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Fan's View - Rotherham away

Crikey, we are not doing well currently but let’s not talk ourselves into relegation.

There is no way on earth that this team should be near the bottom 4.

We will pull well clear.

And he said ... tempting fate .. feel free to bookmark.
Tim, only someone who was not there would feel able to say what you've just said.
If we show that we have some fight in us against Argyle I reserve the right to revise my opinion once more. But I've seen so much that cannot be ignored thus far.
Please tell me how we'll pull clear. it will make me feel a whole lot more relaxed.
How do we plug the gaps in the defence?
Strike force?
Etc.
 
Tim, only someone who was not there would feel able to say what you've just said.
If we show that we have some fight in us against Argyle I reserve the right to revise my opinion once more. But I've seen so much that cannot be ignored thus far.
Please tell me how we'll pull clear. it will make me feel a whole lot more relaxed.
How do we plug the gaps in the defence?
Strike force?
Etc.
True, I wasn’t there.

But I was at Charlton. I was at
Walsall. I was at the Bury game. All matches we should have won.

We have ability. We will appoint a new manager. We will get players returning from injury.

We shouldn’t talk ourselves into a blue funk.

We will avoid the bottom 4. By a distance.
 
It feels to me as though the loanees have just not worked out, and have instead made matters worse. IBR in particular is nowhere near good enough.
 
Tim, only someone who was not there would feel able to say what you've just said.
If we show that we have some fight in us against Argyle I reserve the right to revise my opinion once more. But I've seen so much that cannot be ignored thus far.
Please tell me how we'll pull clear. it will make me feel a whole lot more relaxed.
How do we plug the gaps in the defence?
Strike force?
Etc.
Its a good job that we may need only 3 wins to stay up, as if it was anymore, wed have no chance.
 
True, I wasn’t there.

But I was at Charlton. I was at
Walsall. I was at the Bury game. All matches we should have won.

We have ability. We will appoint a new manager. We will get players returning from injury.

We shouldn’t talk ourselves into a blue funk.

We will avoid the bottom 4. By a distance.

Should have won - but we have a great ability to not win them. Not even draw them. But lose them. Charlton was a massive exception to the rule. We've been awful in many games. Could you be in denial?

I hope you are right, obviously, regards avoiding the bottom 4 by some distance. On current evidence that is a great leap of faith.
 
Crikey, we are not doing well currently but let’s not talk ourselves into relegation.

There is no way on earth that this team should be near the bottom 4.

We will pull well clear.

And he said ... tempting fate .. feel free to bookmark.
I admire your optimism. Where are the points actually coming from? We have the best teams in the league yet to play away, and a few tricky fixtures elsewhere. We won’t beat Plymouth with the form they’re in; we all know what happens at Northampton every year, and so it goes on. In a couple of weeks our confidence will be shot and the youngsters will be looking forward to returning to their parent clubs. Ledson, Rothwell and Eastwood will have their heads elsewhere.
Blimey, I’ve just read this back to myself. Where’s the kitchen knife?
 
Crikey, we are not doing well currently but let’s not talk ourselves into relegation.

There is no way on earth that this team should be near the bottom 4.

We will pull well clear.

And he said ... tempting fate .. feel free to bookmark.
Tim, only someone who was not there would feel able to say what you've just said.
If we show that we have some fight in us against Argyle I reserve the right to revise my opinion once more. But I've seen so much that cannot be ignored thus far.
Please tell me how we'll pull clear. it will make me feel a whole lot more relaxed.
How do we plug the gaps in the defence?
Strike force?
Etc.

I think the key point is we’re not in a relegation battle, so we don’t need to pull clear, we are clear. And because of that we need to do far less than those currently occupying those positions to remain clear. We need 3 wins from 14. Take our last very poor 5 games. We picked up 3 points, continue that terrible form and we’re safe. We can even worsen if those down there continue their equally poor form.
 
I have not written this season off as one where relegation is a certainty. But those who say we'll stay up - a) which matches will provide the required points? b) what will change / how will it change to ensure we don't let in 2 or 3 goals every game c) - same regarding striking potency?
Don't lose on Saturday and I'll feel more confident. But if we do lose it will be, yes well Plymouth are a good side on a good run so nothing to worry about here.
 
