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Current Player Thread Brian De Keersmaecker

Blimey, you're going back a bit!
I remember watching Tony mainly for the reserves with my Dad(RIP) Amazing that back then players like Peter Hatch, Peter Clinch etc could eek out a living in the Combination. Halcyon days🙂
I read that Kevin Keegan had to get a part-ime summer job to make ends meet when playing for Scunthorpe.
 
Can I just make an observation, whilst trying to take the emotion out of all of this.
Let’s say we had survived in the champ again, and we had received a 4m bid for mills and around 5m for BDK….would anyone really have tried to object?!

Selling these two for example for 9m quid or so would surely put us in a strong situation. Screw paying fees, I’m talking about drafting in a quality loan striker and midfielder and possibly a winger. I would certainly bet on us for around top 6 by Xmas if we could do that and keep the band together….Jan could then be quite interesting.
 
Can I just make an observation, whilst trying to take the emotion out of all of this.
Let’s say we had survived in the champ again, and we had received a 4m bid for mills and around 5m for BDK….would anyone really have tried to object?!

Selling these two for example for 9m quid or so would surely put us in a strong situation. Screw paying fees, I’m talking about drafting in a quality loan striker and midfielder and possibly a winger. I would certainly bet on us for around top 6 by Xmas if we could do that and keep the band together….Jan could then be quite interesting.
Except we can't sign anyone?
 
Are you trying to suggest that BDK was actually ill and the people saying he was off to Blackburn were wrong?!

This (now regular) mocking of those who are clearly anxious about the prospect of losing our best players is definitely my new least favourite genre of post on this forum.
 
This (now regular) mocking of those who are clearly anxious about the prospect of losing our best players is definitely my new least favourite genre of post on this forum.
I thought there was an embargo just on transfers but it does seem that there is also an embargo on people's sense of humor too!

As for mocking, I am sure you have never mocked anyone on here for having a different view to yourself....
 
This (now regular) mocking of those who are clearly anxious about the prospect of losing our best players is definitely my new least favourite genre of post on this forum.
We're all anxious, but there's a difference between mocking that and mocking people who speak as if they know things when they actually know nothing.
 
Can I just make an observation, whilst trying to take the emotion out of all of this.
Let’s say we had survived in the champ again, and we had received a 4m bid for mills and around 5m for BDK….would anyone really have tried to object?!

Selling these two for example for 9m quid or so would surely put us in a strong situation. Screw paying fees, I’m talking about drafting in a quality loan striker and midfielder and possibly a winger. I would certainly bet on us for around top 6 by Xmas if we could do that and keep the band together….Jan could then be quite interesting.

IF we were to hold out and get 9m for Mills & BDK, then I can’t imagine there would be too many complaints. That sort of money would likely allow us to get the embargo lifted.

The worry is us selling them for half that, not being able to lift the embargo but losing two of our best players…….

But the fact that they are both still here rather implies that we are ignoring lowball offers……which is pleasing!
 
Why oh why do people on this forum try to be oneupmanship . Taking the p..s is not nice along with belittling, everyone has a right to there opinion but , what I call screen bullies , seem to want to have there opinion only every body else’s is wrong! Are we not all supporters for goodness sake, respect one another!
 
Are you trying to suggest that BDK was actually ill and the people saying he was off to Blackburn were wrong?!
We all hope he's going nowhere, but surely you can't be that naive to think that a single photo of BDK on the training pitch automatically means he's not leaving, and all Blackburn rumours were wrong?!?

He still has to train during preseason you know!!
 
Were they wrong? They might be now but not sure they were then
Do you know who's desk bids for our players end up on? Is the new chairman making these decisions, is Waldron trusted to bat away offers until we get something that is too good to refuse, or has Tim decided that we should not be looking to cash in on our assets? Can you shed some light on whether the new chairman has been physically and visibly present in the office since joining and has he been giving direction to staff?
 
Do you know who's desk bids for our players end up on? Is the new chairman making these decisions, is Waldron trusted to bat away offers until we get something that is too good to refuse, or has Tim decided that we should not be looking to cash in on our assets? Can you shed some light on whether the new chairman has been physically and visibly present in the office since joining and has he been giving direction to staff?
I'd love to know the answers to most of that as much as you. I don't think the chairman is much more visible to club employees as he is to us though no and I don't think the CEO makes many decisions when it comes to the football side of things.
 
And we wonder why we are in the s**t.
We don’t. I think we all know. The writing has been on the wall for years no matter who you looked at. Erick, Bakrie, Tiger, Grant, Tim, Dusan, Benson, Waldron - who’s actually stood out as someone who has a grasp of things in recent years? As a collective they’ve lurched from one disaster to another either individually or as a collective. Promotion is always deserved if you get it, but my god it certainly wasn’t won off the field.

