Current Staff Coaching set-up

[MJB]

Local BBC is reporting that current coaching set-up, including Faz, is to remain but rejigged and potentially added to alongside the introduction of the Under-23 system we’re introducing.

Pleased to hear it, personally.

 

[Marked Ox]

Local BBC is reporting that current coaching set-up, including Faz, is to remain but rejigged and potentially added to alongside the introduction of the Under-23 system we’re introducing.

Pleased to hear it, personally.

There is an article about it in the Oxford Mail as well.

 

[MJB]

Local BBC is reporting that current coaching set-up, including Faz, is to remain but rejigged and potentially added to alongside the introduction of the Under-23 system we’re introducing.

Pleased to hear it, personally.

There is an article about it in the Oxford Mail as well.

Ah, sorry, haven’t seen that.

 

[uptheus]

Shaun Derry in then!

 

[Shabby Yellow]

Hmm he was at our last home game. I assumed he was scouting for someone.

 

[RATC]

Hmm he was at our last home game. I assumed he was scouting for someone.

He's been at a few now. He was at our game against Southend aswell.

 

[Deleted member 222]

My money is on Richie Barker joining the coaching set up.

 

[Sarge]

Sixteen wheels is a good base for a coach.... anything less is a minibus

 

[The Hawk]

Allen demoted
Shame
Surprised Faz is still at the club. I thought it was damning on him how how Kr sorted the defence in 2 weeks.

 

[Jimmy Ike]

Allen demoted
Shame
Surprised Faz is still at the club. I thought it was damning on him how how Kr sorted the defence in 2 weeks.

Yep, I was thinking that too. Now maybe there really is that gulf of difference between those who're managers and those who're coaches, but the change was pretty darned swift once KR got his feet under the table.

 

[Sarge]

Maybe Faz wanted one more year/season?
Perhaps the new U23 squad main man job is more of a sideways move for a Head coach assistant, assistant?
With a number of U23 squad players intended to also be first team squad players too, maybe KR trusts Chrissy
Allen to be his eyes n ears in a hands-on way for who should be called up for the first team squad?

 

[ZeroTheHero]

Actually, given the emphasis on the importance of having a U23 squad that regularly provides players for the first team and Allen's good reputation for getting the best out of young players I think that is a very sensible move. I suspect next season might be Faz's last with us.

 

[Deleted member 462]

I don’t know about a backwards step for Chrissy, first team coach with not much responsibility, or u23 manager, trusted on bringing through the next generation of players and getting them to a level they can play a part in the first team. I would say sideways step at worse.

 

[Sarge]

I don’t know about a backwards step for Chrissy, first team coach with not much responsibility, or u23 manager, trusted on bringing through the next generation of players and getting them to a level they can play a part in the first team. I would say sideways step at worse.

what I said ...two posts ago

 

[The Hawk]

Assistant regional manager
Assistant to the regional manager, yeah
Hmmm. The first team coach being told to take charge of the kids is a downgrade sadly. Swallow it down how you like.
If Allen is replaced I think Faz is a waste of a wage.

 

[Morris Oxford]

Allen demoted
Shame
Surprised Faz is still at the club. I thought it was damning on him how how Kr sorted the defence in 2 weeks.

Personally I don’t see it that way.

At the moment Allen is behind Faz in the pecking order, assistant to the assistant. Being in charge of the u23s is potentially a more rewarding position.

I’m a bit surprised to see Faz staying to be honest, if KR is bringing in his own man where does Faz fit in?

In his defence Faz inherited a very unbalanced and demotivated squad from Clotet. Robinson benefited from the fact Kane & Dickie had started to settle in, and with the skipper coming back from injury earlier than expected. Faz also had his hands tied over playing Ricardinho re his contract for next season. That’s not to say I don’t think KR did a very good job after he came in.

 

[Deleted member 462]

Assistant regional manager
Assistant to the regional manager, yeah
Hmmm. The first team coach being told to take charge of the kids is a downgrade sadly. Swallow it down how you like.
If Allen is replaced I think Faz is a waste of a wage.

Unlike u to see the negative in the situation, oh no wait it isn’t is it.

I think it’s a great thing the club is adding an u23 side.

I think Chrissy is a great choice to run that team with the success he had before with the youth side .

As I said ages ago I could see Chrissy taking this role, which will tie in with the first team. And faz becoming head of recruitment/chief scout a position were still short of, which he has experience in, which also lets him take a step back from being so full time on the training pitch, and still let Karl bring in someone he wants as his no2

 

[The Hawk]

Unlike u to see the negative in the situation, oh no wait it isn’t is it.

I think it’s a great thing the club is adding an u23 side.

I think Chrissy is a great choice to run that team with the success he had before with the youth side .

As I said ages ago I could see Chrissy taking this role, which will tie in with the first team. And faz becoming head of recruitment/chief scout a position were still short of, which he has experience in, which also lets him take a step back from being so full time on the training pitch, and still let Karl bring in someone he wants as his no2

You can’t wait to jump on anyone not sucking down the kool aid eh?

