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It’s clear to see that this thread is following the pattern of the Brexit thread.
Those posters with a leaning to the “red” side will only post eloquently written negatives based on there political bias and believe absolutely nothing of what the “blue” ruling party have to say.

tabloids front pages, today.... many of which previously backed bojo, Cummings n co to the hilt :oops:


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I've banned the news from the household but for once in the day. It's become an addictive sideshow and made some people overtly paranoid about all sorts of random stuff, and with the sensationalist parts of the media moving on from one part of the crisis to another, it doles out that dopamine hit each day to those in need.

The state of panic is not healthy, so the media have to be better to calm people rather than hype them up each day. The likes of Piers Moron have become deranged and its embarrassing to watch
We had similar situations with swine flu and mad cow’s which ultimately didnt amount to much. I think people were so relieved that they forgot how embarrassing the media were at the outset. Its about time they were held accountable for the s**t they peddle. Yes, I do feel very strongly about this. ‘Media’ is now spliced into our everyday lives, its scary how influential to the masses it can be. News outlets - the ’respected’ ones like BBC included - should act more responsibly. Im beginning to feel as equally concerned with my 13 year old son accessing it as porn!
 
It’s clear to see that this thread is following the pattern of the Brexit thread.
Those posters with a leaning to the “red” side will only post eloquently written negatives based on there political bias and believe absolutely nothing of what the “blue” ruling party have to say.
And by default disbelieve anything that the Chief Medical/Scientific Officers have to say.

...and those prone to glib over-simplification will still be so. Apparently.
 
It’s clear to see that this thread is following the pattern of the Brexit thread.
Those posters with a leaning to the “red” side will only post eloquently written negatives based on there political bias and believe absolutely nothing of what the “blue” ruling party have to say.
And by default disbelieve anything that the Chief Medical/Scientific Officers have to say.
Its not about what the CMO advises. Its about - to quote the great MApp - cutting out all the ‘white noise’ bollox from the media that misinterprets the information and causes panic among a very gullible population. Yes, the mass population, as a whole, shouldnt be so dim, but the news outlets, in my opinion, know exactly what they're doing. ‘If it bleeds then it leads’ is apparently a quote used widely by editors so Im told by someone who used to work for a paper.
 
Sorry to P**s on your chips @Sarge but your collection of images and meme`s is both ridiculously selective and wrong.

In our Trust....
Up to midnight 1st April.
Confirmed Inpatients: 129
Discharged: 68
Deceased: 26

We still have 180 spare beds with ventilation capacity, we are expecting the maximum peak over Easter.

You have also neglected the work done on ventilators by the F1 teams, Dyson et al which isn`t needed (yet).

When it comes to testing it is a novel virus, its new you can`t just hit and hope with a similar test you need a new one!
Above all you need one that works and one testing kit has already failed spectacularly.
That means NHS staff could have been tested as clear and gone to work.............. bit like lobbing a hand grenade into the staffroom and one into a ward for good measure.

There are also two types of test "have you got it" (primarily for inpatients) and "have you had it" although nobody knows if you get 100% immunity if you have had it.
 
Sorry to P**s on your chips @Sarge but your collection of images and meme`s is both ridiculously selective and wrong.
tabloids front pages, today.... many of which previously backed bojo, Cummings n co to the hilt :oops:


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Not ideal but these are unprecedented times and in many respects we are learning as we go.

There is no doubt mistakes will be made along the way and we will learn a lot once we have a public enquiry about how this situation was managed.

As much as a I respect that you have your own views and opinions Sarge, I do think that you are trying too hard to use this situation to poke another stick at the Conservatives.

In all honesty no government will get every decision right, particularly during times like these, but If this was a labour government and these were the headlines, I do wonder whether you would have still poked the stick?

Now is not the time to gain political points. We are all in this together and we all have a responsibility to help each other get through this.
 
We had similar situations with swine flu and mad cow’s which ultimately didnt amount to much. I think people were so relieved that they forgot how embarrassing the media were at the outset. Its about time they were held accountable for the s**t they peddle. Yes, I do feel very strongly about this. ‘Media’ is now spliced into our everyday lives, its scary how influential to the masses it can be. News outlets - the ’respected’ ones like BBC included - should act more responsibly. Im beginning to feel as equally concerned with my 13 year old son accessing it as porn!
Agree. The media need to inform, but should be more responsible how they message, and yeah, be accountable for all of their content when they spread half truths - Peston was a great example of narrative over facts - and not get away with it again. Where we needed the media to be calm, some have, some have been less careful.
 
i hope once all this is over the attention will be focused on the disgusting chinese wet markets.
prevention better than the cure and all that.
this was written in 2006:

 
Haven't got a clue of this is true but it's what is currently being claimed on Twitter.