We’ll do it . Easily.

You'd hope so - and logically it would be so. But watching us recently, it is very hard to be quite so sanguine. I am also not sure that the squad contains enough of anything much that a new manager could make a silk purse out of this particular sow's ear.

Will I get cramp if I keep everything crossed until May?
 
I have not written this season off as one where relegation is a certainty. But those who say we'll stay up - a) which matches will provide the required points? b) what will change / how will it change to ensure we don't let in 2 or 3 goals every game c) - same regarding striking potency?
Don't lose on Saturday and I'll feel more confident. But if we do lose it will be, yes well Plymouth are a good side on a good run so nothing to worry about here.

Charlton are a good side on a good run. Football doesn’t work like that. Ever put accumulators on? It’s hard enough to predict the results on five games on a match day. Let alone 14 matchdays and 24 teams results. Even people with mr methvens footballing knowledge have predicted wrong outcomes. Who would have thought last season we would have picked up enough to win the last 6 was it.

It’s possible but unlikely we will get relegated. If we do we do. And as someone once said - we go again
 
Charlton are a good side on a good run. Football doesn’t work like that. Ever put accumulators on? It’s hard enough to predict the results on five games on a match day. Let alone 14 matchdays and 24 teams results. Even people with mr methvens footballing knowledge have predicted wrong outcomes. Who would have thought last season we would have picked up enough to win the last 6 was it.

It’s possible but unlikely we will get relegated. If we do we do. And as someone once said - we go again
Absolutely. But how many Charltons / Peterboroughs / Plymouths etc v Wigans / Cheltenhams / Vales / etc. Direction of travel and all that.
If an outcome was a given would we still go? Win, lose or draw?
No one who thinks we'll be okay has explained how - other than we only need x points, we've unexpectedly beaten Charlton in the past etc.
A key issue is getting confidence back - who will do that? Faz? New manager? The players themselves, most of whom won't be here next season?
 
I was at the game on Tuesday and my biggest concern was how disjointed it all was. There were too many players pointing to others about where they should be BUT not doing their own job first. Players, especially fullbacks, MUST block crosses. Too often, they were not close enough. I don't know if this is because of a fear of getting skinned (lack of pace)?

I hate using the phrase "back to basics" - they should never be left behind in the first place.
 
Charlton are a good side on a good run. Football doesn’t work like that. Ever put accumulators on? It’s hard enough to predict the results on five games on a match day. Let alone 14 matchdays and 24 teams results. Even people with mr methvens footballing knowledge have predicted wrong outcomes. Who would have thought last season we would have picked up enough to win the last 6 was it.

It’s possible but unlikely we will get relegated. If we do we do. And as someone once said - we go again
Absolutely. But how many Charltons / Peterboroughs / Plymouths etc v Wigans / Cheltenhams / Vales / etc. Direction of travel and all that.
If an outcome was a given would we still go? Win, lose or draw?
No one who thinks we'll be okay has explained how - other than we only need x points, we've unexpectedly beaten Charlton in the past etc.
A key issue is getting confidence back - who will do that? Faz? New manager? The players themselves, most of whom won't be here next season?

Confidence yes , but also we only need to cut out some individual errors to gain a lot more points. And as it happens yes I would still go, funnily enough I didn’t go to Charlton expecting a win. I don’t to every home game expecting us to win, I go to watch the football. And one thing I’ve learnt especially when putting bets on is it very rarely goes the way u think it will (obviously that’s not great with me thinking we will stay up) but oxford have always done poor against the poor teams, and got shock results against the better. I don’t think 3 wins is at all unlikely. But even more so than that, I can’t see see teams who have the same or worse recent form than us, picking up 6/7/8 wins they need to over take us
 
Crikey, we are not doing well currently but let’s not talk ourselves into relegation.

There is no way on earth that this team should be near the bottom 4.

We will pull well clear.

And he said ... tempting fate .. feel free to bookmark.

