National News Extinction "Rebellion"

sadoldsod1778 said:
Can someone explain to me why these kids and there teachers don't protest on a Saturday and then they wouldn't be missing any lessons
Just don't understand
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I think it's because Greta is a big Bristol Rovers fan and will be watching them play Shrewsbury today in a lower mid table battle!
 
chuckbert said:
The number of grammatical errors in posts from people complaining that these kids aren’t in school is hilarious.
Maybe it’s a sign of displaced guilt for not having paid enough attention or time to education. :)
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It say a lot that you can care about grammar in posts... Can I utter the words dead squirrel?
 
Population and consumerism.

Stop/reduce those two and you have sorted out climate change.

In the mean time, cheap houses in Fairbourne.....
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The UK’s first climate change refugees?

Fairbourne is the first community set to be decommissioned due to rising sea levels.
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They may have an idyllic view & rural lifestyle but living next to the sea is always a worry, same as living next to a river.

6 years ago they were talking about "legal action".......
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Legal action possible over sea village

Residents of a coastal community in Gwynedd are considering legal action against plans that would see their village abandoned to the sea.
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Essexyellows said:
Population and consumerism.

Stop/reduce those two and you have sorted out climate change.
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All the fault of the general public. Big business is completely blameless.

Perhaps regulation to force, say at random, Walkers to produce a recyclable crisp bag instead of what we have now, would be the way to go? Or force the car industry to change their products, as is happening, instead of saying "don't use cars"?

Wish I saw everything as Black and White as you do.
 
SteMerritt said:
All the fault of the general public. Big business is completely blameless.

Perhaps regulation to force, say at random, Walkers to produce a recyclable crisp bag instead of what we have now, would be the way to go? Or force the car industry to change their products, as is happening, instead of saying "don't use cars"?

Wish I saw everything as Black and White as you do.
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If the demand isn`t there then business don`t supply the product. :)

And you can return crisp packets to Walkers for recycling. https://www.walkers.co.uk/recycle

Yep, forcing the car industry to change to electric, that hasn`t got any downsides................... except children mining lithium, cobalt and other rare minerals for the batteries, the wind turbines made elsewhere in the world with a life span of 25-30 years, and where are all those solar panels, similar lifespan or less, going to end up?

The world is fudged, we all did it, and you can`t turn the clock back.
 
Essexyellows said:
If the demand isn`t there then business don`t supply the product. :)
And you can return crisp packets to Walkers for recycling. https://www.walkers.co.uk/recycle
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But the demand isn't for the packaging, it is for the product inside. If Walkers were forced to produce properly recyclable/compostable packaging that householders could put in their recycling bins (and the mechanics of public recycling are perhaps an argument for another thread!) - rather than some scheme that you may or may not be bothered to seek out - absolutely nobody would buy less crisps. It would require virtually no change in behaviour from the consumer, especially those who either 'don't believe' in climate change or are too irresponsible to care. A crisp packet is a small thing - but a million crisp packets is a big thing.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
But the demand isn't for the packaging, it is for the product inside. If Walkers were forced to produce properly recyclable/compostable packaging that householders could put in their recycling bins (and the mechanics of public recycling are perhaps an argument for another thread!) - rather than some scheme that you may or may not be bothered to seek out - absolutely nobody would buy less crisps. It would require virtually no change in behaviour from the consumer, especially those who either 'don't believe' in climate change or are too irresponsible to care. A crisp packet is a small thing - but a million crisp packets is a big thing.
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In 1920 Smiths sold crisps in paper bags cooked in his garage and sold in paper bags...
In 1950`s crisps were sold in tins to retailers, then bagged (paper)
In 1960s/1970s they started selling them in plastic......

Lets go back to 1920 with local crisp manufacturers bringing them round with a horse and cart...... ;)
 
And I should add the population of the UK in 1950 was 50.38 million................ now 66.87 million......
 
Its simple, if all of us stop buying the damaging stuff the businesses stop producing it.
Leave the car at home & walk.
Don`t buy crisps.
Don`t "upgrade" your tech.
Turn the heating down/off.
Don`t buy cheap clothes.
Don`t buy avocado`s.
Shop daily at independent stores.
Recycle.
Grow your own.
Live a more frugal life.
Don`t waste anything.
Make the kids walk to school.

The list could be far far longer but this selfish society always expects "somebody else" to "do something" because they themselves are always "too busy".
Nice to see @Pete Burrett back in the fold...... :)
 
Essexyellows said:
If the demand isn`t there then business don`t supply the product. :)

And you can return crisp packets to Walkers for recycling. https://www.walkers.co.uk/recycle

Yep, forcing the car industry to change to electric, that hasn`t got any downsides................... except children mining lithium, cobalt and other rare minerals for the batteries, the wind turbines made elsewhere in the world with a life span of 25-30 years, and where are all those solar panels, similar lifespan or less, going to end up?

The world is fudged, we all did it, and you can`t turn the clock back.
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Plus other items such as bottle tops, tin foil, etc can be recycled with effort. Depending where you live, the council will do it, or some locals will do it and package if off to charities. Clothes can be recycled too.

And of course what will power all those electric cars and is the power grid capable of coping with the demand of millions of cars being charged at 6pm after work? Battery technology is constantly evolving, so the issues will be mitigated slightly, but it won't hide the issue as more devices are plugged in and demand spread over power sources is put into one. Will we need to buy our power from abroad? Will it be carbon neutral? Etc

It's this thinking that is so frustrating, but peeps don't wanna listen. Just wanna shout at others if we aren't climate "sheep" and baa along with whatever Attenborough of Thunberg say.
 
Gary Baldi said:
Plus other items such as bottle tops, tin foil, etc can be recycled with effort. Depending where you live, the council will do it, or some locals will do it and package if off to charities. Clothes can be recycled too.
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You touch on one of the main problems, there is no standardised coherent recycling strategy. Everyone does their own thing, the difference from Bicester to Thame in what is recycled is marked.

Clothes recycling got a bit of a kicking the other week...

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How the UK's fast fashion habits are polluting a country halfway around the world

Standing knee deep in rotting clothes, many from the UK, there was no avoiding the gravity of the environmental consequences of our throw away culture. It was all around me. And as if any more proof were needed, amongst the stinking toxic waste of this 30-foot high textile mountain, I found a...
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