Far Right Banned by Facebook
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Level: Les Phillips
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
Nice sweeping generalisation there.
We have to do unconscious bias training at work as the "number of BAME employee`s at a senior level doesn`t reflect the population".
My mindset (despite the training!) is that we employ the best person for the job irrespective of their protected characteristics.
I care not a jot if DA is black, female or a Labour MP .............. she is a 100% "post Turtle" who got the post because of her characteristics not despite them.
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Or are you looking for racism, so automatically attune any criticism as racist by default as a consequence? If you have a firm belief we live in a "racist society", every criticism of a minority is racist by default to confirm your own bias. Rather than saying Abbott was wrong with her comments about Mao, her sums were wrong again, people are called "racist" for pointing it out. Or saying Lammy's comments about Stacey Dooley were unfair, it's "racist" to criticise him.
Until the hoards step back from their binary perception of racism, mis-gendering or whatever they want to be offended by next, their very cause will not be taken seriously by the masses. Because all they do is label people in the same way they complain other people are.
Diane Abbott is an idiot because she makes silly comments and is a massive hypocrite. The same as Mark Francois. The same as Boris Johnson. The same as Angus Robertson. The same as Jeremy Corbyn. Etc.
Village-Yellow
Level: Steve Basham
(189 Apps, 51 Gls)
Interesting points.
I guess firstly I have only ever considered the reason that DA gets so much attention is because she seems to make so many huge gaffs. Certainly I have never ever considered this level of attention/criticism to be a racist thing.
Maybe you remember Spitting Image... Comedy gold as far as I was concerned and again it sent up anyone and everyone who was famous in the day. Certainly no racism angle there either from what I recall, but the sad thing today is that maybe many people would look to find such an angle... A bit like some of the comments in this thread.
As to your final point, you mention about picking up habits of racial prejudice. I guess that can work both ways too. How many times do we see headlines about someone not getting a job or there being an ethnic imbalance in employment and the racism card is thrown in. Is it racism or are there just better equipped candidates?
It’s easy for people to be a racist or become a racist but at the same time it’s easy to feel aggrieved about situations because of ones colour when the reality could just as feasibly have nothing what so ever to do with it.
Basically, what I am saying is that if I didn’t succeed in getting my dream job or if I had the p**s taken out of me, or if I got arrested, I can’t throw in the “is it because I’m white” card whereas if you are black it seems that you can.
Winchesterox
Level: Ricardinho
(39 Apps, 3 Gls)
Abbott penitent but mojito goes down well - The Transport Network
www.transport-network.co.uk
Golden Dr Otto
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Caveat: I’ve only read the first page of this thread.
I’d agree with Tony W on this. Suppression of any thought or voice, regardless of how insane we believe it, is a dangerous precedent. People were burnt in history for believing the earth to be spherical or for suggesting God didn’t exist. To this day there are communities who are hell bent on suppressing the emancipation of women or other causes we would deem reasonable, and their first action and port of call is to threaten or shut down counter conversation.
True human progress, and evolution of thought and ideas, comes from having genuine challenging conversation. If we believe in our ideals they’ll be strengthened by dialogue and challenge. Shut down the opposing opinion and we’ll forget our reasons for our ideals, fail to evolve them, and also give a a shadowy strength to certain groups by the myth they then become.
We absolutely should not tolerate the government or corporations managing the conversations we permit. The irony is of course it’s an extremist trait to shut down conversation as part of its totalitarianism so you’re advocating one of their principles.
I’d agree with Tony W on this. Suppression of any thought or voice, regardless of how insane we believe it, is a dangerous precedent. People were burnt in history for believing the earth to be spherical or for suggesting God didn’t exist. To this day there are communities who are hell bent on suppressing the emancipation of women or other causes we would deem reasonable, and their first action and port of call is to threaten or shut down counter conversation.
True human progress, and evolution of thought and ideas, comes from having genuine challenging conversation. If we believe in our ideals they’ll be strengthened by dialogue and challenge. Shut down the opposing opinion and we’ll forget our reasons for our ideals, fail to evolve them, and also give a a shadowy strength to certain groups by the myth they then become.
We absolutely should not tolerate the government or corporations managing the conversations we permit. The irony is of course it’s an extremist trait to shut down conversation as part of its totalitarianism so you’re advocating one of their principles.
chuckbert
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Anyone interested in what unconscious biases they might harbour would do well to try some of these implicit association tests at Harvard. https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/
I found it a bit revealing and challenging.
I found it a bit revealing and challenging.
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
Cassox doesn’t even know anything about football, never mind grown up politics! He doesn’t rate Jake Wright. I think he might be one of those young hard cases that hang around on that mound by the away exit after games.
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Like this?
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
"Far-right surges on terrible night for mainstream conservatives
Sunday’s vote was a humiliation for the People’s party (PP), the traditional conservative party of government in Spain, as the anti-feminist, anti-immigration Vox party won 24 seats in parliament, the most significant victory by a far-right party since the end of Franco’s dictatorship. PP’s leader, Pablo Casado, admitted the election results were “very bad” after the number of seats in parliament held by his party more than halved from 137 in 2016’s vote to 66."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...lls-for-third-time-in-four-years-live-updates
Just putting it out there....
Sunday’s vote was a humiliation for the People’s party (PP), the traditional conservative party of government in Spain, as the anti-feminist, anti-immigration Vox party won 24 seats in parliament, the most significant victory by a far-right party since the end of Franco’s dictatorship. PP’s leader, Pablo Casado, admitted the election results were “very bad” after the number of seats in parliament held by his party more than halved from 137 in 2016’s vote to 66."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...lls-for-third-time-in-four-years-live-updates
Just putting it out there....
werthersoriginal
Level: James Constable
(280 Apps, 106 Gls)
Yes it’s worrying. There are some evil people out there plus a lot who arent too bright and are easy to manipulate . You see them here, they think Boris is a man of the people and Rees Mogg is on their side
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
The flip side of that sweeping statement is that their vote counts as much as that of anyone else.
If politicians didn`t reach out to those extremes who would represent them?
Its very easy to point at those in the public eye and say "they are conning you" but show me a politician who isn`t.
Politicians that have stuck to their principals over years or decades are very,very few and far between.
Is representative democracy dead in the water? Should we change to a more public form of deciding....like a referendum?
Golden Dr Otto
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Why can’t we just let Facebook choose for us?
Lazy tues afternoon got me thinking, wonder if i went on a diet of sprouts, eggs n beans and pulses i could brew up a fart so noxious, foul and toxic that it could stand as a ukip candidate in the eu elections? 
