had changed On the terraces either Tuesday night or for that matter at Peterborough,
On the whole, I felt it was just a bad day at the office.
But that may not be the case at all.
Perhaps I am reading too much negative stuff on here but it does feel like the show is coming to a grisly and untimely end.
I really hope that the team can find something within themselves to keep fighting. Keep believing in this season.
Losing a couple of games should not be a wall we cannot climb over.
Our season should not be defined in this way. We have been far too good to let it just slide away.
I believe that This team have it in them to drag themselves back to the top, but only if that is truly what they all want.
How far they are willing to go will soon be answered.
There's a big difference between being unable to match the finances of Championship clubs, and not wanting promotion. We've seen the last few seasons how the step up from league 1 is so big with many teams bouncing between the two. Rotherham, this season, are an example how you can build a very good league 1 squad off the back of the extra revenue promotion offers.
The last week of the transfer window was frustrating, Robinson would share that frustration too. But it wasn't for lack of trying. O'Donnell had spoken with the club, Kilmarnock was pushing for a little more, but it looked like the deal would go through until O'Donnell changed his mind. Grigg was happy to come and a loan deal was put together, but Sunderland said it needs to be a permanent deal, so we made a very competitive offer, but Sunderland backed out. That is what pissed Robinson off with the comments about other clubs professionalism. Other players were looked at, but no one offered more than we had at a value that reflected the players true worth. But that doesn't mean that we had no money to spend and we're contributing a lot towards the wages and loan fees for Browne, Holland and Kelly.
We have what we have as a squad, and that should be plenty good enough to finish in the top 8. Where we finish will depend on getting players back fit and at their best, hardwork, togetherness and a bit of luck. Rotherham, Peterborough and Coventry are looking the strongest, and top 2 may be a big ask, but the playoffs remain a very real possibility.
Saturday was always going to be difficult, especially after everything that happened with the Newcastle game, and what made things worse was that we didn't have the fight in us to shut up shop or battle through when we went behind.
But the idea that this one game will define our season is absolutely crazy. Fortunately, the negativity on here is not replicated around the club, and equally not reflective in general of the feeling on the terraces. As mentioned before, it was a bad day at the office, an awful day after an average month or so. But that has gone and it's how we pick ourselves up that matters.
It took the Fleetwood game to give us a kick up the a**e earlier in the season, or the Accrington game in January last year. Look at how the club responded after those two defeats? Mirror the kind of runs that followed and promotion is a very real possibility.
This season is far from over, we have some tough games to come, but every game is winnable if we are at our best. The atmosphere at Burton, then again at Sunderland, Wimbledon, Ipswich, Accrington, Southend and so on, needs to be as good as it's been when we've been making other teams look pretty ordinary. We can't choose what happens to us, but we can choose how we respond and we need to come out fighting.
"Without struggle there is no success"
The problem is bud that you often ask us to believe what the club tells us, Robbo informed that Grigg was a non runner as Sunderland would not let him go to a promotion rival no more than we would let ours go to posh pompey etc but here you are now telling us that a deal was agreed but then Sunderland wanted a permanent which does contradict what Karl has said.
At no time during the long debate on here on failing to get a striker did you once mention this yet here you are asking us to believe that a deal was agreed,then sunderland wanted a permanent and all this happened in the final 24hours of the transfer window? if that was the case why was Grigg at Tranmere having talks along with 2 other strikers?
The only potential incoming you ever mentioned on here was for RB and one in particular, you even tried to suggest we were stronger without the 2 that left and now you come on here with all this spin once more trying to defend yet again...
Sorry but i and i suspect many others decided to believe Karl when he said 24 hours before the window closed nobody would be coming.
Oh and if we're so pissed off with Sunderland why are we rubbing their tummy again with this alleged summer move for Grigg?
So tell me what the “general feeling on the terraces” is then, please. It doesn’t reflect the “negativity” on this forum? Where do you sit at the Kassam? Where will you be at Burton? Genuinely interested.There's a big difference between being unable to match the finances of Championship clubs, and not wanting promotion. We've seen the last few seasons how the step up from league 1 is so big with many teams bouncing between the two. Rotherham, this season, are an example how you can build a very good league 1 squad off the back of the extra revenue promotion offers.
The last week of the transfer window was frustrating, Robinson would share that frustration too. But it wasn't for lack of trying. O'Donnell had spoken with the club, Kilmarnock was pushing for a little more, but it looked like the deal would go through until O'Donnell changed his mind. Grigg was happy to come and a loan deal was put together, but Sunderland said it needs to be a permanent deal, so we made a very competitive offer, but Sunderland backed out. That is what pissed Robinson off with the comments about other clubs professionalism. Other players were looked at, but no one offered more than we had at a value that reflected the players true worth. But that doesn't mean that we had no money to spend and we're contributing a lot towards the wages and loan fees for Browne, Holland and Kelly.
