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Essexyellows said:
Not necessarily dear person.

DT has dragged people to the negotiating table and we will have the likes of David Lammy batting for us.

OK, your right, we are fecked. 😂 😂
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Like existing trade deals weren't the product of..er negotiations. 🤣

All he had done is shown the world he doesn't know what he's doing, he can't be trusted and he will flit at the drop of a hat. The damage he is doing to the reputation of the US and therefore it's longer term economic well-being could lead to civil unrest. Then he'd have to declare a national emergency, cancel future elections, ....hold on....that can't be his plan can it. Can it?
 
QR said:
Like existing trade deals weren't the product of..er negotiations. 🤣

All he had done is shown the world he doesn't know what he's doing, he can't be trusted and he will flit at the drop of a hat. The damage he is doing to the reputation of the US and therefore it's longer term economic well-being could lead to civil unrest. Then he'd have to declare a national emergency, cancel future elections, ....hold on....that can't be his plan can it. Can it?
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I know I have the occasional moments of "WTF?" but I think that might be taking things a tiny step too far even for you. :)

There is more likelihood of civil unrest here as the Starmernator rinses a lot of people, drops a lot of soundbites, but doesn't actually make anything better for most of us.
 
Essexyellows said:
I know I have the occasional moments of "WTF?" but I think that might be taking things a tiny step too far even for you. :)

There is more likelihood of civil unrest here as the Starmernator rinses a lot of people, drops a lot of soundbites, but doesn't actually make anything better for most of us.
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Because Trump isn't already riding rough shod over the democratic process with his Executive Orders a power acquired as a result of him declaring a national emergency. Most people can see he'll do anything to retain power. Why can't you? 🤔

But there again you probably wouldn't call the attack on the Capitol and the murder of police defending the Capitol civil unrest. 🤷

And people say look at what he does not what he says. 🤦🤦🤦🤦
 
Essexyellows said:
I know I have the occasional moments of "WTF?" but I think that might be taking things a tiny step too far even for you. :)

There is more likelihood of civil unrest here as the Starmernator rinses a lot of people, drops a lot of soundbites, but doesn't actually make anything better for most of us.
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At times you really do spout a load of b*****s .
My 4pt of milk increased in price by 10p today.
But I am not contemplating civil unrest .
 
LowerSouth said:
At times you really do spout a load of b*****s .
My 4pt of milk increased in price by 10p today.
But I am not contemplating civil unrest .
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I wasn`t "spouting a load of b******s" I was suggesting the likelihood of civil unrest in the US was batshit crazy, ergo the odds of the same happening here was just as bonkers.

There is a lot needs to happen before civil unrest actually breaks out and it is normally localised and not very organised. 🤷‍♂️

I will also bet that, of the 10p your milk went up, the farmer will get about 1p.
 
Go ridiculous....milk the attention....edge back to a position that seems slightly less insane.... bemused opponent accepts to keep the loon quiet... settle at a position more in your favour than would be achieved by conventional methods.... change tack randomly.....go ridiculous in a completely different sphere....rinse and repeat...

The Trumpian business (and presidency) plan
 
I’m starting to believe that Donald Trump, Putin and Xi have struck an agreement that they can all make their fortunes out of the markets. Scenario A Trump threatened tariffs, markets drop. Announces them then markets plunge. He announces that he won’t change his mind so markets fall further. Meanwhile Trump and his mates having sold loads of shares now buy at knockdown prices. Trump then announces 90 day suspension. Markets rise in response.
He will play us for fools while he profits with Putin and Xi at the expense of so many of us with portfolios and pensions.
The man is dangerous and is not fit to be near the White House
 
Peterdev said:
I’m starting to believe that Donald Trump, Putin and Xi have struck an agreement that they can all make their fortunes out of the markets. Scenario A Trump threatened tariffs, markets drop. Announces them then markets plunge. He announces that he won’t change his mind so markets fall further. Meanwhile Trump and his mates having sold loads of shares now buy at knockdown prices. Trump then announces 90 day suspension. Markets rise in response.
He will play us for fools while he profits with Putin and Xi at the expense of so many of us with portfolios and pensions.
The man is dangerous and is not fit to be near the White House
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Bit late for that. The idiocracy is well and truly in charge.

Buckle up, he's only just getting started.

The only way he's leaving the Whitehouse early is in a pine box or a straightjacket.
 
