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Current Player Thread Brian De Keersmaecker

Chrisox said:
I think we should cut are loses on him and get rid know we will be out of pocket but at least we save on his wages a clean break no loan deals. We need no bad attitudes in the club.
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How do we save on wages unless he is sold.
He ain't going anywhere unless he gets another club willing to pay parity with his current wages.
Cometh Wednesday he will know if he is still an Oxford player and if so has to commit else he may find his career nose diving
 
OxfordNondie said:
How do we save on wages unless he is sold.
He ain't going anywhere unless he gets another club willing to pay parity with his current wages.
Cometh Wednesday he will know if he is still an Oxford player and if so has to commit else he may find his career nose diving
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I think we need actively look to off load him we are not in a position to continue paying his wages if he is not interested in getting fit and making him self available.
 
Chrisox said:
I think we need actively look to off load him we are not in a position to continue paying his wages if he is not interested in getting fit and making him self available.
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His bad attitude and lack of fitness is bound to put many clubs
 
Chrisox said:
I think we need actively look to off load him we are not in a position to continue paying his wages if he is not interested in getting fit and making him self available.
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How much are you willing to let him go for? My understanding was that his original release clause was set at around £2.6m. This increases as we get closer to the deadline, so let's say its £3m on there abouts now.

Would you take £1m just to get him off our books?

And if we did, what do you think every other player would do in January if we're still under an embargo?

What would stop any of them from throwing a strop, knowing that we'd rather let them leave than have bad apples around the club.

For me, its really simple. If the release clause is met, and BdK fancies a move, he goes. If not, he stays.
 
From the point of view of how we do on the pitch, I can't see it makes much difference if he stays or goes. He isn't going to be up to speed for months if he is as unfit as has been said. The only point in keeping him seems to be to avoid upsetting other players who might have wished to move.

But having him hang about (and paying him to do so) doesn't seem like a brilliant option either.

Whether anyone seriously wants to buy him is another matter of course.
 
For everyone involved his agent needs to get him to understand that he needs to get fit, to play his a**e off and play like he loves the game.

All this talk of offloading or getting rid is stupid .
The club won’t sell him off cheap and no one is buying a player that is disinterested.

He needs to sort himself out and quickly
 
Apart from one comment from Ramsey that is open to interpretation, I've not seen any actual evidence that he has a bad attitude or is deliberately making himself unavailable. Clearly he is unfit and needs to put in a lot of effort in training (presumably one to one) and in the gym, but again, I've not seen proof that he isn't doing so, just a lot of uninformed chatter on here.

Hopefully he is able to get back to full fitness and play his part in shooting us up the table. We know he's a good player, we just need to get him firing on all cylinders so he can contribute.
 
Scotchegg said:
How much are you willing to let him go for? My understanding was that his original release clause was set at around £2.6m. This increases as we get closer to the deadline, so let's say its £3m on there abouts now.

Would you take £1m just to get him off our books?

And if we did, what do you think every other player would do in January if we're still under an embargo?

What would stop any of them from throwing a strop, knowing that we'd rather let them leave than have bad apples around the club.

For me, its really simple. If the release clause is met, and BdK fancies a move, he goes. If not, he stays.
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What makes you think any one would pay 3m for him ?
I had a shoulder injury similar to Bdk two years ago was my own fault fell down a flight of chairs after far to many drinks the NHS would not give me a operation because I am not a professional sportsman I had sessions with a physio at the Jr and done my exercise at home. I returned to work six weeks later and i do physical work was not a percent hundred but my attitude was to get back work and help my colleagues.
So if Bdk does not leave this window and continues to not make a effort he will be worth less in January and we will still be wasting money on his wages. Best get rid we have the lad from Coventry on loan to bost are midfield.
 
Boris said:
Apart from one comment from Ramsey that is open to interpretation, I've not seen any actual evidence that he has a bad attitude or is deliberately making himself unavailable. Clearly he is unfit and needs to put in a lot of effort in training (presumably one to one) and in the gym, but again, I've not seen proof that he isn't doing so, just a lot of uninformed chatter on here.

Hopefully he is able to get back to full fitness and play his part in shooting us up the table. We know he's a good player, we just need to get him firing on all cylinders so he can contribute.
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These are my thoughts. There seems to be an awful lot ot of hear say and conjecture going on.
 
Scotchegg said:
How much are you willing to let him go for? My understanding was that his original release clause was set at around £2.6m. This increases as we get closer to the deadline, so let's say its £3m on there abouts now.

Would you take £1m just to get him off our books?

And if we did, what do you think every other player would do in January if we're still under an embargo?

What would stop any of them from throwing a strop, knowing that we'd rather let them leave than have bad apples around the club.

For me, its really simple. If the release clause is met, and BdK fancies a move, he goes. If not, he stays.
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Does still being under embargo in Jan feel realistic to you?
 
