- Year of First Game
- 1998
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Current Staff Gary Rowett
- Thread starter Carpy
- Start date
Yellowarmy
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Excellent record. Full credit. Always find it amusing when a minority state the 1st 3 wins were only plymouth, cardiff and millwall away. Millwall are now knocking on the play offs door and cardiff and plymouth were huge, vital wins in hindsight. No win is easy in this league.
MJB
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
And we were very much in both of those games too, despite playing poorly for the first half of both.
MJB
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
Thankfully we corrected that somewhat against Watford.
That table really is amazing, didn't for one moment think it was so good.
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
ECYellow
Level: Yemi Odubade
(158 Apps, 31 Gls)
Still nothing from Chrome…
A regular contributor on this thread, online a couple of hours ago but seemingly, nothing to add. Strange.
A regular contributor on this thread, online a couple of hours ago but seemingly, nothing to add. Strange.
SirAndyOfCrosby
Level: Dave Langan
(136 Apps, 3 Gls)
Championship Table 'position', since their respective (latest) managerial appointments:
Stoke (under Robins) - 12th.
Derby (under Eustace) - 12th.
Plymouth (under Muslic) - 14th.
Hull (under Selles) - 15th.
Cardiff (under Riza) - 19th.
Luton (under Bloomfield) - 24th.
Oxford (under Rowett) - 8th.
A change of manager usually sees some uplift, but we've undoubtedly played a blinder here...
Stoke (under Robins) - 12th.
Derby (under Eustace) - 12th.
Plymouth (under Muslic) - 14th.
Hull (under Selles) - 15th.
Cardiff (under Riza) - 19th.
Luton (under Bloomfield) - 24th.
Oxford (under Rowett) - 8th.
A change of manager usually sees some uplift, but we've undoubtedly played a blinder here...
Bloomfield was a great appointment for us, knocked Wycombe out of the autos and relegating Luton.
Orkney Islands Yellow
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
Our turnover in League One for year ending June 2024 was £8.4m and I believe our budget for this season was £17m with more to come next season. @Colin B is likely to know better than me.
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
If you take in all those extra season ticket sales with extra TV money and other revenues I think it will cover a hell of a lot of the extra expenditure. We don’t spend massive amounts on wages and transfer fees although we have done so by our own standards.
Extra shop sales and shirt sales this year and wasn’t the purple shirt an absolute belter?
As someone said we have an Indonesian market we can tap into and once safe it would be great to see Marcelino given a game. I know it turns it into a bit of a circus but the lad plays for his country and we have loads of followers as a result.
Gregortheox
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
And this is the reason I don’t think wholesale changes is the answer.
For the sake of continuity and sustainable spending, if we spunked our entire budget, together with letting players leave who can’t get in to this Oxford team on a couple of champ quality midfielders, and a couple who give us genuine goal threat across the front line, mid table with 58-60 points is realistic.
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
That’s the type of fee we will need to spend in the summer. I think he will be available for less than that. Only 1 year left on deal and can’t handle be structured over the contract with a sell on fee
Colin B
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Yes, that's not far off, for our budget.
It's worth bearing in mind that the extra money for being in The Championship is a minimum £10m, so our extra expenditure, without taking the stadium into account, will likely roughly balance with this.
Another thing to consider is that we need to get back to being a bit more of a trading club, and return to our previous model of buying playing assets, as that seems to have dried up over the last couple of years. The rewards for selling promising young players with Championship experience are far greater than they were in League One and Two, and it's possible to wipe out a couple of years' losses at a stroke with one big sale, or a handful of slightly lesser ones. But we need to be a Championship club to benefit fully from this. It's really a case of doing what we've previously done very successfully, but at a higher level.
Osleroad
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
In that case isn't it about balancing the loss of said players to the team with the ability to refresh with similar whilst there seems no pressure to recompense the owners in the short term.
Colin B
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
I'm not 100% sure what you're saying there mate?
Osleroad
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
What's the point of selling talented players if you don't think you can reasonably replace them and also if there is no pressure to repay loans/subsidies from owners.
Bicester Yellow
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
I think we have to be able to replace any of our players. They aren’t Messi.
The income helps you spend more whilst complying with financial fair play rules.
Plus £10m made from player sales is £10m we don’t have to go cap in hand to our owners for.
I don’t mind lending a mate a tenner but I’ll get tired of lending him a tenner a week pretty quickly, especially if I see him buying a round before paying me back because I “wasn’t that fussed about repayment”
Colin B
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Ah, OK.
Yes, absolutely on your first point. It needs to be, as it was previously, something of a conveyor belt with sales and signings. A good example is what we did with our centre halves, where, as Dickie was sold, McNally was already in the building, and when he was sold Atkinson was already in the building. Each time a small six figure sum was spent on a player and a sum between £1m and £2m was received.
On your second point, surely it's better to be self sufficient than relying on loans, no matter who they're from? Eventually we'll reach the ceiling for Championship level losses under EFL regulations, and loans will not be any use, whereas player trading profit will be able to go straight back into the budget.
Great pun there!
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Tend to agree with that.
Presumably we will be looking to move 7 to 8 out and replace them.
The only thing will be whether the coaching staff still think that El Mizouni has the potential that they thought he had and whether he could contribute far more next season?
Leigh/ Bennett also maybe a close call ( although age and injuries could go against Bennett)
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
The other thing that should be happening, is that we see more of our young players come through , as investment in the youth set up seems to have increased a lot year on year.
We have had Tyler, ( maybe GoD?) come through, but need some of the youngsters to step up ( Snowden Griffiths Lee or others that some closer than me would be aware of).
Much as I can't stand them, Reading's youth set up has been excellent ( something like £15m received in the past 4 to 5 years). I appreciate that they have a Category 1 Academy, but we should expect to see more coming through for our investment
bazzer9461
Level: Joey Beauchamp
(428 Apps, 79 Gls)
- Year of First Game
- 1968
Bennett played well in Saturday band was my MoM and probably a few others.
As for Moore that claim is a bit unreal.
Absolutely. We'll either need to get that conveyor belt moving again or the owners will have to start shifting towards equity investment. Most likely a bit of both.
Even with the additional championship millions current net losses are likely to be right at the limit of P&S rules. Not helped by stadium costs sitting with the club.
Future player sales can't be factored into P&S projections so if our (as yet unfiled) interim reporting shows anything like the £16m net loss we made in 23/24 things will be sticky. We remain the only EFL club under an embargo.
We all want investment in players and to move on those who haven't clicked here but the two players who will likely play the biggest role in the next year are Tyler Goodrham and Jack Currie.
SSO
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Spot on
And especially if he doesn’t buy me a drink in that round with my money.
ECYellow
Level: Yemi Odubade
(158 Apps, 31 Gls)
Anyone else for some more 'turgid tripe' at 'Chez Gary'??
Can i have an extra large portion please, Chromey @chromeyellow ??
I think El Miz and Sibley were recruited with Des’ quite specific ‘reverse mullet’ formation in mind - both sort of attacking 8s, without the discipline or instinct to do much defensively, but without sufficient skill to play as a lone 10 in the Championship. Rowett clearly doesn’t fancy them at all, I reckon they’ll be gone.
Shame as I liked El Miz, thought he did well in his initial cameos. For Sibley I think a career in League One and below beckons.