We all said the same in 2006. We never thought it possible and that was two teams being relegated. There are four slots this time around.

What a dreary, but utterly necessary, read, Paul. Heaven knows where the motivation, impetus and confidence is going to come from. Having to play the teams on good runs of form isn't helpful. I'm not even particularly confident of us getting anything against Northampton or AFC Wimbledon when we come to play them either ...
 
We all said the same in 2006. We never thought it possible and that was two teams being relegated. There are four slots this time around.

What a dreary, but utterly necessary, read, Paul. Heaven knows where the motivation, impetus and confidence is going to come from. Having to play the teams on good runs of form isn't helpful. I'm not even particularly confident of us getting anything against Northampton or AFC Wimbledon when we come to play them either ...
Judging by the last two games, especially the home game to Gasss, Cobblers and Wombles will probably give our players the rough em up treatment (as usual), given both having a liking for the physical approach. Basically it likely OUFC will get beaten up on the pitch, unless the whole squad toughen up n fight fire with fire
 
I've just looked up the "current form table" - last 6 games Portsmouth, Scunthorpe, Donny, Fleetwood, Rochdale, Bradford & MK Dons have all gained fewer points than us. Continuing to get on average a point a game as we have done in those 6 games will see us end up on 55. So I've suddenly become all contented. (Or perhaps not)
 
Paul, agree with every word. Really disappointed with the two lads from Man City, they seem totally out of their depth. Rotherham could easily have scored 5 or 6. Our defence make it so easy for the opposition I can't see us keeping a clean sheet in any game. After Plymouth, there are 3 vital games against Northampton, Fleetwood and Wimbledon, the performance, and points haul, in these games will set the scene for the final 10 games of the season.
 
Yes we have had a shocking run, but you are right. Even having had a shocking run, we have done better than 5-6 teams.

I reckon people need to look at the League table. In all likelihood Rochdale and Bury are pretty doomed. I reckon MK are in deep deep trouble ) 30 points in 31 games and have had the new manager for a few games now). So even to get 50 points they need 20 points from 15 games (very unlikely based on their performance to date). And yes they could turn it round but their last 5 games have one draw and FOUR DEFEATS. So they are on a worse run than OUFC.
Of the rest below us? AFCW are 7 points behind us and have LOST THEIR LAST 4. Fleetwood are five points behind us and have LOST THEIR LAST FOUR.

So sure we are looking poor (although we have played some of the form teams in the league (and Plymouth have won their last 4). But we have a fair few points cushion and there are some very poor teams below us (and they are a way behind us because they have not achieved many points so far).
 
If we were somehow able to win our next 3 games we would be 2 points down on last years tally in the 5 game blocks.
Cant see it myself though :(
 
Prior to the Rotherham game,I had us down as drawing 9 and losing 6.
Rotherham was one of the drawn games !
We need at least 10 points from 14 games.
I shall be cheering the team on at all of those games and currently am not having any sleepless nights over relegation.
Keep the faith
 
It's also worth remembering that despite our current form we have a much superior GD to most if not all of the teams below us although another couple of Wigans could change that. On current form I'm not hopeful of getting anything from Plymouth on Saturday and after that we will need to be on our mettle against Northampton; Fleetwood and Wimbledon who will be fighting for their existence in League 1. I can't see us being relegated but a big improvement on the way we are playing at the moment is required.
 
Why ?

It makes no difference if it’s Northampton or Blackburn. But could u point me to a run this season where we haven’t picked up enough points to be safe (which even then would rely on other teams doing much much better than they have managed all season.

The only thing is, we’re getting worse and disjointed. The young loanees don’t look good enough, we don’t have a fit recognised striker, both our midfield/defence you could drive a bus through and it’s a struggle to know what team to put together.

Who knows what’s really going to happen, we could go unbeaten for the rest of the season, but it’s looking more like we won’t win another game or at least the belief isn’t there.

All I do know is, when we galvanised as a fan base all believing the whole atmosphere was a lot more positive. Having said that, Darryl’s got a lot to answer for for the current state around the club.
 
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