End of the world...or unseasonable weather

AbbeyOx

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to think this time last year we had the beast from the east.
i’m outside working at the moment and seriously thinking about putting my shorts on
 

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It , the weather, is set to revert to 'usual' type from tomorrow (cloudy, colder and likelihood of rain ) ....that said the unseasonably warm past few days have been most welcome. ... having a spot of lunch al fresco as i type . No shorts for me though, not in feb in ox3....im not a postman
 
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I've been out in t-shirt and shorts 7-8 times this month. This month? February! Global warming? My body warming! 🔥
 

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We,ve only been keeping records for 100 years or so.....climate change is a load of old B*****s,the climates been changing for millions of years......tchhh
 

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We,ve only been keeping records for 100 years or so.....climate change is a load of old B*s,the climates been changing for millions of years......tchhh
Not this fast, they haven't. But don't let the facts get in the way.
 

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Umm. So I was at an oil industry conference this week. And believe me we are taking it very, very seriously. There was talk about 1.5, never mind 2
 

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My understanding (limited) is that Ice Ages come around in cycles, and we are over due the last one by 5000 years.
6000 years ago we started clearing trees for farming on a large scale which fractionally raised the temperature of the earth, preventing the last Ice Age from happening. The Earth has been slowly warming ever since, with an acceleration since the industrial revolution.

I'm not a scientist, and this is not my field of expertise
 

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My understanding (limited) is that Ice Ages come around in cycles, and we are over due the last one by 5000 years.
6000 years ago we started clearing trees for farming on a large scale which fractionally raised the temperature of the earth, preventing the last Ice Age from happening. The Earth has been slowly warming ever since, with an acceleration since the industrial revolution.

I'm not a scientist, and this is not my field of expertise
Climate change - as opposed to weather variations which that dolt Trump keeps referring to - is a natural process, but people worth listening to (the majority of scientists in relevant fields, rather than Trump or Cassox) almost universally agree that human activity is accelerating the climate change process, to the detriment of the planet.

So, over thousands of years, climate will change naturally and the planet will readjust, but for the past 200 years humankind has increased this natural change to the point where, if it continues, the planet will just not cope.

I'm certainly no expert either but, like you, I can read and the idea that climate change is a global version of Brexit's 'Project Fear' is quite insulting to the intelligence.
 
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Is there a thing a few middle class westerners can do to halt a change caused by 5,000 years of human “progress”, in a world with an increasing population mostly in the non western areas? Is anyone really willing to make the changes necessary to at least arrest it? How do you force billions of people to live poorer lives around the world?

If it is happening nothing can be done about it so it’s a bit pointless worrying about it, might as well wear shorts and sunglasses and enjoy it rather than put a coat on and moan about it.
 

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I can't claim to endorse this or not, but nonetheless, a rebuttal of sorts. Rather let down by the Trump stuff at the bottom though.
 

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Is there a thing a few middle class westerners can do to halt a change caused by 5,000 years of human “progress”, in a world with an increasing population mostly in the non western areas? Is anyone really willing to make the changes necessary to at least arrest it? How do you force billions of people to live poorer lives around the world?

If it is happening nothing can be done about it so it’s a bit pointless worrying about it, might as well wear shorts and sunglasses and enjoy it rather than put a coat on and moan about it.
Theres a huge amount that countries and industries can do to change things- like the Green New Deal posited here and in the US - hugely investing in recyclable energy and cutting back on Carbon,. Will I listen to 99 per cent of scientists around the worlg or the bloke who draws Dilbert? that's not a rebuttal of any sort.
 

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