- Year of First Game
- 1998
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Current Staff Gary Rowett
- Thread starter Carpy
- Start date
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Yeah I think Bennett’s age will stop him getting a new deal, not that he’s an awful player by any means.
From what I’ve seen of El-Mizouni I don’t think he’s of the required standard plus he seems to have lost the ability to cover any type of ground and I’m not sure what his best position is either.
Going to need decent investment in the summer if as it looks now that we stay up. I’m sure the owners will be happy to oblige but we will need to go again.
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
I think you are right, in midfield we need a couple of stronger more tenacious types. (Hopefully matos comes permanently as one of them) someone a bit taller and imposing would be good tbh.
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Bennett is also getting older and we have Currie coming back & I think rowett will fancy another.
I don’t think Moore is too unreal a claim at all. He’s not quick enough and he picks up injuries, he might stay but we should be looking to upgrade if we can. We will have to be ruthless.
OX14
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
For me if we do stay up in this division in the summer window to be more comfortable in this league next season we need to let go the likes of El Mizouni, Sibley and Bennett ( Bennett only due to his age and it's a shame as he is a top player but just isn't going to last a full season)
We need to really strengthen in midfield and upfront and have some real competition for places in the squad.
If Rowett is staying in charge next season then we need to bring in players that suit his way of playing too but hopefully that doesn't mean we go back to the negative approach seen in alot of games recently. Possibly it's the lack of talent in this squad and inconsistentcy in current players that he doesn't 100% trust them so applies the handbrake somewhat.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt though and take charge next season in the championship. I know it's not quite job done yet but when you see stats posted above that show that the games Rowett have been in charge we would sit 8th in the table. That's quite staggering when you think back to games against Hull , QPR, Stoke , Plymouth away where we should of performed better and picked up more points.
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RyanioBirdio
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
Hector Kyprianou is the one for me. Walks away from Posh on a free in June. Unfortunately, I suspect half the Championship will be after him this summer.
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
And sell a few more of the shirts before we go to next season without having to reduce them all in price.
Depends what Rowett wants to do next season. This season was a rescue mission so it will be interesting to see if he changes to something less "pragmatic"
BrockBuster
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Yeah wonder if there's any players in our squad currently being labelled as 'not good enough for the Championship' that could actually thrive at this level in a system better suited to their abilities - as you say potentially a less pragmatic one.
We would get money for Moore as well.
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
Why on earth would we sell Moore, unless he wanted to go? Our captain and possibly our best centre half. (Better than Helik in my view).
Steve Gilbert
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
If we could get a better CB than Moore then I think he would be sold or potentially used as part of the deal.
I do wonder if we are hoping for too much from Currie. Kioso was so impressive in League One that Peterborough made him captain during a six month loan spell when they were going for automatic promotion. It’s a big step up.
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
Exactly, El Miz tore it up for Orient but has been an unimpressive reserve in the championship. Currie might be great but we can't take that for granted.
Osleroad
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Whether Rowett "likes" them or not neither have kicked on exactly - I like Idris too but not sure what has happened there.
RyanioBirdio
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
I suspect it’ll be fairly similar stylistically, but he’ll hopefully have better quality players to implement it with. If he had half a dozen new players who could each “raise the floor” as he says, it would probably be a little easier on the eye by proxy of being more controlled and better drilled. You can already see the differences between Bradshaw and Harris, in terms of the former being much more clever and able to keep the ball and link play very intelligently, so I think it’s fairly easy to imagine how a few similar improvements across the pitch could make things look a lot tidier. I think we’re very much in a “needs must” situation right now.
I appreciate that others will feel differently, but I’m really not bothered about being served up champagne football. Yeah, it’s been a bit grim and bumpy at times, of course it has, but overall I’m enjoying visiting proper clubs with proper grounds, and being sat in a sold-out stadium with a packed away end every home game. Maybe that’ll wear thin eventually, but right now I’m very happy to be going to places like Stoke, Norwich, and Sheffield Wednesday while seeing us come away with results, and watching us turn over the likes of Sheffield United, Watford, and Blackburn on our own patch. I’m really chuffed to see the team I support holding its own, one division below the Premier League, after a quarter of a century away. Nobody gave us any credit, any respect, or any chance of surviving this season, and we’re proving them all wrong. That’s my enjoyment.
I’d much rather watch us scrap it out at Leicester and Southampton than go back to Lincoln and Stevenage, so that we can pat ourselves on the back for having 60% of the ball and loads of completed passes. I’ve been there and done it, and I’m not that keen to do it again. Give me West Brom over Wigan, Middlesbrough over Mansfield, and Birmingham over Burton any day.
