General English Championship Promotion Changes

[SamLongSlidingTackle]

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[holdsteady]

Its perfect as is, why change it?

Not that my opinion will matter and if the money is in the change then that's what will happen.

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Terrible idea IMO. At the moment, you have the top two going up plus 4. add another couple and you are going down to 8th place finishers. Last year the team in 8th were Millwall, who got 66 points - that is 24 points less than Sheffield Utd who were in third. The year before, there was a 21 point gap between Leeds and Middlesborough. I do understand that you can get anomalies like this between 3rd and 6th - but this will just make it worse. Also, it will inevitably be more complex and take longer.

@holdsteady is correct though - if there's money in it, it is a foregone conclusion.

 

[holdsteady]

Terrible idea IMO. At the moment, you have the top two going up plus 4. add another couple and you are going down to 8th place finishers. Last year the team in 8th were Millwall, who got 66 points - that is 24 points less than Sheffield Utd who were in third. The year before, there was a 21 point gap between Leeds and Middlesborough. I do understand that you can get anomalies like this between 3rd and 6th - but this will just make it worse. Also, it will inevitably be more complex and take longer.

@holdsteady is correct though - if there's money in it, it is a foregone conclusion.

Guessing they will do what the national league do, can't say I like that much either though.

 

[Foley]

Its perfect as is, why change it?

Not that my opinion will matter and if the money is in the change then that's what will happen.

The gap between the EPL and Championship seems to be getting bigger.
Not sure that including 8th place will help in this regard.

 

[Northstandboy]

That is all it is. More money

 

[SamLongSlidingTackle]

That is all it is. More money

I'll always remember the quote from Jerome Sale on some other matter - football is a simple game.
Not much needed changing over the years and what has changed hasn't addressed the problem but avoided it.

 

[Stranger]

I've never been a fan of the play offs (2010 and 2024 excepted) because it rewards mediocracy. If these changes are adopted (which they probably will be, because £) it will only exacerbate the problem.

If they're going to open them up to other clubs, why not go back to how they were originally introduced in the 1980s and have play offs between, say, the 3rd and 4th placed Championship sides and the two Prem teams that finish just above the relegation zone?

 

[Left Wing Cross]

The gap between the EPL and Championship seems to be getting bigger.
Not sure that including 8th place will help in this regard.

It will also increase the length of the season by a week or two so the promoted club will have even less time to recruit before the new season starts.

 

[SirAndyOfCrosby]

If they're going to open them up to other clubs, why not go back to how they were originally introduced in the 1980s and have play offs between, say, the 3rd and 4th placed Championship sides and the two Prem teams that finish just above the relegation zone?

Absolutely 'no' to any relegation play-offs. Kind of rewards the shite sides? Play-offs then become something to avoid rather than celebrate? You certainly can't then send them to Wembley for a showpiece final and that is absolutely how and where play-offs should be ultimately decided.

No expansion for potentially promoted sides either - the Conference version is an absolute dog's dinner with one-off games, extra games for those finishing lower down, 'if you win away on Thursday at Margate you get a home game v Thurrock on the Sunday' - absolute nonsense.

Play-offs as they are - superb. They are spot on IMHO. Right amount of sides to make it aspirational but without getting any mid-table chaff. You'll always get a few 'undeserved winners' in the eyes of league table purists - but for my money if you pull a Bolton at Wembley you deserve to stay down for choking. And the rewards are there for those of us who rise to the occasion.

Two-legs with a fair but not insurmountable advantage to the side finishing higher with the home leg second. Massive reward of a Wembley final for all.

Perfection.

Just f*cking leave it alone you c*nts.

 

[holdsteady]

Won't be any relegation play offs, any financial gain in it is wiped out if you get relegated and clubs won't take the risk of that and they vote on it.

 

[Left Wing Cross]

Won't be any relegation play offs, any financial gain in it is wiped out if you get relegated and clubs won't take the risk of that and they vote on it.

Unless, it is the third-bottom placed club is placed in the play-off structure so they get a second chance to stay up (a bit like in Scotland)?

If the gap between the Championship and the PL is maintained (or grows), that would effectively reduce the number of relegated clubs.

 

[holdsteady]

Unless, it is the third-bottom placed club is placed in the play-off structure so they get a second chance to stay up (a bit like in Scotland)?

If the gap between the Championship and the PL is maintained (or grows), that would effectively reduce the number of relegated clubs.

Can you imagine that, a 46 game season, play offs down to 8th place, you win the 3 extra games then you have to go to Wembley to play the 3rd place prem team. Sky would love it but what a way to ruin a simple format.

 

[Marked Ox]

Guessing they will do what the national league do, can't say I like that much either though.

What the NL do is awful.

 

[Essexyellows]

Is there money in it? Yes.
If the answer is "Yes" it`ll happen.

Load of b*****s, games gone.

 

[Paul Cannell]

I've never been a fan of the play offs (2010 and 2024 excepted) because it rewards mediocracy.

Well, yes of course. But the country's been a mediocracy since Wilson, Healey, Jenkins and Barbara Castle were in power.

Perhaps you meant 'mediocrity'?

Hard to ignore, eh?

 

[MarkG]

Can you imagine that, a 46 game season, play offs down to 8th place, you win the 3 extra games then you have to go to Wembley to play the 3rd place prem team. Sky would love it but what a way to ruin a simple format.

I see what you say about the relegation play off.
No matter how rubbish a team is in the EPL. So here the third worst EpL team gets into a play off instead of relegated.
They should still have a team good enough to beat a team from the championship that could be anywhere from 3rd to 8th who had got to a play off.

 

[holdsteady]

I see what you say about the relegation play off.
No matter how rubbish a team is in the EPL. So here the third worst EpL team gets into a play off instead of relegated.
They should still have a team good enough to beat a team from the championship that could be anywhere from 3rd to 8th who had got to a play off.

It would just make the gap even bigger if the prem team won regularly, bad enough as it is.

 

[Stranger]

Well, yes of course. But the country's been a mediocracy since Wilson, Healey, Jenkins and Barbara Castle were in power.

Perhaps you meant 'mediocrity'?

Hard to ignore, eh?

Whatever