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Brexit - Deal or No Deal?

  • Deal

    Votes: 51 29.1%

  • No Deal

    Votes: 77 44.0%

  • Call in the Donald

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Call in Noel Edmonds

    Votes: 8 4.6%

  • I don't care anymore

    Votes: 37 21.1%
  • Total voters
    175
No one could predict then quite how lazy incompetent and uninterested were the three Brexiteers put in charge of the process. Davis, Johnson and Fox. couldn't score couldn't defend and in Davis' case barely turned up.

Just trying to think of comparisons. Johnson's Emiliano Diaz obviously (only there because he's got connections) Davis is one of Pepe Clotet's signings who never appeared. Ivo Pekalski maybe,
 
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YellowTaxi said:
No one could predict then quite how lazy incompetent and uninterested were the three Brexiteers put in charge of the process. Davis, Johnson and Fox. couldn't score couldn't defend and in Davis' case barely turned up.

Just trying to think of comparisons. Johnson's Emiliano Diaz obviously (only there because he's got connections) Davis is one of Pepe Clotet's signings who never appeared. Ivo Pekalski maybe,
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Who could represent Dominic Raab for failing to grasp the bleeding obvious until so late with regards Dover?
 
So basically Mrs May’s plan B is near enough the same as the original plan.

Great No deal looking better by the day. I’m all for it!
 
are you? why?

please let the board know your expertise in just in time production, health services and pharmacology production, customs and international trade, just to be on the safe side.
 
With respect to Davis Davis, his position was untenable due Maybot not allowing him to do his job. She then marginalised the Raab himself when Davis left.

A current Sky News poll suggest 54% of the public are ok with a No Deal deal...
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I would be wary of any statistics thrown at you by any company remotely linked with Rupert Murdoch.

Anyone in favour of a no deal won’t be so keen if it happens, when their house is suddenly worth 25% less than it is presently. And you can say that’s nonsense all you like, but prices fell harder than that during the financial crisis of 2008.

Negative equity with untold numbers of businesses facing uncertainty and potentially crippling export costs? What could go wrong?!
 
Marked Ox said:
Oh come on, David Davis did a god awful job.
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But if your boss, for example, creates a new plan without telling you and makes you go to Brussels to negotiate with the old one, you'll never do a great job right? And when they keep doing it...

Why do you think Gove said no to being Brexit secretary? It should be his perfect job, but he realised what a poisoned chalice that role was - you have no ability to materially negotiate and your boss doesn't tell you what she is doing, so you have little long term credibility.

I don't think anyone could have done any better with Maybot as their boss.
 
There’s a lot of nonsense talked about no deal. The reality is nobody knows.Speculation by Mark Carmel about house prices.
The rest of the EU is hardly in fine fettle.
According to Osborne we were going to be in for a really torrid time just voting no.
 
The Tory MP, [
Business Minister warns Jaguar and Mini could be forced to close in event of no-deal Brexit
Written by:
  • John Johnston

Posted On:
21st January 2019
Major car firms Jaguar and Mini could be forced to close in the UK in the event of a no-deal Brexit, a business minister warned today.

[Richard Harrington]
who previously threated to resign from the Government if it pushes ahead with a no-deal, warned that several industries could be forced to close if new trade restrictions are imposed after the UK leaves the EU on 29 March.
“I’m not afraid of no drugs etc, but I am afraid of Jaguar closing, Mini closing, the life sciences industry closing and all the other things because we’d have no agreement which represents the way these businesses are integrated today,” he said.
“It is a responsibility and we’ve got to stop it. The Prime Minister, who I am a great supporter of, should say: ‘This is the time for members of parliament to do what they were elected for.’ And the vast majority reject this no-deal nonsense and that is what we should do.”
Earlier this month, Jaguar Land Rover announced it was cutting 4,500 jobs amid growing global pressures, including the uncertainty around the UK’s future relationship with the EU.
Mr Harrington added: “It is friction. Having been to these factories, there are convoys of lorries every day with parts coming in all the time, coming in and going out. Ford in Bridgend alone are responsible for 40 million transactions. We can’t suddenly say that it's WTO and we don’t have an agreement with regulations. This is fanciful nonsense and it must stop.
“The WTO is a last-resort position. It has always been that. It is not meant for trading between some of the most sophisticated and complicated economies in the world."
 
