Ex-Staff Gary Rowett

[Carpy]

1.Gary Rowett

Position: Head Coach

Nationality: England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Signed: 20th December 2024

Departed: 23rd December 2025 | Departed Posts: 1st Post

Previous Clubs: Birmingham City (Interim), Millwall, Stoke City, Derby County, Birmingham City, Burton Albion

Stats: TransferMarkt

Instagram: garyrowett1

 

[Basham Wonderland]

He gave us championship survival the season before when he was 100% committed and could be bothered.

He couldn’t be bothered this season and threw the towel in, his early season tactics and form are why we’ve been relegated.

Not much has changed, he wasn’t given that raw of a deal.

His tactics saw us throw away games over the first 19-20 games.

He gets no sympathy from me, he took our football club and it’s support for mugs and thought we should just accept the mediocrity he was serving up.

Saying we are not good enough to be at the level, how do you think that motivates our players? Pathetic.

I don't think he needs any sympathy, I just don't think he deserves as much hate as he seems to get.

I'm not sure he said we aren't good enough to be at the level (maybe he did and I missed it), but he questioned our energy and the ability of the players to step up. Either way, we were so clearly below the standard of the rest of the league this year that it wouldn't exactly be a stretch to suggest the squad isn't there.

As I say, he kept us up, and he had a hand in us going down (but also blame the higher ups and Bloomfield to some lesser extent). Net neutral really.

 

[Steve Gilbert]

He kept us up, should have gone in the summer but didn’t, had to deal with a shambles of a pre season and transfer window, gave the SMT enough chances and hints that he would be happy to get let go, finally called out the SMT which I thought was right to do and then got paid off.
Will always thank him for keeping us up and don’t really hold him in any bad light for this season. We had enough chances after he left to get enough points to stay up. Just from Pompey away, Derby away and Wrexham away we should have had enough in us to have 4 more points than we do.

It didn’t matter who was manager in the summer, if the senior figures above the manager don’t act like a championship club then the manager will struggle to build a winning team.

 

[greatunclekip]

He gave us championship survival the season before when he was 100% committed and could be bothered.

He couldn’t be bothered this season and threw the towel in, his early season tactics and form are why we’ve been relegated.

Not much has changed, he wasn’t given that raw of a deal.

His tactics saw us throw away games over the first 19-20 games.

He gets no sympathy from me, he took our football club and it’s support for mugs and thought we should just accept the mediocrity he was serving up.

Saying we are not good enough to be at the level, how do you think that motivates our players? Pathetic.

We had a CEO stating it didn’t really matter if we were relegated. A body rots from the head and ultimately that malaise spread and Rowett was proven 100 percent correct..

 

[Kernow Yellow]

We had enough chances after he left to get enough points to stay up. Just from Pompey away, Derby away and Wrexham away we should have had enough in us to have 4 more points than we do.

It didn’t matter who was manager in the summer, if the senior figures above the manager don’t act like a championship club then the manager will struggle to build a winning team.

I mean, of course we did mathematically. But under Rowett this season we got 0.86ppg. Since he left we have got 1.22 ppg. That's a whopping 42% improvement. He left us with a mountain to climb, and we haven't fallen too far short. You can't be blaming Bloomfield more than Rowett for passing up chances to get points and getting us relegated, surely?

Also, I understand that the summer was not ideal, and hindered our start to the season. But we then went on a run of games between Coventry (h) late August and Wednesday (a) late October when we showed what we were capable of and were sitting 19th in the table. It's what happened after that, when Rowett talked us down constantly and did not seem to try and win football games that has cost us. Almost as if he wanted to show our limitations to prove some kind of point (that he'd done such a great job last year, that the owners should back him more - I don't know).

I never felt that he had any particular liking for us as a club, and the feeling is mutual. I certainly have no hatred towards him, but I'm not going to remember him with any great fondness either.

 

[Under The Cuckoo Lane]

Rowett Rowett row the boat
Gently down the stream

Twice

 

[Pgyellow]

I still can't fathom why TW said that. Did he think it would be reassuring? In fact it had the opposite effect.

