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The season hasn't ended.
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The season hasn't ended.
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I'd say that hasn't ended until the play offs have been fully decided.
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Precedent has been set very recently.
Also, under your plan Derby get further financial benefit (after getting caught for financial shenanigans) with many more £ms* from central FL funds for being in the Championship. So you are going to punish another team that has followed the rules to the tune of £ms, how is that fair?
*Iirc, a difference between the Championship and L1 is getting towards £5m.
The Leagues haven't ended until the FL AGM. This has been underlined by the action taken against Macclesfield.
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After being cleared in August then playing a whole season to then be found guilty of a part of the initial charge after an eventful season of differing emotions would be awful.
Should have been found guilty in aug and punished or punished for the following season.
So Wycombe get punished instead, that seems fair...
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How the hell do wyc get punished ??
FWIW the EFL website says this:
If the points deduction was handed down during the Normal Playing Season but prior to 5.00pm on the fourth Thursday in March, the points deduction would apply immediately (12.3.1).
If the point deduction was handed down after the Normal Playing Season has ended, the points deduction takes effect from the start of the next season (12.3.3).
If the points deduction is handed down after that date in March but before the end of the Normal Playing Season, the points deduction would only be applied if it meant the team would be relegated:
Rule 12.4.2: "Where the circumstances set out in Regulation 12.3.2 apply and at the end of that Season, having regard to the number of championship points awarded (ignoring any potential deduction): the Club would not be relegated as aforesaid, the points deduction will apply in that Season and Regulation 10.1.2(b) or 7.7 (i.e. relegation from that division) will then apply (if appropriate) following imposition of the points deduction."
The Normal Playing Season is "the period of the year commencing with the first League Match and, for each Club, ending immediately after the completion of the Club’s final fixture of the League Competition, excluding any Play-Off matches."
I'm not sure what an Insolvency Event is, which is what the points deductions referred to in these provisions relate to, so the rules may be different for a more minor breach of FFP. But, assuming the Derby appeal was rejected before 230 PM on Saturday, it does seem like Wycombe might, annoyingly, have a leg to stand on.
If the points deduction was handed down during the Normal Playing Season but prior to 5.00pm on the fourth Thursday in March, the points deduction would apply immediately (12.3.1).
If the point deduction was handed down after the Normal Playing Season has ended, the points deduction takes effect from the start of the next season (12.3.3).
If the points deduction is handed down after that date in March but before the end of the Normal Playing Season, the points deduction would only be applied if it meant the team would be relegated:
Rule 12.4.2: "Where the circumstances set out in Regulation 12.3.2 apply and at the end of that Season, having regard to the number of championship points awarded (ignoring any potential deduction): the Club would not be relegated as aforesaid, the points deduction will apply in that Season and Regulation 10.1.2(b) or 7.7 (i.e. relegation from that division) will then apply (if appropriate) following imposition of the points deduction."
The Normal Playing Season is "the period of the year commencing with the first League Match and, for each Club, ending immediately after the completion of the Club’s final fixture of the League Competition, excluding any Play-Off matches."
I'm not sure what an Insolvency Event is, which is what the points deductions referred to in these provisions relate to, so the rules may be different for a more minor breach of FFP. But, assuming the Derby appeal was rejected before 230 PM on Saturday, it does seem like Wycombe might, annoyingly, have a leg to stand on.
Losing out on near £5m in revenue from central FL funding that Derby would get instead.
It all depends on the date the FL take to be when this decision was made. The lawyers will be sharpening their pencils as we speak.
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EFL wins part of appeal against Derby
The EFL wins part of an appeal against Derby County over some of the Championship club's accounting policies.
www.bbc.co.uk
So nothing will happen as the same committee that thought Derby did nothing wrong will decide on the punishment.
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Just relegate Derby as well and promote both Play off finalists............ sorted. 
Good
Club comments on Derby County situation
Wycombe Wanderers acknowledge the situation in relation to potential sanctions being issued to Derby County, which may have ramifications which affect the Chairboys if a decision is taken to deduct points from Derby in the 2020/21 season.
www.wycombewanderers.co.uk
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IIRC Leicester breached the FFP rules to make it to the PL and were "only" fined £31 million which they paid.
Probably find that "Wayne Rooneys" Derby will get a fine or a points deduction carried over to next season.
Probably find that "Wayne Rooneys" Derby will get a fine or a points deduction carried over to next season.
Club comments on Derby County situation
Wycombe Wanderers acknowledge the situation in relation to potential sanctions being issued to Derby County, which may have ramifications which affect the Chairboys if a decision is taken to deduct points from Derby in the 2020/21 season.
And surprise, surprise Wycombe manage to ram the claim of poverty completely unnecessarily into the article. They really don't do themselves any favours.
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Potentially having a 12 point penalty next season will actually be worse for Derby in the long run than getting it this season and being relegated, as it will in all likelihood just delay the whole process by a year...(unless enough money (!) can be thrown at the squad to overhaul the penalty next season and stay up). Wednesday couldnt claw back 6points, so if Derby get the full 12, then they are going to find it difficult.