'It’s true. UK could have signed up for the EU ventilator scheme, but didn’t. So they lost out on 15,000 ventilators and an extra 12,000 by mid April... several European newspapers reported this'
 
I see we’ve gone beyond “don’t politicise political decisions made by politicians” and are now into “the bloody media should stop reporting things that might make people angry at what’s gone on here”.

So we don’t talk about things now because it’s unhelpful during a crisis, we don’t talk about it afterwards because instead of dwelling on the past we should move on, and if we talk about how unprepared we are before something actually happens it’s a sign of hysteria.

If someone could lay out the rules of when we can talk about this, and when we can discuss the fact that while you can never be perfectly prepared for a pandemic you can certainly be vastly better prepared to cope than we were, not to mention make far better and quicker decisions to prevent something you know for a fact is coming, that would be great. Because at present all I’m hearing is “don’t ever make government policy responsible for any events that occur as a direct result of those calls, and don’t talk about it before, during or after any problems reveal themselves.”

As for the bright spark who wants to talk about genocide, the word literally means “the deliberate killing of a large group of people.” Which if (IF IF IF IF IF) we were still pursuing herd immunity on the sly is exactly what would be happening.

Read a f*****g dictionary.
Herd immunity is not happening on the sly. It’s happening naturally. You shouldn’t be using such grotesque words as genocide.
 
The big lie is the name of a propaganda technique, originally coined by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, and denotes where a known falsehood is stated and repeated and treated as if it is self-evidently true, in hopes of swaying the course of an argument in a direction that takes the big lie for granted rather than critically questioning it or ignoring it.

The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.
—Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

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What exactly are you on about?
 
What exactly are you on about?
can I refer you to @QR 's post above ^^ ? .... one of many examples of the fact that' we' are being lied to daily by this Government

here's some more of the many examples...

Govt: We're talking to supermarkets
Supermarkets: You're not.

Govt: There's a shortage of chemicals
Chemicals companies: There isn't

Govt: The science has changed
Scientists: No it hasn't

Govt: We never got the email
EU: Yes you did

Govt: 25,000 tests per day
PHE: 7,000 tests per day

Govt: Ventilator companies are making ventilators for us
Ventilator Companies: you never got back to us. Dyson are though.

Govt: We've got 30,000 ventilators coming
Dyson: actually, it's 30 for now

Govt: PPE has been delivered
NHS: No it hasn't

Govt: We've built the Nightingale
Nurses: but no one can staff it though

Govt: Unprecedented economic package!
Self-employed: Not until June!

Govt: Banks will give you short term loans
Banks: 40% overdraft rates and we want your home as collateral

Govt: Save the NHS
Me: You bastards have been killing it for the last decade

Govt: We are not pursuing Herd immunity
WHO: Yes you are

Govt: We are not lying
Media: oh ok, good job old boy
 
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i hope once all this is over the attention will be focused on the disgusting chinese wet markets.
prevention better than the cure and all that.
this was written in 2006:


Couldn’t agree more. China need to be held accountable and should make a contribute to recompense the global economies... although I very much doubt that can happen.

Time to stop reliance on China products and boycott.
 
Couldn’t agree more. China need to be held accountable and should make a contribute to recompense the global economies... although I very much doubt that can happen.

Time to stop reliance on China products and boycott.
Absolutely.... however you can't avoid global challenges arising and the issue here is how our government is dealing with this one. Ours is demonstrating incompetence and dishonesty. Why defend them?
 
I think the attitude that 'it is a crisis, so you cannot criticise how it is being handled, or question whether you are being told the truth' is bizarre in the extreme. This is EXACTLY the time when politicians (and those in Government particularly) have to show their qualities. But because someone might have questions about some of what is being done that does not follow that they are just going to ignore advice or endanger other people. No government should get a 'free pass' ESPECIALLY in a situation like this.
And when it's all quietened down (I won't say 'over') watch these same politicians claim 'victory' for political purposes, and the ones on the other side claim that little the government did was right at all. The truth will lie somewhere in the middle.
 
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