Fan's View - Charlton Away
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Level: Callum O'Dowda
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Thanks as usual Paul . I didn't go to this game and so great to read your report.
Of course Barnsley were beaten by Charlton in Saturday. You were not hugely complementary about our performance at Rovers.
So it was a very good point. Draws at Sunderland, Southend and Charlton show that we can be competitive with some of the better teams in the league.
Like your mate I reckon Whyte has far more than just pace. On the basis that Callum is playing regularly in a team near the top of the Championship, I can see no reason why Whyte can't also but he needs another season at Oxford after this one first!!
Of course Barnsley were beaten by Charlton in Saturday. You were not hugely complementary about our performance at Rovers.
So it was a very good point. Draws at Sunderland, Southend and Charlton show that we can be competitive with some of the better teams in the league.
Like your mate I reckon Whyte has far more than just pace. On the basis that Callum is playing regularly in a team near the top of the Championship, I can see no reason why Whyte can't also but he needs another season at Oxford after this one first!!
Thanks Paul. I could not go so appreciate the insight. KR seemed frustrated with the team at the start of his Radio ox post match. It could be that he's as frustrated as us in that he knows the fast flowing stuff is in there somewhere but is not escaping often enough.
On your last point paul, why are smoke bombs still being thrown, apart from holding up the game, we, as a club are going to be punished, if that means docked points then whoever throws them might prefer a few weeks inside compared to what a few thousand oxford fans would do to them.
Manorlounger
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
This was one of those games that we wanted to put on our away day calendar but, falling on a Tuesday, work got in the way. I've already got a reputation at work for early finishes on Tuesdays so sadly, this fixture was missed. Shame, the train service (usually) from Liphook to Waterloo means a day out with drinks, a rare treat! Your mention of the Coal Hole brought back some memories of some heady "missions" with mates when I was still single and living in Oxford. (only a few mind you, mostly a blur!)
So, listening at home to Radox with a bottle of medicinal purpose, we groaned as the penalty went in and grew in frustration as the game went on.
The removal of Dickie was, in our view, most timely. His kicking the ball away on Saturday and his antics on Tuesday evening are a worry. Is this though something more symptomatic of the KR style of play? There seems to be a lot more, shall we say, dubious tactical action in our play?
Thanks for the quote, by the way, fame at last!
So, listening at home to Radox with a bottle of medicinal purpose, we groaned as the penalty went in and grew in frustration as the game went on.
The removal of Dickie was, in our view, most timely. His kicking the ball away on Saturday and his antics on Tuesday evening are a worry. Is this though something more symptomatic of the KR style of play? There seems to be a lot more, shall we say, dubious tactical action in our play?
Thanks for the quote, by the way, fame at last!
Paul B
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Idiots in the extreme who think that rules and laws do not apply to them. If we did have points docked they would be advised to leave the country.
Paul B
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
The other three pubs are all in the 2019 Good Beer Guide but not the Coal Hole. It was my first visit. I would though say the beer in there was as good as in any of the others. It was my mate who put that on the agenda as he used to have business meetings in there many many years ago.
Oldman159
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
Having walked out early at Pompey for the second season running, I decided not to go to away League games unless:
1. it was a new ground,
2. it was down the A420
3. We started winning.
So, I am grateful for your excellent reviews of the games. Keep up the good work, matey. i can only hope that the 3 conditions will be fulfilled soon....
Thanks
1. it was a new ground,
2. it was down the A420
3. We started winning.
So, I am grateful for your excellent reviews of the games. Keep up the good work, matey. i can only hope that the 3 conditions will be fulfilled soon....
Thanks
Ref 2. Do you want us to be relegated or them promoted?
Paul B
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Why not change 3. to "we stop losing".
TailsWeWin
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
Is this the one in The Strand?
Hi Paul, talking to you after the game I thought it might have been a cross but as soon as I saw the goal on Sky I was quite obviously wrong. As you say, you don't hit a cross that hard. For the record, I think he also has more than pace and he's young enough to learn. His movement is pretty good as well and he does get into positions to score (as well as hitting a good ball).
I can’t see a problem with having a player who is fast, athletic, direct and hard working myself, wish we had a few more like him.