Peterdev said:
Can’t wait. We will then have the psychopath JD Vance to replace him. Probably for another presidency.
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If both don't get impeached first of course. Won't happen while GOP control both houses, but in two years time....🤷‍♂️

Just hope someone's keeping good notes on all the insider trading Trump and his associates have been engaged in over recent days. That's your money they lost and are now trousering.
 
British savers and pension holders will of course suffer. He has single handedly embarked on a possible recession so that his few cronies and dubious chums benefit at our expense
 
While stocks and shares and markets plummet, Donnie and his billionaire mates make an absolute fortune. Sounds like insider trading to me. And to think the MAGA nutjobs think he's on their side. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

uk.news.yahoo.com

Trump brags in Oval Office that his billionaire pals made a killing in stocks after he pulled the plug on tariffs

President Donald Trump gleefully recounted how much money his billionaire pals made on the stock market after he suddenly suspended most of his worldwide tariffs. Stocks zoomed Wednesday after Trump pulled the plug on the tariffs. Stocks jumped more than 7 percent Wednesday within minutes of...
uk.news.yahoo.com uk.news.yahoo.com
 
There’s no question that’s insider trading at the expense of the general public who’ve decided to invest their money in pension funds and investments, be they unit trusts, investment trusts or ordinary shares.
Who thinks like me that Trump has concocted a deal with Xi and Putin to cut them in on their dodgy dealings too?
Some may say it’s insider dealing. Plenty of people would say it’s fraud.
Added to all that went on in 2020 that racks up to a pretty heavy jail term
 
QR said:
Like existing trade deals weren't the product of..er negotiations. 🤣

All he had done is shown the world he doesn't know what he's doing, he can't be trusted and he will flit at the drop of a hat. The damage he is doing to the reputation of the US and therefore it's longer term economic well-being could lead to civil unrest. Then he'd have to declare a national emergency, cancel future elections, ....hold on....that can't be his plan can it. Can it?
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Well like the existing trade deal with Mexico and Canada that was negotiated and signed by - er Donald Trump and his government. Strange he now says it was a rubbish deal.
 
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Apart from the markets tanking, one of his "tech bros" kind of torpedoed the main argument that it would bring jobs back to US. As the Trump people were saying Apple would be bringing manufacturing jobs to the US, Tim Cook was saying that the US didn't have the numbers of skilled workers for that to be possible. He did announce $500bn investment in 20000 "new" r&d jobs - but this is the same thing he announced for the last Trump presidency, then the Biden presidency, that still hasn't been delivered (https://www.computerworld.com/article/3836615/apples-500b-us-jobs-investment-same-old-same-old.html). Apple appear to be the masters of playing US presidents.
 
Sheik Djibouti said:
If both don't get impeached first of course. Won't happen while GOP control both houses, but in two years time....🤷‍♂️

Just hope someone's keeping good notes on all the insider trading Trump and his associates have been engaged in over recent days. That's your money they lost and are now trousering.
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I`m amazed how you have only just realised that the rich get richer off the backs of the rest and there is nothing you can do about it.

Noted the absence on the SKS thread............. please bring a note. :)
 
Sheik Djibouti said:
If both don't get impeached first of course. Won't happen while GOP control both houses, but in two years time....🤷‍♂️

Just hope someone's keeping good notes on all the insider trading Trump and his associates have been engaged in over recent days. That's your money they lost and are now trousering.
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Things will have to get really, really bad for the Democrats to win the Senate in 2026.

The GOP are defending 22 seats, but they are mostly in deep red territory. The Democrats would have to first defend their seat in Georgia, then win Maine (which has probably the most centrist senator in the country in Susan Collins, who's very popular there) then win North Carolina and Ohio and then win......Texas? Florida? Iowa? Somewhere where a Democrat hasn't won in a long, long time, anyways.

I strongly suspect the House will flip, so no more legislation will get passed. But I wouldn't be relying on an impeachment!
 
Trump wanting the Ukraine to cede parts of the Ukraine for peace? WTF Trump should give new a Mexico and Texas back to Mexico….but he won’t so why should Zelensky and the Ukraine give into that tw@ta demands for peace.
 
bazzer9461 said:
Trump wanting the Ukraine to cede parts of the Ukraine for peace? WTF Trump should give new a Mexico and Texas back to Mexico….but he won’t so why should Zelensky and the Ukraine give into that tw@ta demands for peace.
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They shouldn't. But you need to remember Trump is a Putin fanboy or Putin really has something on him.
 
Telling Zelenskyy to “stop” after another country bombs his capital is a new low for even Trump.

Actually, he’s already so low it’s just a continuation of trawling of the depths.
 
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