Chrisox said:
What makes you think any one would pay 3m for him ?
I had a shoulder injury similar to Bdk two years ago was my own fault fell down a flight of chairs after far to many drinks the NHS would not give me a operation because I am not a professional sportsman I had sessions with a physio at the Jr and done my exercise at home. I returned to work six weeks later and i do physical work was not a percent hundred but my attitude was to get back work and help my colleagues.
So if Bdk does not leave this window and continues to not make a effort he will be worth less in January and we will still be wasting money on his wages. Best get rid we have the lad from Coventry on loan to bost are midfield.
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Fine him as per regs 2 weeks wages per offence
 
Mojofilter said:
Does still being under embargo in Jan feel realistic to you?
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Simple answer? No idea!

Initially I was convinced that this was just a case of getting the stadium deal past the JR and we're good to go. (I know there is still an appeal process, but it will depend if FoSB have the money and the willingness to lose big whether that happens).

But the lack of leadership and direction from within the club worries me. I could live with silence from the top if I had faith in everything being run properly, but its hard to know right now. I know people have very different opinions on Tim Williams, but at least he has been around for most of the last 4 years. I'm not seeing any leadership within the club at all at the moment.

The only positive is that Aaron Ramsey has his own team around him, and collectively they are reasonably insulated from a lot of the other stuff. But we're only a couple of key injuries away from potentially struggling, which may test the resolve of them and the fans.

I guess that I remain cautiously optimistic, but it's a f*****g mess!
 
Scotchegg said:
How much are you willing to let him go for? My understanding was that his original release clause was set at around £2.6m. This increases as we get closer to the deadline, so let's say its £3m on there abouts now.

Would you take £1m just to get him off our books?

And if we did, what do you think every other player would do in January if we're still under an embargo?

What would stop any of them from throwing a strop, knowing that we'd rather let them leave than have bad apples around the club.

For me, its really simple. If the release clause is met, and BdK fancies a move, he goes. If not, he stays.
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3m? You’re ‘avin a giraffe.
 
Boris said:
Apart from one comment from Ramsey that is open to interpretation, I've not seen any actual evidence that he has a bad attitude or is deliberately making himself unavailable. Clearly he is unfit and needs to put in a lot of effort in training (presumably one to one) and in the gym, but again, I've not seen proof that he isn't doing so, just a lot of uninformed chatter on here.

Hopefully he is able to get back to full fitness and play his part in shooting us up the table. We know he's a good player, we just need to get him firing on all cylinders so he can contribute.
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Have you been able to form an opionion of the man one-on-one?
 
Scotchegg said:
How much are you willing to let him go for? My understanding was that his original release clause was set at around £2.6m. This increases as we get closer to the deadline, so let's say its £3m on there abouts now.

Would you take £1m just to get him off our books?

And if we did, what do you think every other player would do in January if we're still under an embargo?

What would stop any of them from throwing a strop, knowing that we'd rather let them leave than have bad apples around the club.

For me, its really simple. If the release clause is met, and BdK fancies a move, he goes. If not, he stays.
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If his RC is 2.6M it won't be met. I'd move him on for a million, can see us getting more than that.
 
I'd think being photographed supporting the team at an actual match or two , saying how gutted he is that there are still some issues after missing the important run in to fix his shoulder , liking tweets from the club as quickly / as much as he did to Ole and Stan might help dispel some of the worries that he wants out at any cost.
 
MiddleBartonYellow said:
Some dismiss shoulder injuries as not that serious, to be honest it must be a bit worrying for the player that every time you fall down there is a danger of it popping out. Was it Baptiste who had a similar injury.
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No it was the LW player in the late 80’s
Gibson I think.
 
Steve Gilbert said:
On what grounds are you fining him for? Being injured? Not sure the PFA would let that happen.
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Would you not say @Steve Gilbert that, injured or not, the very least he could do is to turn up to the first home game of the season and support his fellow team mates, or does he just get a completely free pass from you? 🤔
 
Steve Gilbert said:
Bit hard to play if you aren’t fully fit.

Maybe the club should fine Leigh too.
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He's been training for a couple of months, no? When you're on the grass after a shoulder injury, it doesn't take that long to get back to match readiness; he's obviously not putting in 100% to get back to full fitness. Ramsey gave him enough grace re. different timescales and assisting Roosken, but then in a later interview he didn't cut him any slack, so he obviously hasn't seen the reaction from the player he wanted.

And in that time, we've seen Kent in the stands on crutches supporting his teammates, but BDK with a shoulder he had surgery on months ago was too injured to travel to the stadium?

I think it's obvious BDK has been pining for a move this window by not putting in 100% effort, and we won't see him until after the window closes when the likely scenario of no club coming in for him arises. Maybe then the penny will drop and we'll start see him putting in the effort required.
 
Without any knowledge of his particular circumstances, which I'm prepared to get no one on here has, it's impossible to say why he hasn't been at the games. It's not unknown for injured players to have rehab training on Saturdays, for example, when the side has a match.

I should be used to it by now but there's too many people on here jumping to conclusions based on nothing more than speculation and an unrealistic sense of grievance.
 
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