 

[Pgyellow]

The Rowett situation appears from the outside to have been wholly avoidable.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

I mean, of course we did mathematically. But under Rowett this season we got 0.86ppg. Since he left we have got 1.22 ppg. That's a whopping 42% improvement. He left us with a mountain to climb, and we haven't fallen too far short.

Little bit more nuanced than that.

Bloomfield, for all his 'improved PPG', took over with 11 home games remaining - none of which were against anyone who will trouble promotion (granted, one of Hull or Wrexham will likely scrape the play-offs).

Rowett, by comparison, had only 6 home games against the plethora of also rans (sides from 6th downward).

I don't say this to defend Rowett (he had plenty of opportunity to get results) but to make the point that it's been quite a lop-sided season - the first half at home to better sides and away to the crap, and then vice versa.

Rowett should have done more but whoever replaced him needed to make hay when the winnable home games came a-knocking.

Unfortunately 4 wins from those 11 (12 including Swansea - before Bloomfield but when a new manager should have been in place) was never going to be enough.

 

[PottersRightBoot]

Bloomfield has done far better than Rowett. By any metric.

( Apart from - the players available to him may have been slightly better. )

He deserves to stay for another crack.

Thohir will not be mucking about though, he will want us top 6 after 10 games.

Despite having Romeny in the squad.

 

[Bicester Yellow]

We had a CEO stating it didn’t really matter if we were relegated. A body rots from the head and ultimately that malaise spread and Rowett was proven 100 percent correct..

You can’t be blaming the CEO for the awful stuff rowett produced.

Yes things didn’t happen ideally with Indonesia but after that he’s paid to knuckle down and give it his all, he bad mouthed the club and players in the press numerous times as not being good enough, not what you should be doing when it’s your job to lead and represent the club.

 

[tatabanya]

Little bit more nuanced than that.

Bloomfield, for all his 'improved PPG', took over with 11 home games remaining - none of which were against anyone who will trouble promotion (granted, one of Hull or Wrexham will likely scrape the play-offs).

Rowett, by comparison, had only 6 home games against the plethora of also rans (sides from 6th downward).

I don't say this to defend Rowett (he had plenty of opportunity to get results) but to make the point that it's been quite a lop-sided season - the first half at home to better sides and away to the crap, and then vice versa.

Rowett should have done more but whoever replaced him needed to make hay when the winnable home games came a-knocking.

Unfortunately 4 wins from those 11 (12 including Swansea - before Bloomfield but when a new manager should have been in place) was never going to be enough.

Oh so now you're adding context to ppg?

 

[Kernow Yellow]

Little bit more nuanced than that.

Bloomfield, for all his 'improved PPG', took over with 11 home games remaining - none of which were against anyone who will trouble promotion (granted, one of Hull or Wrexham will likely scrape the play-offs).

Rowett, by comparison, had only 6 home games against the plethora of also rans (sides from 6th downward).

I don't say this to defend Rowett (he had plenty of opportunity to get results) but to make the point that it's been quite a lop-sided season - the first half at home to better sides and away to the crap, and then vice versa.

Rowett should have done more but whoever replaced him needed to make hay when the winnable home games came a-knocking.

Unfortunately 4 wins from those 11 (12 including Swansea - before Bloomfield but when a new manager should have been in place) was never going to be enough.

Of course there's nuance, but by and large they had half a season each, and played against roughly the same teams (whether home or away). Bloomfield's points haul per game is in fact 45% better than Rowett's. That is a significant amount. His 1.25ppg keeps you up fairly comfortably over a season.

Also, Rowett won only 1 of those 6 home games against 'also-rans' you are keen to highlight. Bloomfield has won 4 of his 11. That is also a much better strike rate. Much higher ppg too

I don't think Bloomfield is the second coming by any stretch. But he's done better than Rowett for us this season, pretty unarguably.

 

[unification]

I don't think he needs any sympathy, I just don't think he deserves as much hate as he seems to get.

