Sport Cricket - Winter 2021/2022

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This tour has been poor from start to finish (we'd have lost 5-0 if not for the weather). I woke up this morning when we were 58-0 and the optimistic 5Live pundits were wondering if we could win it, or at least get close. A couple of hours later and it's all over with yet another pathetic batting performance to blame.

It's tempting to want to throw the baby out with the bath water, but who could you replace the sub-standard players with? I suspect the answer is 'other sub-standard players'! I do worry that the concentration on white ball cricket (both in this country and elsewhere) is putting test cricket at serious risk.
 
ZeroTheHero said:
This tour has been poor from start to finish (we'd have lost 5-0 if not for the weather). I woke up this morning when we were 58-0 and the optimistic 5Live pundits were wondering if we could win it, or at least get close. A couple of hours later and it's all over with yet another pathetic batting performance to blame.

It's tempting to want to throw the baby out with the bath water, but who could you replace the sub-standard players with? I suspect the answer is 'other sub-standard players'! I do worry that the concentration on white ball cricket (both in this country and elsewhere) is putting test cricket at serious risk.
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With 3 short form versions of the game and 1 long it’s pretty indicative of where the game is going, if you want to be a professional cricketer in the future you would be a bit mad to specialise in the longer stuff, most of the matches you play and all the money will be in the smash and bash stuff.
 
www.bbc.co.uk

'Time to replace the County Championship'

After England's latest Ashes humbling in Australia, Jonathan Agnew says the County Championship should be replaced in order to save the England Test team.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

"Therefore, I am proposing that we take the eight teams from The Hundred, add two more, and create a new first-class competition that replaces the County Championship.
It would not involve the same players as The Hundred, but you could have the same system of a draft. In one move it ensures that the best are playing against the best, it cuts down on the number of games and it is easier to thread first-class cricket throughout the summer."

Discuss!
 
Essexyellows said:
www.bbc.co.uk

'Time to replace the County Championship'

After England's latest Ashes humbling in Australia, Jonathan Agnew says the County Championship should be replaced in order to save the England Test team.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

"Therefore, I am proposing that we take the eight teams from The Hundred, add two more, and create a new first-class competition that replaces the County Championship.
It would not involve the same players as The Hundred, but you could have the same system of a draft. In one move it ensures that the best are playing against the best, it cuts down on the number of games and it is easier to thread first-class cricket throughout the summer."

Discuss!
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inteeresting concept - ecb wont 'go for it' though
 
Essexyellows said:
www.bbc.co.uk

'Time to replace the County Championship'

After England's latest Ashes humbling in Australia, Jonathan Agnew says the County Championship should be replaced in order to save the England Test team.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

"Therefore, I am proposing that we take the eight teams from The Hundred, add two more, and create a new first-class competition that replaces the County Championship.
It would not involve the same players as The Hundred, but you could have the same system of a draft. In one move it ensures that the best are playing against the best, it cuts down on the number of games and it is easier to thread first-class cricket throughout the summer."

Discuss!
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No, Aggers, no! The CC is not the problem - the value of it held by the ECB is the issue. Don't shunt your pathway to test cricket to March-May and September-October and then complain when you haven't got any Test players who can bat and spinners who can bowl on dry pitches. The game does not need another new format.

I'm a firm defender of the BBC but their endless championing of The Hundred pissed me right off. I know they're not going to hate on something they actually had some rights to show but they bigged it up far more than it was worth. The knives should be out for The Hundred to free up valuable space for CC matches. Also, make sure you have two days of CC games falling on weekends. If you want a money-spinning short form, make the counties go full franchise style for T20 and make the blast compete with the IPL and BBL, not The Hundred.

If you want Test cricket to be in pinnacle of the game, value the conveyor belt that gets players there and that means playing the long format during the summer.
 
unification said:
No, Aggers, no! The CC is not the problem - the value of it held by the ECB is the issue. Don't shunt your pathway to test cricket to March-May and September-October and then complain when you haven't got any Test players who can bat and spinners who can bowl on dry pitches. The game does not need another new format.

I'm a firm defender of the BBC but their endless championing of The Hundred pissed me right off. I know they're not going to hate on something they actually had some rights to show but they bigged it up far more than it was worth. The knives should be out for The Hundred to free up valuable space for CC matches. Also, make sure you have two days of CC games falling on weekends. If you want a money-spinning short form, make the counties go full franchise style for T20 and make the blast compete with the IPL and BBL, not The Hundred.

If you want Test cricket to be in pinnacle of the game, value the conveyor belt that gets players there and that means playing the long format during the summer.
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Exactly this...... ditch The Hundred, the only reason not to is the value of the deal.

100% with 2 days of CC on a weekend.

Which leaves enough room for T20 midweek.
 
unification said:
The CC is not the problem
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The problem with the CC is there are too many counties, so the talent gets spread too thinly. A franchise competition in the 4 day game above the CC I may be in favour of, despite it being detrimental to Middlesex. But it would have to be played in peak times not shunted to the edges of the season. No more than 4 teams, and get the best of the players competing against each other.
 
SteMerritt said:
The problem with the CC is there are too many counties, so the talent gets spread too thinly.
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Agreed. There needs to be a much smaller number of regional teams who play higher quality 4 day games during the summer (as opposed to spring and autumn!). It won't happen though, the county structure is too entrenched in the structure of the game in this country - and they are happy enough to take the one day, T20 and Hundred money to want to change, with an occasional test match to bolster the coffers.
 
43-6 now, what is our lowest ever T20 score? This is pitiful.
 
The nightmare continues tonight with the second T20 v WI. England batting first, 36-0 off 5.
 
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