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Fan's View FAN’S VIEW: 24/25 – No.19 MIDDLESBROUGH AT HOME
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Manorlounger
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Yes, it was a penalty. Off side? debatable. Left early? Yes, we did, actually not long after they had scored number 6. We felt that the entertainment was over. Our choice and yes, it did make getting out of the carpark less frustrating than normal.
We can accept losing, once in a while but, that margin was embarrassing and served to highlight the disparity between those teams that have ownership of their own ground, the numbers they can attract and the finance that both factors bring into play and, teams like Oxford who, despite having achieved inclusion on merit, have to suffer under the disproportionate application of finance that is the EFL and Premiership.
We can accept losing, once in a while but, that margin was embarrassing and served to highlight the disparity between those teams that have ownership of their own ground, the numbers they can attract and the finance that both factors bring into play and, teams like Oxford who, despite having achieved inclusion on merit, have to suffer under the disproportionate application of finance that is the EFL and Premiership.
werthersoriginal
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Thing is, it’s not the cinema, it’s not just for ‘entertainment’, you’re meant to be a supporter, and the protagonists can see if you’ve sloped off. Fair enough that people have stuff going on and car issues etc, and letting in six is a special case, but I bet fans in hotbeds like Newcastle and Sunderland don’t all leave if they’re losing. I can walk home and i always want to see what happens, I’m not claiming any personal moral superiority.
holdsteady
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Newcastle had a tourist area because they couldn't sell all their tickets when they were not doing well pre Saudis. Not seen a ground that hasn't got loads of empty seats when the home side are being hammered with ten minutes to go on games I watch on TV either, where ever that is.
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TailsWeWin
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No, you’re not a pessimist.
Good sense is enough to see that we are clearly some way below most Championship teams in finance and quality of personnel. I cannot understand some of those pre-match predictions (“Yeah: Sparky to get a couple, Cam and Ruben. Easy win.”) Nice to have some glass-half-fullers but those matchday thread predictions continue to amaze me.
As many have pointed out, the points will need to come from the “weaker” teams, but let’s not forget: we are one of them.
As for Tuesday, I’ll be there again of course
But I’m not looking forward to the long drive home.
Good sense is enough to see that we are clearly some way below most Championship teams in finance and quality of personnel. I cannot understand some of those pre-match predictions (“Yeah: Sparky to get a couple, Cam and Ruben. Easy win.”) Nice to have some glass-half-fullers but those matchday thread predictions continue to amaze me.
As many have pointed out, the points will need to come from the “weaker” teams, but let’s not forget: we are one of them.
As for Tuesday, I’ll be there again of course
But I’m not looking forward to the long drive home.
unification
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I recall Gary Lineker making a quip on MOTD about Sunderland during one of their relegation years when in the PL. He said ‘beat the traffic at the Stadium of Light by staying until the end’.
It happens everywhere around the country. The bigger the battering, the more people who’ll leave before the end.
werthersoriginal
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Ha , I do recall that. I was more taking issue with people leaving because 'We felt that the entertainment was over'.
OUSP
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It certainly makes it quicker to get away. We reiterate the point made in the Fans view about the car parks, which was not clear on the radio.
It is only the VIP car park and the blue badges along the East/North stand that are held back. This is to ensure pedestrians from these stands can safely leave and get to the bus stops. Anyone in the main (Fence End) car park, overflow or East car park will only be delayed by the volume of traffic.
Manorlounger
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Our leaving with a few minutes of the game remaining was motivated by our not enjoying what we were seeing but also, the thought of sitting in the car park seething at the result and the ever increasing impatience to get home whilst enduring the usual "bumper car" mentality of some drivers adding to the depressing story. Walking home avoiding any delays and frustration must be wonderful, however, many others do not enjoy that easy exit.
We are not casual fans of the club. We are not "plastic support" and if we decide to leave early, that's up to us and should not be the basis for anyone to take issue. There have been many occasions when we have stayed long after the final whistle to applaud the players, to chat to staff etc, Indeed, it is something we are looking forward to with the new stadium with all the promise of hospitality and ease of travel arrangements.
It may not fit your interpretation of a supporter if we leave early but, it's our prerogative and no-one else's and, as far as we are concerned, does not diminish our standing as supporters.
werthersoriginal
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Yes, I know you personally are a very loyal supporter, I was just taking issue with your wording. I’m not sure how often football is really‘entertainment’, it’s often too tense to qualify for that term.
ZeroTheHero
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I can understand people leaving early, especially when we are 4 goals to the bad. As I said before though, I *cannot* understand people buggering off at half time when we are 2 down.
Paul B
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Always an emotive one this leaving early thing. Always interested to gets differing opinions and watch the debate that follows I know some very loyal fans who have left early for whatever reason.
Here it was the sheer numbers and how early people started leaving that really struck me. I just wonder how the players, who undoubtedly were trying their hardest, felt.
Probably what is more annoying is regards those that left early that will be nowhere to be seen if we get relegated and then struggle. Note, that’s an IF
Here it was the sheer numbers and how early people started leaving that really struck me. I just wonder how the players, who undoubtedly were trying their hardest, felt.
Probably what is more annoying is regards those that left early that will be nowhere to be seen if we get relegated and then struggle. Note, that’s an IF
TailsWeWin
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I left when we were six nil down against Wigan that time.
Good decision.
Good decision.
Yellow River
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MarkG
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werthersoriginal
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I stayed to the end #trufan
I can't believe that people left at half time. Agree with you that those people will disappear for much of next season if we were to go down.
One thing that struck me though, was that those who stayed behind were really behind the team. The 'Buckingham's Yellow Army' chants were loud and continued for a while.
Hopefully the players noticed that as well as some of the empty seats.
I stayed to the end, vs wigan as well.
A few random thoughts:-
The crowd stuck with the team throughout I thought considering the scoreline, with the exception of the early leavers.
When the fixtures came out I believe we all realised there were going to be days like Saturday, against the bigger budget teams with lots of Championship experience.
'Not the top 20' Monday roundup says Jamie Cumming could have done better with 3 of the goals. A bit harsh I feel as they were well placed shots in the corners, although not thunderbolts.
Onto Chris Wilder's blades
A few random thoughts:-
The crowd stuck with the team throughout I thought considering the scoreline, with the exception of the early leavers.
When the fixtures came out I believe we all realised there were going to be days like Saturday, against the bigger budget teams with lots of Championship experience.
'Not the top 20' Monday roundup says Jamie Cumming could have done better with 3 of the goals. A bit harsh I feel as they were well placed shots in the corners, although not thunderbolts.
Onto Chris Wilder's blades
Yes that's why we stayed and as disappointed as we were we applaud ed the players off.At this moment in time they need the fans to stay with them.But anyone leaving early that's their choice coyy.
