Flags tomorrow?
- Thread starter Ox4Eva
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TailsWeWin
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
So have the flag guys now left for ever? A few questions:
Is it because of the attitude of one man (Mixter)?
Have they decided to ‘not support Oxford’ because of their treatment by management?
Do they think removal of the flags helps the team’s performance?
Are they grumpy because we lost 7-0?
Are they as fickle as they are beginning to seem?
I appreciate that putting up flags on a match day is a time-consuming event, but is it all too much effort now?
Genuinely interested....
Is it because of the attitude of one man (Mixter)?
Have they decided to ‘not support Oxford’ because of their treatment by management?
Do they think removal of the flags helps the team’s performance?
Are they grumpy because we lost 7-0?
Are they as fickle as they are beginning to seem?
I appreciate that putting up flags on a match day is a time-consuming event, but is it all too much effort now?
Genuinely interested....
Blox21
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
If kassam likes the idea then surely that's a bloody good reason NOT to do it .
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Well that’s the thing, people moan about the stadium, then when he lets us make it feel more like Home u get comments like that. U want colour on match days, u have to have the owners permission, it won’t take 2 hours to put up and take down every week, there is no health and safety or stewarding issue.
The ultras designed and created most of the banners themselves, could always let them paint it.
WuTang
Level: Yemi Odubade
(158 Apps, 31 Gls)
Could it be pathetic posts on internet forums questioning why they bother?
Genuinely interested...
TailsWeWin
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Very interested in why you’ve chosen not to reply to the questions about the motivation for removing the flags.
TailsWeWin
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
I’m all for it!
West Oxon U’s
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
- Year of First Game
- 1975
Do the Ultras need a cuddle ?
WuTang
Level: Yemi Odubade
(158 Apps, 31 Gls)
Apologies. My best guess is that they've now become Cheltenham Town fans due to the huge emotional turmoil of a 7-0 defeat. Or if the flags don't enter the stadium, they don't either.
Sarcastic answers to sarcastic questions aside, the new head of security has obviously made things 10x harder for them going by the unneccessary ticket checks. Club treatment hasn't helped either judging by previous meetings that were posted on here. I've hardly heard great things about Ian Mixter from various sources either, from history to his current position.
All this "throwing toys out the pram" and "do they need a cuddle" is more childish than anyting the Ultras could be accused of. They're mostly in their 20s now and would probably be more than happy to have a pint over it in the Blackbird on a matchday. Even the largest Ultras groups in the world won't need to put up as many banners on a matchday as Oxford do for that back wall. Let's not forget they only started doing it because no other fans were bringing flags to games and doing it themselves. Stewards will allow any fan to climb over there and hang a flag up, yet 0 do. Lincoln Yellows flag is the only different one I've seen up there, actually, so fair play to him for helping out.
The mural on the wall is the best (and thankfully constructive) idea I've seen so far. Some permanent yellow in place so the Ultras could focus on displays in a small area each game instead of putting all of their efforts into hanging banners every matchday morning?
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So let’s get it sorting, it’s starting to turn into more about willy waving than flag waving. I get the arguments from both sides. There was a chance to discuss this a week ago, no one from the ultras turned up. I’ve seen it said it was because it was a long way on a week night when there wasn’t anyone important there. Well that’s not likely to find a solution, there was someone important there, a new MD who like others was very appreciative of the colour the ultras add to games, a man whos initial task is to find out and put right reducing crowds and atmosphere. So actually it was a bloody good opportunity to put the case across. Not to mention he’s also mr mixters direct manager up the chain of command. Now the new area was never going to work instantly from an ultras point of view, taking time to build and work on, couldn’t it just be that is the same from the clubs point of view? Sorting out the hard ticket checks isn’t a major issue, people have offered help to do just that. So would it not be easier to just sort it and find a compromise (they ain’t just going to let u do as u wish) and move on for the good of the club from both sides
dog
Level: Billy Beechers
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Aside from the flags issue. I can understand folks rather having a pint before the game. But the lack of singing last few games, what's the reason for that? Have they seriously become so disillusioned they no longer attend games at all... because that would be a great shame for everyone.
