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Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Vince did his usual. He wasn't a test cricketer in his first go around, still isn't now. At least Baristow is batting in the correct position now and Malan continues to almost look a test cricketer. Ditto Stoneman
Cook, again, was immense....ly s**t again!
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
His body language is a bit off. He just looks like he wants to be at home, which is understandable!
Manorman
Level: Jamie Brooks
(53 Apps, 13 Gls)
Just read that Stokes hit 93 off 47 balls in an NZ 20/20 match. I believe his “alleged” assault case and subsequent omission from the squad triggered the negative feelings about this tour. I still don’t understand why the authorities are taking so long to determine what if any action will be brought against him.
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Ton up for Malan. First one of the series 
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
Good 1st day but need to kick on tomorrow.
Wow, when I woke up this morning, I thought same old England, messing it up, checked at lunch time and very surprised and happy!
Finally, someone stepped up and put up a serious score. Much respect to Malan for getting it done.
Now he and/or Bairstow need to go on and score big tomorrow. 500+ on the board and we could get back in these Ashes.......
Now he and/or Bairstow need to go on and score big tomorrow. 500+ on the board and we could get back in these Ashes.......
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Moeen is having a quietly putrid series. If he's not fit, rest him and let him get better. At the moment, he's not providing much of anything. Sadly.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Oh dear... Last 6 wickets went for 35. The first time we have made 400+ but in reality nowhere near enough. We needed 500+.
As most of us thought before the series had started, their attack is simply a different class from ours. Add in Smith v Root's performance and it is I guess no surprise. Now Overton has a cracked rib.
Cook will I guess retire at the end of the series. I can understand why England wanted him there especially based on Vince, Stoneman and Malan being so suspect before the series started.
A tough first away series for Root to captain
As most of us thought before the series had started, their attack is simply a different class from ours. Add in Smith v Root's performance and it is I guess no surprise. Now Overton has a cracked rib.
Cook will I guess retire at the end of the series. I can understand why England wanted him there especially based on Vince, Stoneman and Malan being so suspect before the series started.
A tough first away series for Root to captain
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Simon Hughes basically ripped the bowlers to shreds earlier on on TMS. While they don't have the extra mph, they didn't try much different either to make life difficult. Can see Anderson and Cook both going at the end of the series. One voluntarily, the other dropped to give someone else a chance
I feel really sorry for Strauss as well. Has had to deal with some of the idiots in the squad and now his wife is very ill.
I feel really sorry for Strauss as well. Has had to deal with some of the idiots in the squad and now his wife is very ill.
Marked Ox
Level: Mickey Lewis
(351 Apps, 7 Gls)
I can't see Anderson going with a summer in English conditions to come. Also, wasn't he the no.1 bowler in the world rankings at the end of the summer?
Have woken up to another embarrassment! 100-4..... Trailing by 145
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Trevor Bayliss has been alluding to shaking the team up for the good of everyone going forward - I can only imagine how frustrated he is seeing the team so easily give up. Our senior pace bowlers have looked meek and it's been down to an all rounder in his 2nd test with a rib injury to be the hardest bowler to play against. Anderson is a very good one trick pony at the moment. And the trick is thousands of miles away in a stable for Christmas.
This team has not played near to its potential. I'd look at playing Crane, look at getting Mark Wood back into the team. Our bowling cannot be any more meh than it already is
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...and then we can look at our batting
Malan has stepped up, Bairsrow as well. Poor series from Root but he'll bounce back. The rest of them? Lot of changes to come.
problem with Cricket is those behind selecting the national team seem to apply a set of unique rules and regs that elsewhwere in the world were deemed outdated in the 1950s
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Yup. I'm chuffed for Malan. He's got on with his job quietly and the century showed he's learnt in his time as a test match cricketer. Stoneman has been fine, not great, but fine. Vince should be taken to the test match knackers yard with Ballance. As for everything else. Sheesh. I do wonder if Mooen's mental frailties have been exposed on this tour and do we gain with a leg spinner what we lose with batting....and then we can look at our batting
I'm not sure of Jennings but it seems he's had a decent tour with Lions. The rest. It's lots of young blokes still learning their trade. I suppose with 4 more years to another trip to Aus, and with Stokes coming back in, now is the time to start again.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
Agree. We have to start looking at players who can't just play at home but can play in Australia, India and Sharjah.