There is nothing negative for oufc that Allen has been demoted from a first team position to one looking after the kids

Its a good thing. Even better if Faz is eventually moved elsewhere too

But not a particularly positive thing for Allen I’d have thought. That is if he has genuine aspirations of making it in this field

 

[Marked Ox]

You can’t wait to jump on anyone not sucking down the kool aid eh?

There is nothing negative for oufc that Allen has been demoted from a first team position to one looking after the kids

Its a good thing. Even better if Faz is eventually moved elsewhere too

But not a particularly positive thing for Allen I’d have thought. That is if he has genuine aspirations of making it in this field

It could be a positive thing for Chrissy Allen if he builds a long term career in this type of position, head of an academy etc.

 

[Ox4Eva]

Why is everything turned into a negative on here!

It's a positive step for the club and also allows Chrissy a chance to be his own man and make a name for himself.

 

[Deleted member 462]

Unlike u to see the negative in the situation, oh no wait it isn’t is it.

I think it’s a great thing the club is adding an u23 side.

I think Chrissy is a great choice to run that team with the success he had before with the youth side .

As I said ages ago I could see Chrissy taking this role, which will tie in with the first team. And faz becoming head of recruitment/chief scout a position were still short of, which he has experience in, which also lets him take a step back from being so full time on the training pitch, and still let Karl bring in someone he wants as his no2

You can’t wait to jump on anyone not sucking down the kool aid eh?

There is nothing negative for oufc that Allen has been demoted from a first team position to one looking after the kids

Its a good thing. Even better if Faz is eventually moved elsewhere too

But not a particularly positive thing for Allen I’d have thought. That is if he has genuine aspirations of making it in this field

Kool aid you say ? Hummmm who do u sound like ??

 

[The Hawk]

It could be a positive thing for Chrissy Allen if he builds a long term career in this type of position, head of an academy etc.

If an academy job is his ambition that’s great. If he wants to be a manager less so

 

[Marked Ox]

If an academy job is his ambition that’s great. If he wants to be a manager less so

I bet longevity is better in the Academy side of things.

 

[Navegante]

Surprised Faz is still at the club. I thought it was damning on him how how Kr sorted the defence in 2 weeks.

Somewhat simplistic view (surprising from a published sports author) - many different elements impact individual and team performance rather than just the drills on the training field.

Perhaps the upturn in performances was more down to KR's man-management & psychology rather than due to an improvement in coaching? Faz has been a No 2 his whole career, he's a quality coach for this level. Harsh to judge and compare his performance as a No 1 against established gaffers such as KR.

 

[uptheus]

Unlike u to see the negative in the situation, oh no wait it isn’t is it.

I think it’s a great thing the club is adding an u23 side.

I think Chrissy is a great choice to run that team with the success he had before with the youth side .

As I said ages ago I could see Chrissy taking this role, which will tie in with the first team. And faz becoming head of recruitment/chief scout a position were still short of, which he has experience in, which also lets him take a step back from being so full time on the training pitch, and still let Karl bring in someone he wants as his no2

I think Faz made some fundamental mistakes e.g. putting Raglan out on loan, dropping Ricardinho etc.

 

[Foley]

Somewhat simplistic view (surprising from a published sports author) - many different elements impact individual and team performance rather than just the drills on the training field.

Perhaps the upturn in performances was more down to KR's man-management & psychology rather than due to an improvement in coaching? Faz has been a No 2 his whole career, he's a quality coach for this level. Harsh to judge and compare his performance as a No 1 against established gaffers such as KR.

Maybe. I must admit thay I was really surprised when under Pep and DF we were awful at defending and yet KR managed to turn it round so quickly and so effectively within a couple of weeks.
Surely coaching has to be part of that improvement?

 

[Foley]

I bet longevity is better in the Academy side of things.

Unquestionably.
I get the point though that it makes CA less likely to be a manager of a first team.
If that id his ambition (to be an Academy manager) then it is a good move for him.

 

[Deleted member 462]

I bet longevity is better in the Academy side of things.

Unquestionably.
I get the point though that it makes CA less likely to be a manager of a first team.
If that id his ambition (to be an Academy manager) then it is a good move for him.

I don’t know that it does now though. When we were on our 8 week hunt for a manager how many of the front runners were academy heads/u23 managers ? Quite a few like Bellamy and unsworth. How many were first team coaches ? I think u23 manager is actually now a decent step into going to the next stage, as u get the experience of “managing” a team yourself

 

[Whingit]

It's hardly a demotion for CA, Hawk. Remember that nobody at the club is being paid, so moving from one voluntary post to another one makes no difference.

 

[Deleted member 291]

James Beattie did a fine job at Accrington as manager and now has had numerous coaching jobs higher up.

Everyone's personal ambition is their own and they can chose their own path.