Fan's View - Wigan

#2
Couldn’t argue with any of that. I’ve just watched the goals on Goal Rush and we were worse than I remember. After 50 minutes yesterday I was hoping the Referee would end it all. It was like being punch drunk. Pitiful.
 
#3
You have captured what every sensible United fan is thinking today Paul. How long our Chairman lets this go on of course is a different matter.
 

Manorlounger

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#4
You can see it, we can see it, the game is up for Clotet. The trouble is, can Eales be bothered to do anything about it? Will the board bite the bullet and demand that he do something about it? Don't anyone hold your breath.
 

bazzer9461

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#5
You have captured what every sensible United fan is thinking today Paul. How long our Chairman lets this go on of course is a different matter.
Didn’t know we had one, he’s been bloody quiet this season, I thinking he is seeing what he can get from player sales and then go without even a mention
 
#7
I appreciate your "I'm baffled" list (of can someone explain and why) could go on and on, and on, but you could add - How does Tiandelli start ahead of Canice Carroll?
 

Osleroad

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#8
At least the Munch visual gave me a chuckle in these dark times..at least the players will have to suffer a night in the Medway towns!
 
#10
Thanks for your report, even when it's difficult to get through. As someone who works in Wigan, all I can say is thank God that I don't have to go in until 2nd of January!
 

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#11
I appreciate your "I'm baffled" list (of can someone explain and why) could go on and on, and on, but you could add - How does Tiandelli start ahead of Canice Carroll?
I would say that is because Canice has been poor in his past 2-3 appearances.

He had a shocker v Rotherham and was very poor v Rochdale in the first half.

Having said all of that, I would play him v Gillingham. We need those who are going to battle. I would play Ledson, Carroll and Obiks.
 

Foley

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#12
Kind of thank you Paul.

A load of rubbish is spouted on here in the matchday thread and I do have to sense check my reading of games with what you say.

I HATE the modern way of sacking managers all of the time (Monk at Leeds/ Middlesborough anybody?) . But Pep really should not have done that interview. He seems a genuinely nice guy and is trying to play decent football. But .... accept that we had our worse home defeat and threw in the towel please?

I know that Wigan/ Blackburn have a ridiculously better budget than us. Wigan will walk the league (I would not be at all surprised if they win it by 7-10 points ahead of Blackburn). But no excuses that they have such a bigger budget. Had we competed and lost 2-0 then kind of fine?

Incidentally Cook is a good manager. Chesterfield were excellent under him (they stuffed us 3-0 under Wilder???). He took them and pompey up from League 2. He also showed a little class when telling his player to kick the ball out after a ridiculous decision by the Ref.
 

Paul B

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#13
Kind of thank you Paul.

A load of rubbish is spouted on here in the matchday thread and I do have to sense check my reading of games with what you say.

I HATE the modern way of sacking managers all of the time (Monk at Leeds/ Middlesborough anybody?) . But Pep really should not have done that interview. He seems a genuinely nice guy and is trying to play decent football. But .... accept that we had our worse home defeat and threw in the towel please?

I know that Wigan/ Blackburn have a ridiculously better budget than us. Wigan will walk the league (I would not be at all surprised if they win it by 7-10 points ahead of Blackburn). But no excuses that they have such a bigger budget. Had we competed and lost 2-0 then kind of fine?

Incidentally Cook is a good manager. Chesterfield were excellent under him (they stuffed us 3-0 under Wilder???). He took them and pompey up from League 2. He also showed a little class when telling his player to kick the ball out after a ridiculous decision by the Ref.
Agree about Cook. A very good manager particularly at this level. Telling his player to kick the ball out was indeed class but as I heard many people say at the time and at half time - very easy to do when you are 3-0 up.

I too hate the knee-jerk sacking of managers. I'm not yet got quite as far as calling for Pep's head. Like you I think he is a genuinely nice bloke. But if I let that influence my view on the direction I think he's taking us in I wouldn't actually be giving an honest opinion. We've had some pretty poor performance and absolute shockers - Cheltenham, Port Vale and now Wigan which was just about off the scale. And we're only half way through the season. Is that a reason to keep him or get rid?
 
#14
I am usually an advocate of sticking with managers but I don’t think we will get anywhere under this guy.
I have said on another thread that it’s worrying that he may be allowed to bring players in in January because he will waste it.
 
#15
Great review and cannot help wondering where we go next, Pep seems clueless, poor selection, formation and signings all poor too.

Want MAPP back please, at least he had an idea what we were doing and his signings were solid.

Monk mentioned, but would he come here and is he any better? Frustrated with my club and Earles... is he still chairman and why has he gone quiet?
 
#16
Excellent summary, Paul. Speaking as one of the founders of the old fanzine, Raging Bull, it's a pleasure to see the good work you are doing with Rage Online.
I'm finding it difficult to get the players' lack of pride out of my mind. As for Clotet, maybe he had half a season's worth of novelty value to get us into the top half of the table, but Saturday was the sight (and later the sound) of a man hitting the buffers. Hard.
 

HeyMcAleny

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#18
Clotet has been very naive with that interview. As a manager you have to manage fans as well as players - either group can make life difficult for you.

You also have to manage your chairman, and I don't think Clotet has done that very well at all.

I think as fans we are putting too much of this on Clotet, Eales has some questions to answer.
 

Paul B

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#19
Clotet has been very naive with that interview. As a manager you have to manage fans as well as players - either group can make life difficult for you.

You also have to manage your chairman, and I don't think Clotet has done that very well at all.

I think as fans we are putting too much of this on Clotet, Eales has some questions to answer.
Of course people would like to know what DE is up to but .... Pep has had a (supposedly) competitive budget and it is Pep who has brought most of this squad in. It is Pep who has them playing the way they are at the moment. Often very ineffectually. It is Pep who decided to start with Rothwell and Ledson on the bench on Saturday.
 
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