We have what we have as a squad, and that should be plenty good enough to finish in the top 8. Where we finish will depend on getting players back fit and at their best, hardwork, togetherness and a bit of luck. Rotherham, Peterborough and Coventry are looking the strongest, and top 2 may be a big ask, but the playoffs remain a very real possibility.
Saturday was always going to be difficult, especially after everything that happened with the Newcastle game, and what made things worse was that we didn't have the fight in us to shut up shop or battle through when we went behind.
But the idea that this one game will define our season is absolutely crazy. Fortunately, the negativity on here is not replicated around the club, and equally not reflective in general of the feeling on the terraces. As mentioned before, it was a bad day at the office, an awful day after an average month or so. But that has gone and it's how we pick ourselves up that matters.
It took the Fleetwood game to give us a kick up the a**e earlier in the season, or the Accrington game in January last year. Look at how the club responded after those two defeats? Mirror the kind of runs that followed and promotion is a very real possibility.
This season is far from over, we have some tough games to come, but every game is winnable if we are at our best. The atmosphere at Burton, then again at Sunderland, Wimbledon, Ipswich, Accrington, Southend and so on, needs to be as good as it's been when we've been making other teams look pretty ordinary. We can't choose what happens to us, but we can choose how we respond and we need to come out fighting.
"Without struggle there is no success"
Yes, this. But also, given our stadium issues I reckon that most fans are desperately eager for some signs of progress on that front as well.guess the point I’m trying to make is, no matter how positive Scotchegg tries to tell me to be, or how negative greatuncklekip’s arguments are, personally I’m going to watch the game on Tuesday on iFollow, and if I see a positive, energetic Oxford United performance and win then I’ll be generally feeling positive, whereas if there’s another abject, poor performance I’ll be worried. Simple as that
There's a big difference between being unable to match the finances of Championship clubs, and not wanting promotion. We've seen the last few seasons how the step up from league 1 is so big with many teams bouncing between the two. Rotherham, this season, are an example how you can build a very good league 1 squad off the back of the extra revenue promotion offers.
The last week of the transfer window was frustrating, Robinson would share that frustration too. But it wasn't for lack of trying. O'Donnell had spoken with the club, Kilmarnock was pushing for a little more, but it looked like the deal would go through until O'Donnell changed his mind. Grigg was happy to come and a loan deal was put together, but Sunderland said it needs to be a permanent deal, so we made a very competitive offer, but Sunderland backed out. That is what pissed Robinson off with the comments about other clubs professionalism. Other players were looked at, but no one offered more than we had at a value that reflected the players true worth. But that doesn't mean that we had no money to spend and we're contributing a lot towards the wages and loan fees for Browne, Holland and Kelly.
We have what we have as a squad, and that should be plenty good enough to finish in the top 8. Where we finish will depend on getting players back fit and at their best, hardwork, togetherness and a bit of luck. Rotherham, Peterborough and Coventry are looking the strongest, and top 2 may be a big ask, but the playoffs remain a very real possibility.
Saturday was always going to be difficult, especially after everything that happened with the Newcastle game, and what made things worse was that we didn't have the fight in us to shut up shop or battle through when we went behind.
But the idea that this one game will define our season is absolutely crazy. Fortunately, the negativity on here is not replicated around the club, and equally not reflective in general of the feeling on the terraces. As mentioned before, it was a bad day at the office, an awful day after an average month or so. But that has gone and it's how we pick ourselves up that matters.
It took the Fleetwood game to give us a kick up the a**e earlier in the season, or the Accrington game in January last year. Look at how the club responded after those two defeats? Mirror the kind of runs that followed and promotion is a very real possibility.
This season is far from over, we have some tough games to come, but every game is winnable if we are at our best. The atmosphere at Burton, then again at Sunderland, Wimbledon, Ipswich, Accrington, Southend and so on, needs to be as good as it's been when we've been making other teams look pretty ordinary. We can't choose what happens to us, but we can choose how we respond and we need to come out fighting.
"Without struggle there is no success"
Holland is not better than Baptiste and we haven’t seen enough of KellyThe initial discussion was around a loan deal. Sunderland did not want to do a loan to a promotion rival (Tranmere are not a promotion rival!), but said pay x amount and he's yours. A deal was put together for a permanent deal which was very competitive and Grigg wanted to move, but then Sunderland said no at the last minute.
Robinson said the day before the deadline that he wanted Grigg. This was now the permanent deal and despite saying that SD wouldn't sell, discussions were still ongoing.
By the Friday, it was clear that Sunderland wouldn't do a deal and rather than discuss this in a professional way they basically just blanked KR. That's why he then came out with the 'unprofessional' comment about other clubs.
As for the players leaving and us being stronger, yes, I do think that Kelly, Browne and Holland are better than Hall, Fosu and Baptiste. I also think that Long and Sykes offer a real alternative to Cadden and Henry on the right. Different players, different style, but not significantly weaker.