The stadium is not exactly some major innovation. It was the investor opportunity from the beginning and had to happen sooner or later and Thohir took the plunge. With it, a responsibility come what may, but a major upside if he succeeded while running the club sensibly in the mean time. Nobody told him to obliterate the finances and Klarna it at ÂŁ1m a month while we got there.

I’m not wondering why we’re in the s**t, I’m more surprised it took this long.
 
We don’t. I think we all know. The writing has been on the wall for years no matter who you looked at. Erick, Bakrie, Tiger, Grant, Tim, Dusan, Benson, Waldron - who’s actually stood out as someone who has a grasp of things in recent years? As a collective they’ve lurched from one disaster to another either individually or as a collective. Promotion is always deserved if you get it, but my god it certainly wasn’t won off the field.

The stadium is not exactly some major innovation. It was the investor opportunity from the beginning and had to happen sooner or later and Thohir took the plunge. With it, a responsibility come what may, but a major upside if he succeeded while running the club sensibly in the mean time. Nobody told him to obliterate the finances and Klarna it at ÂŁ1m a month while we got there.

I’m not wondering why we’re in the s**t, I’m more surprised it took this long.
It amazes me though that people can over see not just 1 embargo but 2 and still be in a job!
 
What a strange club we are at the moment.
Absolute s**t show of a board.
Awfully terrifying lack of investment scenario.
Absolutely positive manager saying all the right things.
If we are to sell, it seems we are nowhere near dropping drawers territory.
Stan Mills keeps smiling.
If I had to make a prediction, I’d actually say we’ll keep all of our players, including BDK.

(Bearing in mind that I’ve been beyond making sense of any of this for weeks now)
 
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This forum at the moment:
YF: the club needs to tell us what’s going on.
Club: we’re going to keep the team together.
YF: we’re going to sell our best players. The club needs to tell us what’s going on
Manager: the SMT have told me we’re keeping the team together.
YF: the club needs to tell us what’s going on.
Training: said players appear at training as planned.
YF: Doesn’t mean they’re staying. The club needs to tell us what’s going on.

I agree that the silence from the ceo and chair is crap, but I also wonder what they’re going to say that is actually useful. Before Dusan’s statement loads of people said that he needed to make a statement and it could just be light touch just to keep us happy. As soon as he did there was criticism that it was lacking info and didn’t tell us anything useful. I honestly don’t think there’s anything of real use that they are going to be able to tell us. Does anyone really expect “Erick’s trying to find a buyer” or “Erick’s not trying to find a buyer” or “if planning doesn’t get past the JR we’re fucked” or “we’re doing everything we can to offload Mills at a decent price”etc?
 
This forum at the moment:
YF: the club needs to tell us what’s going on.
Club: we’re going to keep the team together.
YF: we’re going to sell our best players. The club needs to tell us what’s going on
Manager: the SMT have told me we’re keeping the team together.
YF: the club needs to tell us what’s going on.
Training: said players appear at training as planned.
YF: Doesn’t mean they’re staying. The club needs to tell us what’s going on.

I agree that the silence from the ceo and chair is crap, but I also wonder what they’re going to say that is actually useful. Before Dusan’s statement loads of people said that he needed to make a statement and it could just be light touch just to keep us happy. As soon as he did there was criticism that it was lacking info and didn’t tell us anything useful. I honestly don’t think there’s anything of real use that they are going to be able to tell us. Does anyone really expect “Erick’s trying to find a buyer” or “Erick’s not trying to find a buyer” or “if planning doesn’t get past the JR we’re fucked” or “we’re doing everything we can to offload Mills at a decent price”etc?
Totally and utterly agree. Do feel it like a nursery on here sometimes. We want a statement, release one, we now want another one
 
There’s been many post about selling to lift the embargo! The really is that selling the players wouldn’t really help unless the money is received upfront which typically isn’t the case. Most transfer fees are structured payment over a players first contracts. The embargo can only be lifted with proof we have 10-20mi in a UK bank.
 
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Totally and utterly agree. Do feel it like a nursery on here sometimes. We want a statement, release one, we now want another one
Asking for a statement doesn't mean you're asking for any statement, and would be happy with the puff that was produced. If anyone on here feels like our chairman's conduct since he arrived is anywhere near an acceptable level then they need to cop on.
 
I think that the element of excitement and intrigue of a pre season has been stolen from us and so instead of the speculation, dodgy photos at Blenheim or tattoo identification, were left asking why no one is talking to us.

Senior management seem to have decided to keep quiet, probably because they haven’t got anything else to say at the moment.

So ultimately it’s going to come down to me talking about my 1982 clover brown metro, that was always known as the crap mobile and not just for its colour
 

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