Kamal
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
That would involve people getting into the ground early in the morning..
eraser
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
The club had two fantastic seasons prior to this one. Cup runs, Wembley, A420 derbies, exciting young players..... then................. it all went flat. Manager left, players left, performances were less than exciting, early exits from cups and takeover talk. The club will recover.. Us fans are the club we just need to pick ourselves up after coming off the adrenaline rush and rebuild the support as the management rebuild the squad! Keep the faith!
Do you think ogb would allow
KASSAM IS A c**t in ten foot yellow and blue letters. I don’t mind going in early and doing it, I’ll even supply the paint.
KASSAM IS A c**t in ten foot yellow and blue letters. I don’t mind going in early and doing it, I’ll even supply the paint.
Ox4Eva
Level: John Aldridge
(141 Apps, 90 Gls)
No, you just enter the ground at the normal time and hang you flag up. It's not rocket science.
Bigfella72
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Not really if everyone put up there own flag as it would only take a few minutes to do so
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The excuse of no flags impacting the singing is embarrassing imo. It’s also got to the point where I think the ultras are kicking up a fuss for the sake of it.
Like Dave said, they had their chance to attend the OxVox meeting to have their views heard but chose not to.
Maybe a few older heads in the east stand could show the ultras how an atmosphere can be created without the need for every squad player to have their own song.
Like Dave said, they had their chance to attend the OxVox meeting to have their views heard but chose not to.
Maybe a few older heads in the east stand could show the ultras how an atmosphere can be created without the need for every squad player to have their own song.
uptheus
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Just a shame it didn't last more than two seasons, especially after having 20+ poor seasons. I think we've had our fair share of shiteness to have more than 2 seasons of glory (ish) seasons.
I guess the whole take over situation had had a major effect on that, let's just hope the whole thai thingy has been put to bed, but I fear that's not the case.
Kamal
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Well the Ultras normally have to do it around 10am. Definitely not anytime after 12. The club don't allow it. So why would anyone who wants to put their flags up be different? Surely that's prioritising one group of supporters over another, which Mixter said he definitely wouldn't do.
carefreeoufc
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Kamal is pretty much spot on there. Initially (and I’m talking 2011ish) there weren’t any issues with putting the flags up whenever.
Generally speaking three of us went to the pub and then left about 2ish to put them up. Possibly 3 years ago or so we were asked to go in early so as not to encourage other people from climbing over the back wall.
I don’t know what Mixter etc. are like now but I imagine they’re probably enforcing this a little more heavily.
I’d be surprised if any of the security let anyone put a flag up on the back wall before kick off. If they do let you, bring some good black tape as it leaks down the back wall.
Generally speaking three of us went to the pub and then left about 2ish to put them up. Possibly 3 years ago or so we were asked to go in early so as not to encourage other people from climbing over the back wall.
I don’t know what Mixter etc. are like now but I imagine they’re probably enforcing this a little more heavily.
I’d be surprised if any of the security let anyone put a flag up on the back wall before kick off. If they do let you, bring some good black tape as it leaks down the back wall.
MJB
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
What’s stopping these older heads exactly? Too busy lambasting the youth in some cases it seems.
Shame really as football is in all honesty a young man’s game in terms of it meaning more. As we get older, it naturally becomes a bit less important for most (I’d hope) as priorities and lifestyles change.
The new generation of fans deserve support and encouragement - not sarcasm and blockages as others seem quick to deploy.
WuTang
Level: Yemi Odubade
(158 Apps, 31 Gls)
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The ultras (pathetic word by the way) are a bunch of spoilt jumped brats who have far to much to say for themselves.
The display is apt to the general feeling about the club.
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Sorry [emoji6]
Craig
Level: Jack Midson
(68 Apps, 15 Gls)
It’s an adopted name, used by many other similar groups, not a name/term they coined themselves. Don’t quite understand why people get so uptight about it.
I think some of the posters on here are worried that they may be enjoying themselves in a way they (the whingers) can't.
Kamal
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Would be interesting to see how many people here have tried to start chants or improve the atmosphere in any way..