As for "spin", it's there alongside "fake news" and "snowflake" as words thrown out to undermine opinion without any substance. Nothing I've said has been contradicted by KR or anyone.
umm sorry but Karl is on record as saying the Grigg situation was not Stews fault and yet you say they were fine to sell him to a rival but not loan him, again not what Karl said
If what you say is what actually happened, why dont Karl or Zaki come out and explain that rather than taking flack for being tight?So stupidly naive.
This isn't a dig... far from it, but I genuinely believe that you'd manage to put a positive spin on all out nuclear war it's a skillThere's a big difference between being unable to match the finances of Championship clubs, and not wanting promotion. We've seen the last few seasons how the step up from league 1 is so big with many teams bouncing between the two. Rotherham, this season, are an example how you can build a very good league 1 squad off the back of the extra revenue promotion offers.
The last week of the transfer window was frustrating, Robinson would share that frustration too. But it wasn't for lack of trying. O'Donnell had spoken with the club, Kilmarnock was pushing for a little more, but it looked like the deal would go through until O'Donnell changed his mind. Grigg was happy to come and a loan deal was put together, but Sunderland said it needs to be a permanent deal, so we made a very competitive offer, but Sunderland backed out. That is what pissed Robinson off with the comments about other clubs professionalism. Other players were looked at, but no one offered more than we had at a value that reflected the players true worth. But that doesn't mean that we had no money to spend and we're contributing a lot towards the wages and loan fees for Browne, Holland and Kelly.
We have what we have as a squad, and that should be plenty good enough to finish in the top 8. Where we finish will depend on getting players back fit and at their best, hardwork, togetherness and a bit of luck. Rotherham, Peterborough and Coventry are looking the strongest, and top 2 may be a big ask, but the playoffs remain a very real possibility.
Saturday was always going to be difficult, especially after everything that happened with the Newcastle game, and what made things worse was that we didn't have the fight in us to shut up shop or battle through when we went behind.
But the idea that this one game will define our season is absolutely crazy. Fortunately, the negativity on here is not replicated around the club, and equally not reflective in general of the feeling on the terraces. As mentioned before, it was a bad day at the office, an awful day after an average month or so. But that has gone and it's how we pick ourselves up that matters.
It took the Fleetwood game to give us a kick up the a**e earlier in the season, or the Accrington game in January last year. Look at how the club responded after those two defeats? Mirror the kind of runs that followed and promotion is a very real possibility.
This season is far from over, we have some tough games to come, but every game is winnable if we are at our best. The atmosphere at Burton, then again at Sunderland, Wimbledon, Ipswich, Accrington, Southend and so on, needs to be as good as it's been when we've been making other teams look pretty ordinary. We can't choose what happens to us, but we can choose how we respond and we need to come out fighting.
"Without struggle there is no success"
didn't take you long did it
what's the matter not capable of a decent exchange of views, the problem is you defend defend and defend more and ask us to believe the club then come out with all this having said nothing at the time and expect us to suddenly ignore the manager.
Even EC Yellow who has been pretty much spot on confirmed no more incoming and if the Grigg deal was imminent surely there would have been rumors and given your history and the s**t hitting the fan when we let 2 go you would have been allover it at the time.
You also still have not answered why if Grigg was happy to come to us what he was doing holding talks with Tranmere!
Jesus Christ!! Throw 2 things together and hope something works???!!!!apart from the fact when i and later others stated Karl was pissed off in the Radox forum with him and Niall and at that time was when he said Grigg was a non runner, your response was he was not pissed off but joking...so he was pissed off after all then but not because we let 2 go and a 3rd would see him walk but due to the actions of sunderland just it slipped your mind, it happens !!.
I think this hits at the crux of good feelings. When something positive happens, it's always nearly offset by something negative. Usually it's been a winding up order, but this season, after our good late-2019 run (positive), we lost Cadden (negative). Then we signed Browne, Holland and Kelly in a couple of days (positive), but failed to win in January (negative). We forced Newcastle into a replay (positive), but then sold Fosu and Baptiste (negative). We took Newcastle all the way in the replay (positive), but then got hammered by Peterborough (negative).
It seems like we're just not getting a sustained period of positives be it to do with players leaving, bad results on the pitch or poor boardroom communication (just because Zaki does an interview, it doesn't mean that it's automatically good communication). In our League Two season, we had a string of positives to shout about. Or if we didn't, the thing that was causing us grief was specifically rectified. If we lost a player (Baldock), we signed a replacement (Kenny). If we lost a game, we wouldn't lose the next. But now it feels like if we lose a player (Fosu/Baptiste) we have to win a game (Blackpool) for the good feeling to make a bit of a comeback, so inevitably when points are dropped (Peterborough), the blame comes back to the loss of players we didn't replace.