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I'm not the one who has come om here slagging GPs off, moaning about their 6 bedroom houses on the day the Daily Mail talks about league tables to "shame doctors who won't see patients". You are so transparent.

As I said why don't you train up to be a doctor?
I don't read the Daily Mail. The rest of it I can't be bothered to engage with you on, you cannot debate with people, you just argue blindly and wouldn't dare be convinced of anything but your ingrained beliefs
 
Using video calls etc has made my GPs more efficient and have been able to see more patients. Likewise, it has worked well in Hospital with outpatients and that is from talking to multiple Doctors/Consultants as I've seen rather a lot over the last year.
I agree however not everyone has access to the facility of using video calls whether by zoom or FaceTime or some other way.
 
Has it though? I'm not clear how exactly a video call takes any less time than a face to face, in fact, in quite a lot of cases, I'd of expected it to take longer...

I agree with regards to hospitals, it makes more sense

Yes it has as confirmed by GPs, Receptionists and Practice Nurses.
 
I'm not the one who has come om here slagging GPs off, moaning about their 6 bedroom houses on the day the Daily Mail talks about league tables to "shame doctors who won't see patients". You are so transparent.

As I said why don't you train up to be a doctor?
My father in law surgery is Botley medical centre and my own family used them at surgery for almost 39 years but with my family grown up and all moved out of the area to use the Botley medical centre as had my wife and I, in recent months with the reports and such I’m bloody well glad that we have changed surgery’s. They took over Kennington surgery a while back and to my knowledge they still only had 4 Dr’s when considering they cater for up to 8,000 patients it is crazy.
Back to my father in law, my wife has authority to speak to the surgery on his behalf. She rang the other day about his booster jab and flu vaccination and she was told they’re not doing the boosters and they have to book themselves for the flu jab, yet in the past they were informed by text or letter so if my wife hadn’t rung he would be none the wiser.
This surgery had been placed in special measures and could close if there is no improvement. Is this down to lack of GP’s? No as in all the time we were patients at the surgery it only ever had 4 GP’s and the best one out of the lot was Dr Blazewicz you could get an appointment with any Dr within a couple of days and on occasion the same day but Dr Blazewicz 3/4 weeks as he was so thorough.
 
I agree however not everyone has access to the facility of using video calls whether by zoom or FaceTime or some other way.

The GPs also do straight telephone calls which can deal with many situations. But agree that not everyone has access to video calls and all alternatives need to be available depending on the patient. From my experience, F2F happens if necessary after a telephone call (minimum).
 
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The GPs also do straight telephone calls which can deal with many situations. But agree that not everyone has access to video calls and all alternatives need to be available depending on the patient. From my experience, F2F happens if necessary after a telephone call (minimum).
True, but I also have to think about the elderly and the use of anything other than F2F would not be off any use.
My father 92 years old can hardly hear even with hearing aids and his eyesight is very poor, he lives in Minchery Farm and his Dr’s surgery is Temple Cowley and it’s a b****r to get there he doesn’t drive any more but even if he could there is insufficient parking.
There does need to be a shake up and an investigation/consultation with the general public and the health department to explore ways in which these once great surgeries are now poor in comparison not what they were. I also agree there are some very good surgeries out there but they don’t have room for more patients so this is a serious matter that needs to be looked at urgently.
 
BBC has just reported that 58%of appointments are face to face. You wouldn't know it going on some comments on here.
 
BBC has just reported that 58%of appointments are face to face. You wouldn't know it going on some comments on here.
You should quote the whole sentence next time...

In the first full month since restrictions were lifted only 58% of patients were seen in person - nowhere near the pre-pandemic levels of 80%.

You should go into politics sir
 
You should quote the whole sentence next time...

In the first full month since restrictions were lifted only 58% of patients were seen in person - nowhere near the pre-pandemic levels of 80%.

You should go into politics sir
Why should it be at 80%? Is 80/20 the most efficient ratio?
 
BBC has just reported that 58%of appointments are face to face. You wouldn't know it going on some comments on here.

What the BBC actually reported..............

"In the first full month since restrictions were lifted only 58% of patients were seen in person - nowhere near the pre-pandemic levels of 80%. To change this, the funding should allow surgeries to recruit extra locum staff as well as physios and podiatrists. And to help more same-day appointments there are plans to relax social distancing rules so more people can be seen at practice sites."
 
PS: I`m fully in favour of a hybrid model of HOW patient's appointments take place and WHO they have the appointment with.

You don`t need a GP for something a nurse, chiropodist or any other specialist can fix. :)

As long as the patient is involved in the decision making about their care.
 
Why should it be at 80%? Is 80/20 the most efficient ratio?
I just wanted to call out you massaging the information to support your own argument, doing what you so eloquently accuse the Tories of 😀
 
I just wanted to call out you massaging the information to support your own argument, doing what you so eloquently accuse the Tories of 😀
What massaging?
Anyway as you don't think 58% is enough what percentage would be most efficient?
 
You should quote the whole sentence next time...

In the first full month since restrictions were lifted only 58% of patients were seen in person - nowhere near the pre-pandemic levels of 80%.

You should go into politics sir
Also why do you think it should it be anywhere near pre pandemic levels anyway considering this fact. In the four week from 5 Sept 2020 730 people died within 28 days of a positive Covid test in the UK. In the four weeks from 4 September 2021 3,749 people died within 28 days of a positive test result.
 
Also why do you think it should it be anywhere near pre pandemic levels anyway considering this fact. In the four week from 5 Sept 2020 730 people died within 28 days of a positive Covid test in the UK. In the four weeks from 4 September 2021 3,749 people died within 28 days of a positive test result.

Explained that previously............. high volume testing creates a larger potential deadpool.
There are (roughly) 800k more tests per day in 2021 (Sept 1st 2021 - 921k tests) than in 2020 (Sept 1st 2020 - 171k tests)
All part of that Test & Trace scheme you see.......... might have been a slow start but its chugging along well now.
 
Explained that previously............. high volume testing creates a larger potential deadpool.
There are (roughly) 800k more tests per day in 2021 (Sept 1st 2021 - 921k tests) than in 2020 (Sept 1st 2020 - 171k tests)
All part of that Test & Trace scheme you see.......... might have been a slow start but its chugging along well now.
Are you saying there were many more people dying with Covid in (say) September 2020 than the official stats say because, despite the fact they were dying, they weren't tested for covid?
 
Are you saying there were many more people dying with Covid in (say) September 2020 than the official stats say because, despite the fact they were dying, they weren't tested for covid?
Nice try to conflate what I said...........

If a larger number of people are A: Being tested then you will get B: More positive cases leading to C: More people "within 28 days of a positive test" which is the Covid death definition. Or the Covid Deadpool.

Then - How deaths were & are counted has evolved over the course of the pandemic.

Then - The volume/capacity of testing has increased greatly.

Throw in all those factors and it precludes direct comparison between Sept 2020 and Sept 2021.

Lies, damned lies and statistics eh. 🤷‍♀️
 
I know several family friends who are nurses within GP surgeries and they feel completely let down by GPs, they've still been seeing patients face to face while GPs have been seen to be taking liberties with the amount of time hiding away...

Unlike you, I don't need a newspaper to tell me what to think
Yes rather than reading what experts and experienced writers say you rely on what ‘some bloke reckons’. Makes sense.

No one is hiding away or skiving, we need the government to fund more GPs, though I agree that a phone or video consultation can be a good thing if it’s ‘available promptly. GPs are fairly well paid but they are qualified and doing a vital job, not sure you’d expect them to get any less.
 
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