Ex-Staff Gary Rowett

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1.Gary Rowett

Position: Head Coach
Nationality: England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
Departed: 23rd December 2025 | Departed Posts: 1st Post
Previous Clubs: Birmingham City (Interim), Millwall, Stoke City, Derby County, Birmingham City, Burton Albion
Instagram: garyrowett1
 
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Hey it’s 2025, all manner of lifestyles are embraced.
Seems a little too adventurous for risk-averse Rowett though. He’s a socks on, lights off missionary man. Then a cup of tea and a nice cool-down jog after 😉
And then you have to come in and mop up the mess!
 
If Rowett got a big pay off at United, it would feel immoral if he walked back into a job so soon and banked that pay off.
For all the good work he did last season, I strongly suspect he gave up this season and was quite happy to be sacked.
It was all too cringily amicable when he left. “I gave Ed a big hug”. Spare me.
Just my opinion,
 
If Rowett got a big pay off at United, it would feel immoral if he walked back into a job so soon and banked that pay off.
For all the good work he did last season, I strongly suspect he gave up this season and was quite happy to be sacked.
It was all too cringily amicable when he left. “I gave Ed a big hug”. Spare me.
Just my opinion,

That isn’t how the pay off will work. He’ll be paid his severance package incrementally, most probably monthly, until such time he finds alternative employment.

He will not have got one big 6 figure lump sum.
 
If Rowett got a big pay off at United, it would feel immoral if he walked back into a job so soon and banked that pay off.
For all the good work he did last season, I strongly suspect he gave up this season and was quite happy to be sacked.
It was all too cringily amicable when he left. “I gave Ed a big hug”. Spare me.
Just my opinion,
Immoral? If his contract said in it that he got X amount if sacked before the end of his contract then the club have to pay it to him. The club agreed the contract.
 
That isn’t how the pay off will work. He’ll be paid his severance package incrementally, most probably monthly, until such time he finds alternative employment.

He will not have got one big 6 figure lump sum.
You would be suprised with this one!
 
Immoral? If his contract said in it that he got X amount if sacked before the end of his contract then the club have to pay it to him. The club agreed the contract.

Agreed.

1) When you are in relegation trouble and want to appoint a new manager quickly then you don't get to dictate all of the terms, it's a negotiation which ends in a contract. Managers, agents and their lawyers know that the job is far from secure.

2) When you are in relegation trouble and want to sack a manager then it depends on the termination clauses in the contract. See 1).

The termination arrangements might be pre-agreed and in the contract, that's the grown up thing to do. Otherwise you end up negotiating in a hurry, when you are in trouble with a run of games coming up and needing to hire a replacement.

Recent history suggests that managers now force the club's hand - Forest, Man Utd, Oxford?

The lesson is don't sign a contract if you can't afford the terms in it.
 
Agreed.

1) When you are in relegation trouble and want to appoint a new manager quickly then you don't get to dictate all of the terms, it's a negotiation which ends in a contract. Managers, agents and their lawyers know that the job is far from secure.

2) When you are in relegation trouble and want to sack a manager then it depends on the termination clauses in the contract. See 1).

The termination arrangements might be pre-agreed and in the contract, that's the grown up thing to do. Otherwise you end up negotiating in a hurry, when you are in trouble with a run of games coming up and needing to hire a replacement.

Recent history suggests that managers now force the club's hand - Forest, Man Utd, Oxford?

The lesson is don't sign a contract if you can't afford the terms in it.
And I’d add that the price of a compensation package is insignificant in relation to the revenue drop down to lge1 that we were facing at the time he was appointed last season so you could argue it was a reasonable bit of business.
 
Immoral? If his contract said in it that he got X amount if sacked before the end of his contract then the club have to pay it to him. The club agreed the contract.
Maybe immoral is the wrong word.
I think Rowett is a wily campaigner and spotted naivety in the oxford ranks, and took advantage.
The hugging Ed Waldron thing sounded weak on Ed’s part.
If Rowett gets paid out in instalments until he gets a new job, that is fair enough . If it’s lump sum, we’ve been played a bit there.
 
