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to think this time last year we had the beast from the east.
i’m outside working at the moment and seriously thinking about putting my shorts on
End of the world...or unseasonable weather
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to think this time last year we had the beast from the east.
i’m outside working at the moment and seriously thinking about putting my shorts on
It , the weather, is set to revert to 'usual' type from tomorrow (cloudy, colder and likelihood of rain ) ....that said the unseasonably warm past few days have been most welcome. ... having a spot of lunch al fresco as i type . No shorts for me though, not in feb in ox3....im not a postman
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YellowTaxi
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
The weather is not set to revert to "usual type"- the last five years have been the five hottest years on record.
this is serious. if you care about the future of your children and grandchildren TAK
Usual type"
this is serious. if you care about the future of your children and grandchildren TAK
Usual type"
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
Fools Spring thats all it is........
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
And has been for the last five years?
amershamdave
RIP
I've been out in t-shirt and shorts 7-8 times this month. This month? February! Global warming? My body warming! ?
Oldham
Level: Dave Roberts
(176 Apps, 8 Gls)
That’s just the menopause setting in Cuddy, don’t worry too much about it mate ?
Not this fast, they haven't. But don't let the facts get in the way.
YellowTaxi
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
lots of other records, like tree rings, glaciers,
I’ve been wearing shorts non stop
YellowTaxi
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Oslernorth
Level: John Aldridge
(141 Apps, 90 Gls)
My understanding (limited) is that Ice Ages come around in cycles, and we are over due the last one by 5000 years.
6000 years ago we started clearing trees for farming on a large scale which fractionally raised the temperature of the earth, preventing the last Ice Age from happening. The Earth has been slowly warming ever since, with an acceleration since the industrial revolution.
I'm not a scientist, and this is not my field of expertise
6000 years ago we started clearing trees for farming on a large scale which fractionally raised the temperature of the earth, preventing the last Ice Age from happening. The Earth has been slowly warming ever since, with an acceleration since the industrial revolution.
I'm not a scientist, and this is not my field of expertise
Is there a thing a few middle class westerners can do to halt a change caused by 5,000 years of human “progress”, in a world with an increasing population mostly in the non western areas? Is anyone really willing to make the changes necessary to at least arrest it? How do you force billions of people to live poorer lives around the world?
If it is happening nothing can be done about it so it’s a bit pointless worrying about it, might as well wear shorts and sunglasses and enjoy it rather than put a coat on and moan about it.
If it is happening nothing can be done about it so it’s a bit pointless worrying about it, might as well wear shorts and sunglasses and enjoy it rather than put a coat on and moan about it.
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
I can't claim to endorse this or not, but nonetheless, a rebuttal of sorts. Rather let down by the Trump stuff at the bottom though.
YellowTaxi
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
Theres a huge amount that countries and industries can do to change things- like the Green New Deal posited here and in the US - hugely investing in recyclable energy and cutting back on Carbon,. Will I listen to 99 per cent of scientists around the worlg or the bloke who draws Dilbert? that's not a rebuttal of any sort.
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
Surely, if there is even the slightest chance that the scientists are even slightly right, then it is sensible to take steps. If by some chance they are all wrong, then we will have cut down on what we know are harmful emissions, saved rainforests and preserved some of the fossil fuel reserves for the future, as well as developing cheaper cleaner technologies. If on the other hand they are right, we will have gone some way to ensuring that our children and grandchildren have somewhere halfway decent to live.
It's all to easy to find someone to rebut anything (evolution, moon landings, the shape of the earth etc etc) but using that as an excuse to put your fingers in your ears, deride anything that you don't want to hear and to just carry on doing the wrong thing because you don't want it to be true is selfish childishness of the highest order. (I'm looking at you Agent Orange!!!)
It's all to easy to find someone to rebut anything (evolution, moon landings, the shape of the earth etc etc) but using that as an excuse to put your fingers in your ears, deride anything that you don't want to hear and to just carry on doing the wrong thing because you don't want it to be true is selfish childishness of the highest order. (I'm looking at you Agent Orange!!!)
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
The Green New Deal is a wonderful piece of satire. Truly wonderful.
If AOC had spent time proof reading it, understanding how us proles live our lives and more globally, it might get to something worth it. As it is, it's impractical and naive. And insanely expensive.
No ta. Would rather we focus on working on getting countries like India and China to be better custodians of the world!
YellowTaxi
Level: Callum O'Dowda
(106 Apps, 14 Gls)
any specific criticism? no didn't think so.
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
Were you around this time last year?
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
^^^this..... "we" are piddling into the wind...
Im with you re getting the likes of India &China to comply &adhere to agreements about pollution etc @Gary Baldi , however , its probably just me who would be concerned that either or both india &china would prove to be similar custodians of the world as our slum landlord is as (self appointed) custodian of oufc ?
ZeroTheHero
Level: Phil Whitehead
(238 Apps)
Umm that was weather! There is a difference between day to day weather and longer term climate trends. As you well know!
Oufcrealist
Level: Yemi Odubade
(158 Apps, 31 Gls)
Very true. It was an extreme weather event and these are becoming more frequent year on year around the world. Just because we had well below average temperatures for over a month, it doesn't mean the overall climate is not getting warmer.
Essexyellows
Level: Cameron Brannagan
(311 Apps, 57 Gls)
Yup, and there is diddly we can do about it whilst billions of people in China, India etc etc churn it out in the name of progress & improvement...................
but if everyone thinks like that nothing will change. small steps and all that
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
Well this planet is f**ked then if all countries take that attitude.
By investing in and developing clean energy that effects what we do reducing our impact on the world. Already due to moves (brought about by the EU) on energy efficiency in things like Vacuums, White Goods etc has had a real impact in the UK/EU. Those standards will ultimately travel around the world.
Investment in carbon capture etc is also important with studies like this displaying interesting possibilities whilst being practical:
Investment by a few countries in a number of technologies have driven others to follow (going back to railways as an example) so there is no reason so this could easily be the case with China/India.
Doing nothing isn't an option and getting in early on these technologies can be very good for the economy (as China have done with Solar panels etc).
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
The problem is twofold. One, the scale of the change is vastly different in terms of population size and land mass, and secondly it's a heavy anchor to the frippery of what the UK can do. We can turn the lights of each week, but when China are happily investing in coal power stations, it makes our efforts rather moot.
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