Technical but sideways players are fashionable at the moment but we can’t afford good enough ones to affect games and achieve something at this level, i think the last 3 seasons have shown that, we would be better served finding fast, fit, strong, hungry and athletic players and turning them into an organised unit to try and achieve something in the third tier, he fits the bill for me.
Technical but sideways players are fashionable at the moment but we can’t afford good enough ones to affect games and achieve something at this level, i think the last 3 seasons have shown that, we would be better served finding fast, fit, strong, hungry and athletic players and turning them into an organised unit to try and achieve something in the third tier, he fits the bill for me.
Paul B
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
It is.
Paul B
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
I can't remember him being really exposed or chances created by Charlton due to him.
Individually there is still a bit of criticism about concerning our back 4 (possibly not Nelson) but as a unit they've not let in a goal from open play in 4 league games. They must be doing something right.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Agree with Paul on this.
Charlton apparently made few chances and were more dangerous going down our left.
Not conceding from open play in 4 games after being poor in defence generally this season suggests that the back 5 are doing their jobs.
Charlton apparently made few chances and were more dangerous going down our left.
Not conceding from open play in 4 games after being poor in defence generally this season suggests that the back 5 are doing their jobs.
Oldman159
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
jambon46
Level: Chris Maguire
(79 Apps, 22 Gls)
I think Mousinho playing just in front of them makes a massive difference, a very intelligent player, shame he got of stick last season from the fans probably didn't deserve most of it.
MJB
Level: Les Phillips
(224 Apps, 15 Gls)
Yep. A very canny player. Tried to play out from the back too often last season but it was clear he was being heavily instructed to do so. A very valuable player to have sitting in front of the centre backs - he’s surprisingly quick over short distances too.
tonto
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
mous very impressive. both ruffels and eastwood messed up for the pen but all in all everyone put a good shift in.
Would have given Ricky MOM for constantly trying to get things happening.KR did very well with the subs for a change. Smith is the one piece in the jigsaw that needs to get going.
Would have given Ricky MOM for constantly trying to get things happening.KR did very well with the subs for a change. Smith is the one piece in the jigsaw that needs to get going.
Wasn’t Mousinho a centre mid for most of his career before going to centre back relatively late? Seems a more natural position for him to me, never really convinced me at centre back, plus with him and Ruffles at the back you have two midfielders out of position.
My worry is if Nelson does leave in January, the plan will be to push Mous back into defence as his replacement. If that happens we’ll lose two key players instrumental in our revival, not just one.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
I would think that there are two options. Keep Nelson to the end if the season or replace him if he leaves.
So as us always the case when players leave how good will the replacement be?
So much is still up in the air at the moment and the situation regarding Nelson will reveal a lot about where this club is really going. If he leaves, there will be big question marks over it’s ambitions. Robinson again alluded to the club being on the threshold of a big future after the game but I believe the Thohir situation is key. I have a feeling it’s not running as smoothly as hoped. I know there’s been talk of him selling his shares at Milan before being announced here but Tiger said over a week ago that his arrival has been temporarily held up over a paperwork hitch and since then we’ve heard nothing. I wonder if the EFL have put the kibosh on it. If so I wonder how damaging that would be to Tiger, and the clubs, plans going forward.
Paul B
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Yes he was. We have looked much better since he dropped out of and just in front of the back four. But conversely we improved massively and became the better team at the Valley when he moved back into the back four when Dickie went off.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
I'm not sure that I agree with that?
We are unlikely to go up this season.
So if Nelsons contract is up at the end of the season and he has offers from Championship clubs he is likely to be off.
Nothing to do with where we are as a club. He will get a huge salary rise going to the Championship (which I reckon he will do very well in)
So we sell in January for say £500k or let him go at the end of the season for nothing.
True, his performances are improving quite dramatically as the season goes on. At the start he was a tad shaky ( not alone in that!) and coming off the back of a serious injury so the chance of a big move to the championship was quite remote but that’s changing now and we might have missed the boat. Very frustrating if it’s another case of getting somebody fit for someone else’s benefit, I still think if we want to push on and are as ambitious as people at the club keep telling us then we need to try our best to hang on to players like Nelson.