We have to try Crane and Wood. Then maybe Jennings/ Hameed (if fit), maybe Livingstone.
We have a backbone. Root, Stokes, Bairstow. Malan. But as usual the bowling is the huge challenge
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
Definitely. We lack some gamers at the moment. I really like Moeen as a player, but he's disappeared on this tour. We need players who aren't afraid to give it back to the convicts and won't be intimidated by all their peacocking
Massively agree. Anderson, Broad et al are fantastic in England but unless we’re willing to accept that conditions are different in India, UAE and Australia, then England will continue to be pummelled in those places. We’ve got to take some brave and possibly unpopular decisions and play players who are more adaptable to those conditions.
The same can apply to Australia. Take Mitchell Johnson - a destroyer-in-chief Down Under in 2013-14 but his raw pace did nothing in 2013. They need to learn a few things to play to England conditions. They haven’t won a series here in years now so the same principle applies there too. If Khawaja, Handscomb and Bancroft toured England next summer, I think Broad would have a field day against them.
It makes me wonder whether a new method of selection is needed. The ODI side have been much more successful in choosing specialists and quick scorers in recent years. Maybe taking more gambles, choosing players based on individual skill sets and relegating a few players who aren’t adaptable may well be the method forward.
That's that then, cant see us regaining the Ashes for a LONG LONG time.
I know someones family who has tickets to the Boxing Day test. I would rather be in this country watching OUFC than watch the whitewash continue.
I know someones family who has tickets to the Boxing Day test. I would rather be in this country watching OUFC than watch the whitewash continue.
I’m not sure I agree. I can see us handily winning the Ashes in 2019 for the reasons I list above. The likes of Hazlewood, Starc, Smith, Warner et al have all toured England before and haven’t been able to win the Ashes. Their raw pace once the new ball has been seen off is redundant and their hard push drives and defensive shots lead to all sorts of nicks and caught behinds. Just watch the 10 wickets for their 60 all out in Trent Bridge. Clueless batting in English conditions.
That said, Cook and Anderson will almost certainly have departed from the scene by then so you’ll be looking at a very different team to be playing the Aussies by then.
Borntobeyellow
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Your so negative. I bet we beat them in England with a duke ball in the summer. Infact I will bet you we do.
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
This side needs a clear out, Bayliss has alluded to not doing it, but by god it needs it. Too mentally fragile away from home and a remarkable ability to keep playing the same shots and wondering why they get out. Talent is not an issue, but application is.
Now is the time to thank the likes of Cook, Anderson and Broad rebuild the team with a different mindset before the Aussies come back here. Root needs to remove the shackles of the previous regime and get players with more energy, mental strength and technique into the team. We don't need failures like Ballance in the squad again; it's not fair to the young talent we have.
Now is the time to thank the likes of Cook, Anderson and Broad rebuild the team with a different mindset before the Aussies come back here. Root needs to remove the shackles of the previous regime and get players with more energy, mental strength and technique into the team. We don't need failures like Ballance in the squad again; it's not fair to the young talent we have.
Foley
Level: Colin Harrington
(260 Apps, 30 Gls)
I think that for Tests Bayliss's position should be looked at.
I REALLY hope that Root doesn't mean it when he says that Anderson, Broad, Cook could all be playing in a years time.
Bayliss and Root are both suggesting that things carry on as normal. Maybe they are both saying that, giving Broad/ Cook the chance to retire. Hopefully this is the case.
Gary Baldi
Level: Paul Moody
(197 Apps, 75 Gls)
I suspect Lord Brockett won't entirely give them that chance. He can't be thrilled with how the current squad have pooped all over him and leaving as is won't be on his agenda. The culture in that team has to change as there is something wrong and there has been for a while.
pooshooter
Level: John Aldridge
(141 Apps, 90 Gls)
you don't like the chef do you?