Maybe immoral is the wrong word.
I think Rowett is a wily campaigner and spotted naivety in the oxford ranks, and took advantage.
The hugging Ed Waldron thing sounded weak on Ed’s part.
If Rowett gets paid out in instalments until he gets a new job, that is fair enough . If it’s lump sum, we’ve been played a bit there.
Sounds like a bit of a reach to me tbh.
 
Maybe immoral is the wrong word.
I think Rowett is a wily campaigner and spotted naivety in the oxford ranks, and took advantage.
The hugging Ed Waldron thing sounded weak on Ed’s part.
If Rowett gets paid out in instalments until he gets a new job, that is fair enough . If it’s lump sum, we’ve been played a bit there.
But at the end of the day you don't know!
 
Maybe immoral is the wrong word.
I think Rowett is a wily campaigner and spotted naivety in the oxford ranks, and took advantage.
The hugging Ed Waldron thing sounded weak on Ed’s part.
If Rowett gets paid out in instalments until he gets a new job, that is fair enough . If it’s lump sum, we’ve been played a bit there.
How have we been played? The club write the contract and agree to it.
 
How have we been played? The club write the contract and agree to it.
Legally and contractually - not at all.
I think Gary gave up on us. I don’t think his heart was fully in it after the summer tour. I think he should have walked before the season started. Instead he exited the club with money in his pocket and his reputation intact, but leaving the club in a poor position.
And I think if you softened Gary up with a few beers and asked him about oxford he’d smile and say - nice people, bit naive.
 
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Legally and contractually - not at all.
I think Gary gave up on us. I don’t think his heart was fully in it after the summer tour. I think he should have walked before the season started. Instead he exited the club with money in his pocket and his reputation intact.
And I think if you softened Gary up with a few beers and asked him about oxford he’d smile and say - nice people, bit naive.
Which is true, we do have some very naive people at the club. Look at how they were happy to just pay up Moore even though they were looking to sell him at the start of the summer.
I don’t begrudge his attitude changing after the summer, the tour was a shambles, the transfer business ended up being a shambles and it didn’t exactly help him prepare properly for a championship season.
I don’t have any issue of him walking away with his reputation intact either after keeping us up last season.
 
Which is true, we do have some very naive people at the club. Look at how they were happy to just pay up Moore even though they were looking to sell him at the start of the summer.
I don’t begrudge his attitude changing after the summer, the tour was a shambles, the transfer business ended up being a shambles and it didn’t exactly help him prepare properly for a championship season.
I don’t have any issue of him walking away with his reputation intact either after keeping us up last season.
Moore - yes, that was very hard to reconcile with.
I do wonder if Rowett saw how that played out and thought “I’ll have a bit of that”.
Like you , I don’t begrudge Gary . He’s seasoned - last season that counted for us, this season against us imo.
His sacking felt a bit….weak, on the club’s part.
But anyway, happy with the new manager. Possibly a month or six late but there you go.
 
Which is true, we do have some very naive people at the club. Look at how they were happy to just pay up Moore even though they were looking to sell him at the start of the summer.
I don’t begrudge his attitude changing after the summer, the tour was a shambles, the transfer business ended up being a shambles and it didn’t exactly help him prepare properly for a championship season.
I don’t have any issue of him walking away with his reputation intact either after keeping us up last season.
You’ve actually helped me get to the true source of my frustration - that someone with zero gravitas could be given such a prominent role . Although I’m sure ed , and others , are good people
 
I am a cyclist.

Like everything else there's a majority who act sensibly and then there's a few who quite happily choose to cycle down commuter roads at commuter time with huge tailbacks, jump lights etc.

I don't like them!

I was joking, when I lived in Oxford I was a cyclist to get to work as it was practical and cheap, not now as it doesn't really work where I live but if I lived in a city that would be the way I got around.
 
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