I think a considerable queue would form to blast Tim Williams for a conversation in December (joint bottom at the time) that lead with “we’d like to stay up but aesthetically pleasing football is really what matters most, take us down as long as we look nice”. Wouldn’t put it past him, but given Rowett turned up I would suggest we recognised as a club that points were all that mattered for a while. We were exactly right to put that snobbery aside and give ourselves the best chance.
Nobody can be under any illusions when a manager like Rowett comes in. You know what you’re going to be from that point onwards and I haven’t enjoyed every minute, but when it’s mathematically done I will only feel one thing and that’s ecstatic. There’s a good reason managers like this continue to have such a strong market despite the emergence of new football brains and general preference for the next up and coming thing.
Look how that’s worked out for Luton with largely an ex premier league side and further heavy January investment. Bet if you did a survey of their fans now they’d rather be listening to Neil Warnock for a bit knowing they’d be mid table by now.
Give me percentage football all day every day if it means I’m watching my club at the highest level they’re capable of, at some of the biggest noisiest grounds in the country in what I think is the most competitive league in the world. If the worst thing that happens to us in the next couple of years is “doing a Preston” then I’ll have it no questions asked.
Nobody can be under any illusions when a manager like Rowett comes in. You know what you’re going to be from that point onwards and I haven’t enjoyed every minute, but when it’s mathematically done I will only feel one thing and that’s ecstatic. There’s a good reason managers like this continue to have such a strong market despite the emergence of new football brains and general preference for the next up and coming thing.
Look how that’s worked out for Luton with largely an ex premier league side and further heavy January investment. Bet if you did a survey of their fans now they’d rather be listening to Neil Warnock for a bit knowing they’d be mid table by now.
Give me percentage football all day every day if it means I’m watching my club at the highest level they’re capable of, at some of the biggest noisiest grounds in the country in what I think is the most competitive league in the world. If the worst thing that happens to us in the next couple of years is “doing a Preston” then I’ll have it no questions asked.
Sure, but at the same time we're not going to know if Currie can hack it at Championship level unless we give him a shot.
He's shown he's a top left back in a promotion-chasing League One side, so there's nothing more for him to learn or show at that level. If we don't use him in our squad next season, we may as well sell him on whilst he still has value.
But I would rather give him that shot. Trigger the option on Greg Leigh (if Scotchers is correct, and we have one), go into next season with Currie and Leigh as our LBs - and worry about other positions in the summer where we don't have similar quality options.
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
Absolutely give him a try!
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Without seeing too much of Currie this season it is safe to say in terms of value that he is worth double the £400k we paid. I watched him v City in the cup and a couple of other games on Sky and he looks much better than the average L1 defender.
Had he been poor at L1 level then we would have another in the Goodwin category to offload. So hopefully we bring him back in.
A fair few others will be gone and I can see probably 10 others coming in.
Had he been poor at L1 level then we would have another in the Goodwin category to offload. So hopefully we bring him back in.
A fair few others will be gone and I can see probably 10 others coming in.
m
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
I’m happy to give Rowett the benefit of the doubt if we do stay up. I think if we were to get relegated I’d feel differently but there we go.
Agree with the last point too. Should have had perhaps 7 points at least from those away games. Also with the Pompey (H) game we should have perhaps got something out of that, not entirely farfetched to say we should be 8 points better off.
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Yeah I’ve always been impressed with him when I’ve watched him for Posh.
Rumours that unofficially he’s agreed to join Watford but he’s absolutely the type of player I’d like to see join, will be a very interesting summer should we stay up.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
On the basis that we are the 8th best team in the Division since his appointment, not sure that there can be much 'doubt"?
Every team can always refer to points that they should have got. This always happens over a long season.
m
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
There should be an emoji which is half 'love' and half 'vomit'.
If Orient manage to get promoted I’m pretty certain we’ll be receiving quite a substantial offer from them for Currie.
I suspect we’ll see him as very much part of our plans so I think what we’d ask for would be well out of their reach, but I can see them having El Mizouni off us next season regardless of division.
I we are still in the championship I doubt they will be able to offer us enough to make it worth our time, he cost us £400,000 and Leyton Orient will get a percentage of any fee, can't see Orient affording him on the outside chance they get promoted, definitely can't see them affording him in the more likely scenario that they don't.
Cookie
Level: Mateo Corbo
(13 Apps, 8 Yellows, 1 Red)
By that logic we were expected to lose against both Sheffield teams, so you could say we should be 6 points worse off...
Colin B
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
I think you're missing the point.
It's not about who we were "expected" to lose to, it's about the in-game expectation once the game was underway. In other words, in the games mentioned, we were either unlucky, or let in very late goals, in games where we were the better team, therefore we should have got more points from those games than we did. I don't really remember too many games where the reverse could be said either, maybe West Brom at home, but nothing else springs to mind?
