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I was responding to the bit I highlighted from your post, where you said specifically that our attendances "have fluctuated significantly over the years" and were "pretty poor".

My post is nothing to do with leaving early, that is a separate issue.

I feel offended by those comments, so yes, insulting fits the bill. We don't have the highest attendances in the league, but we do have a very loyal fanbase, who have stuck with the club through thick and (mostly) thin. We have had attendances to be proud of during these times, not to be criticised as poor by someone who hasn't really thought it through.

Well, I'm sorry if you feel offended. It certainly wasn't the intention!

I respect your opinion, as ever. It's a shame because it doesn't really feel like you respect mine, for whatever reason.

Let's move on.
 
Would be a bit weird if anyone knew all 9000 Oxford fans at a game.

Everyone is a day-tripper for their first game, it's the way the club will grow. If people want to leave early, that's up to them, but at least they bought a ticket in the first place.
 
All the talk of day trippers and low attendances just highlights the issues that have plagued OUFC for decades. The Manor, character? - yes, by the bucket load but, was it comfortable? Did it have modern safety and seating? Of course not. The Kasstad. Character? Not in a good way. Comfortable? Concrete wind tunnel, no hot water, only 3 stands, in dire need of renovation and modernisation (Now that's something that a 20 year old building shouldn't need, not to the extent that it does)

So, a family looking for a day out, the footy - excitement, footy food a good time for all. Not much chance when the toilets are dire, no hot water, catering is haphazard, seats are wet after a shower, car park is badly lit and overgrown by weeds etc, no public transport connections worth mentioning. A car park that serves an entertainment complex and sees a free for all to get away from.
No, that's not an attractive proposition. The Triangle will see all of that change. A modern, purpose design and build. Public transport. Lots of hospitality options. Well lit, heated concourses and toilets. Family friendly, inclusive to all. Believe me, that will see 16,000 supporters every game. I can even imagine a waiting list for season tickets. And, of course, it won't be just match days nor even just the men's first team, all sorts of activities will see folk congregating and utilising the stadium and surroundings.
 
Well, I'm sorry if you feel offended. It certainly wasn't the intention!

I respect your opinion, as ever. It's a shame because it doesn't really feel like you respect mine, for whatever reason.

Let's move on.
It's not that I don't respect your opinion mate, it's that you said something (that our attendances fluctuated significantly over the years) which was factually incorrect, and I felt the need to put that right.

As you say, let's move on.
 
It's not that I don't respect your opinion mate, it's that you said something (that our attendances fluctuated significantly over the years) which was factually incorrect, and I felt the need to put that right.

As you say, let's move on.

That's totally fine. By making unsubstantiated claims like that I appreciate I leave myself open to being challenged. It's absolutely your domain and I defer to your greater knowledge in the area.

You go on stats, I was merely going on 'feel'.

I'm actually glad I'm wrong, and hope the fanbase can continue to prove me wrong in future.
 
Thing is, it’s not the cinema, it’s not just for ‘entertainment’, you’re meant to be a supporter, and the protagonists can see if you’ve sloped off. Fair enough that people have stuff going on and car issues etc, and letting in six is a special case, but I bet fans in hotbeds like Newcastle and Sunderland don’t all leave if they’re losing. I can walk home and i always want to see what happens, I’m not claiming any personal moral superiority.
"fans in hotbeds like Sunderland"...

I watched Sunderland v Leeds on tv this season, Sunderland were 2-1 down, and with around 25 minutes to go Sunderland fans were streaming out of the stadium, I couldn't believe how many, especially with such an exciting game also the score so evenly poised.

By 15 minutes to go the stadium was over half empty.

Sunderland equalised with a less than half full stadium - the stadium was full at the start of the match.
 
Chris Foy : ref's view
Penalty and a yellow card.
Not sure why the video caption says it is our defender "Matthew Clarke" rather than Elliot Moore.
 
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