I'm not sure he said we aren't good enough to be at the level (maybe he did and I missed it), but he questioned our energy and the ability of the players to step up. Either way, we were so clearly below the standard of the rest of the league this year that it wouldn't exactly be a stretch to suggest the squad isn't there.

As I say, he kept us up, and he had a hand in us going down (but also blame the higher ups and Bloomfield to some lesser extent). Net neutral really.

It’s because he didn’t.

Some read into his comment that he called us ‘little old Oxford’ – which was not used pejoratively – as doing the team down for some reason. It causes some weird levels of rage amongst some that we’re somehow equally sized to Middlesbrough, Derby and Coventry.

As I said in the relegation thread, if we’d swapped the two transfer windows around and had the eight new faces coming in at the start of the season and not in the winter, I suspect we would have performed better this season. It would have been the usual Rowett borefest but we would have been safe if we’d managed to have Donely, Konak, MPH etc a lot earlier than we did.

 

[Basham Wonderland]

It’s because he didn’t.

Some read into his comment that he called us ‘little old Oxford’ – which was not used pejoratively – as doing the team down for some reason. It causes some weird levels of rage amongst some that we’re somehow equally sized to Middlesbrough, Derby and Coventry.

As I said in the relegation thread, if we’d swapped the two transfer windows around and had the eight new faces coming in at the start of the season and not in the winter, I suspect we would have performed better this season. It would have been the usual Rowett borefest but we would have been safe if we’d managed to have Donely, Konak, MPH etc a lot earlier than we did.

Exactly this. I think some people are still working through the emotion of the relegation, and are taking it out on literally whoever they can find to have a pop at.

...when we all know the actual person to blame is Mark Harris for that criminal miss against Hull.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

Of course there's nuance, but by and large they had half a season each, and played against roughly the same teams (whether home or away). Bloomfield's points haul per game is in fact 45% better than Rowett's. That is a significant amount. His 1.25ppg keeps you up fairly comfortably over a season.

Also, Rowett won only 1 of those 6 home games against 'also-rans' you are keen to highlight. Bloomfield has won 4 of his 11. That is also a much better strike rate. Much higher ppg too

I don't think Bloomfield is the second coming by any stretch. But he's done better than Rowett for us this season, pretty unarguably.

And all I was doing was making the case that Bloomfield could and should have done better too - the 'he has done better than Rowett' shtick sets the bar so incredibly low.

Rowett was really poor this season. As was Bloomfield.

The only difference is that the latter is the incumbent, so people (not you specifically) are falling over themselves to talk up what has been a very disappointing time in charge.

 

[tatabanya]

And all I was doing was making the case that Bloomfield could and should have done better too - the 'he has done better than Rowett' shtick sets the bar so incredibly low.

Rowett was really poor this season. As was Bloomfield.

The only difference is that the latter is the incumbent, so people (not you specifically) are falling over themselves to talk up what has been a very disappointing time in charge.

Nobody is falling over themselves are they? And, as the previous poster points out, it clearly isn't the only difference?

 

[werthersoriginal]

And all I was doing was making the case that Bloomfield could and should have done better too - the 'he has done better than Rowett' shtick sets the bar so incredibly low.

Rowett was really poor this season. As was Bloomfield.

The only difference is that the latter is the incumbent, so people (not you specifically) are falling over themselves to talk up what has been a very disappointing time in charge.

I think you need to distinguish between Bloomfield's initial period, when he was trying to work out what to do and we were generally appalling, with the period after Konak came in and we settled on a team and pattern of play. In the latter period we looked spirited and had a decent run but failed when it mattered. Based mainly on how motivated the players seem I'd be inclined to give him the start of next season.

 

[Kernow Yellow]

Nobody is falling over themselves are they? And, as the previous poster points out, it clearly isn't the only difference?

And it's [checks top of page] the Gary Rowett thread, so a logical place to discuss his failings without getting sidetracked by too much Bloomfield whataboutery (though admittedly I've been dragged into that by replies to my original post).