Ex-Staff Des Buckingham

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Des Buckingham 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Joined
: September 2004 - July 2014 (U18 Manager/Assistant Coach)
16th November 2023 - 15th December 2024 (Head Coach)

 
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I see there are no betting odds on Plymouth now. Looks like Jack Wilshere is in pole position
 
They need a manager with experience of League One where you battle against some skilful and plentry of out and out nutters. They do not need a manager with experience of playing Premiership football against superstars.
Plymouth tried that with Rooney and that’s why they are where they are. I feel for their fans.
 
I hope wherever Des goes he gets proper backing. I feel he joined us as a boyhood dream but was let down in terms of his backroom staff and had to make do with the existing people at the club after Manning had taken his team.
I seem to remember his original choice couldn't get a work permit (hazy memory, might be wrong).
 
Cardiff feels like such an obvious job for Des. I know they’re a bit messy at the top but it’s a cracking club, capable of good crowds if you get the fans onside and a fallen premier league club. His links to the Welsh FA surely has a part to play as well. I’m surprised this isn’t already done to be honest. He could be a hero all over again.

Plymouth doesn’t exactly represent a cushty existence given the previous guy’s public rant about things there. Would far rather see him at Cardiff, that’s a great club for him.

I had thought maybe him going in as manager and Ramsey and Gunter alongside might’ve been a good play - Des has no team to bring and Ramsey has no experience as the main man.
 
Cardiff feels like such an obvious job for Des. I know they’re a bit messy at the top but it’s a cracking club, capable of good crowds if you get the fans onside and a fallen premier league club. His links to the Welsh FA surely has a part to play as well. I’m surprised this isn’t already done to be honest. He could be a hero all over again.

Plymouth doesn’t exactly represent a cushty existence given the previous guy’s public rant about things there. Would far rather see him at Cardiff, that’s a great club for him.

I had thought maybe him going in as manager and Ramsey and Gunter alongside might’ve been a good play - Des has no team to bring and Ramsey has no experience as the main man.
With Des not having his own backroom staff to bring in, this could also be a big plus for him, their owner may want their manager to work alongside the coaching staff that are already there ( minus Ramsey).
 


Sounds like it’s getting a bit messy at Cardiff now. Apparently Ramsey demanded certain changes before taking the managers job to which the club said no. I think Des should be very careful, out of the two Plymouth is the better pick.



If they’re not willing to back Ramsey with his demands then I highly doubt the give Des what he wants.
 
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A manager is only as good as what is above them in the boardroom. Good managers can fail at clubs where there is uncertainty, unpopularity and inconsistency from above.

Does Vincent Tan offer that to Des?
On the flip side, Cardiff is a huge club with a fantastic squad for the level. They shouldn’t have gone down this year with that quality in honesty but for awful management.

I think Des would smash it.
 
On the flip side, Cardiff is a huge club with a fantastic squad for the level. They shouldn’t have gone down this year with that quality in honesty but for awful management.

I think Des would smash it.
Fantastic squad ??? They were the worst team we've played since Fleetwood at home 🏡.
A squad with zero identity & deserved to be relegated .
 
Are Cardiff a big club? Spent most of my lifetime in the lower leagues.
Lower leagues? Prior to this season they hadn't been outside of the top two divisions since 2003, they were in the PL in 13/14 and 18/19, FA Cup Final in 2008, League Cup Final in 2012 and have 20k average attendances. They're probably not a footballing giant, but they're not a small club
 
Lower leagues? Prior to this season they hadn't been outside of the top two divisions since 2003, they were in the PL in 13/14 and 18/19, FA Cup Final in 2008, League Cup Final in 2012 and have 20k average attendances. They're probably not a footballing giant, but they're not a small club

I was probably thinking of my youth more, growing up they were never very high up.

Didn’t say they were a small club, but they are not a big club, setting the bar low for that if Cardiff are one.
 
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Fair question.

Id say they are the biggest club in Wales? And average a good amount of fans in a good stadium.

I actually am surprised they're not a bigger club given the size of cardiff and surrounding area.

They are the biggest club in Wales, but it’s hardly been a football hotbed. Think they tried to market themselves as Wales club at one point to take advantage of that but regional rivalries made that tough, people around Swansea won’t support them and people in north Wales won’t.
 
I would very strongly argue that Ramsey, O’Dowda, Salech, Robinson, El Ghazi, Willock is a decent squad.

In League 1 it’s insane (bar Ramsey).
Had you actually checked the number of games they played. From what I can tell other than O’Dowda who played most matches, Ramsay featured in just 8 Champ games, Salech 20, El Ghazi 25, Robinson and Willock just over 30 each. So the decent 6 a side squad of named players on average only managed about half a season each in 24/25
 
If he gets the choice, take the Plymouth job. The Cardiff Chairman is very impatient, and likes interfering, by all accounts. If he gets the Cardiff job and starts slowly, he'll be out by Christmas.
 
I don’t get all this talk of everyone trying to suggest what club Des should pick to manage! I’m sure he’s bright enough and got enough about him to make up his own mind!

Above all else he’s actually got to get the job in the first place, and no one actually knows if he’s interested in either the Plymouth or Cardiff vacancies, or both.

The chances of him getting offered both jobs and having a choice to make whilst eating his corn flakes are pretty astronomical

If he did get the Cardiff job and should he get sacked in no time, I’m sure he’d be nicely rewarded for failure as all managers are
 
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