The problem at the moment is uncertainty which business hates.
March 29th gets closer, and business needs to know what will happen.
The government wants to stay in as do the EU but the people voted out.
The anti brexit love headlines currently being put out by so many different groups, as it seeks ways to get the losers rerun of a referendum.
I also get the distinct impression that we won’t be leaving the EU as parliament may rescind article 50 or go for a second referendum with a strong likliehood that we will be left stuck in their clutches for ever.
 
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So Peter remind us of your experience in Just in time delivery logistics?
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I`ll take that one...... JIT is just a way to reduce stock holding & liability in the guise of "efficiency". Hence you see wagons parked up at BMW/Mini with loads waiting to get through the gate and the "supplier" is liable until its offloaded. The whole supply chain can be built like that and all involved will have changed working practices (at cost) to accommodate it. What they rarely do is build in a "what if" scenario...eg; Brexit.
I agree that the current situation is uncertain but not insurmountable by business. Would BMW (et al) take a bit of short term pain (holding a bit of stock) or shut up shop & re-locate with the immense on cost?
The lack of availability of advocado`s from lord knows where or yoghurt from France would do the planet a lot of good TBH.
 
YellowTaxi said:
BMW have already decided to shut down for a month

We import 50 percent of our food

Fruit and vegetables we import a huge amount.
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Come on...... they tactically moved the Summer shutdown for maintenance etc. That is shrewd on their part.... 2 birds one stone...business moves to overcome Brexit difficulties.

Yes we import a lot of fruit & veg...... mostly soft fruits, non-seasonal products and products we can`t grow (or probably need!). The green argument would be that your plastic wrapped avocado flown in from half way round the planet is neither necessary to prevent your starvation and creates huge issues as a by-product.
 
Gary Baldi said:
But if your boss, for example, creates a new plan without telling you and makes you go to Brussels to negotiate with the old one, you'll never do a great job right? And when they keep doing it...

Why do you think Gove said no to being Brexit secretary? It should be his perfect job, but he realised what a poisoned chalice that role was - you have no ability to materially negotiate and your boss doesn't tell you what she is doing, so you have little long term credibility.

I don't think anyone could have done any better with Maybot as their boss.
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HE failed to prep for all the various possibilities and do ANY research of the impact of those options on the country and economy. Don't you remember his embarrassing (and very public) efforts to conceal/stop MPs access to supposed industry impact assessments until he was forced to show them and then he admitted he hadn't done them?

All he basically did was turn up in Brussels a few times and frustrate those he was supposed to be negotiating with, otherwise he has just wasted valuable time and resources. Nice to earn good money but actually do nothing.

His performance was god awful and imo he was derelict in his duty. Scenario planning and making plans/impact assessments for all options has nothing to do with the Maybot and is standard business planning. May isn't the only one to blame for this current mess, although she takes the vast majority.

If he had actually led his Dept and got them planning/researching as he should have, he may have actually helped the Brexit arguments rather than being a hindrance.

David Davis basically failed in every way and has got off lightly for doing a shocking job.
 
So you're happy to forego bananas, oranges, tomatoes, plums peaches etc and all out of season fruit and vegetables.
 
Marked Ox said:
HE failed to prep for all the various possibilities and do ANY research of the impact of those options on the country and economy. Don't you remember his embarrassing (and very public) efforts to conceal/stop MPs access to supposed industry impact assessments until he was forced to show them and then he admitted he hadn't done them?

All he basically did was turn up in Brussels a few times and frustrate those he was supposed to be negotiating with, otherwise he has just wasted valuable time and resources. Nice to earn good money but actually do nothing.

His performance was god awful and imo he was derelict in his duty. Scenario planning and making plans/impact assessments for all options has nothing to do with the Maybot and is standard business planning. May isn't the only one to blame for this current mess, although she takes the vast majority.

If he had actually led his Dept and got them planning/researching as he should have, he may have actually helped the Brexit arguments rather than being a hindrance.

David Davis basically failed in every way and has got off lightly for doing a shocking job.
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I'm not saying he did a great job, but you over estimate the control and latitude Davis had over the process and the guidance he had from the Maybot and Ollie Robbins (the guy who should be getting the criticism). A good example is the Chequers Plan and how Maybot isolated everyone from its details until the last minute.
 
It’s all fine , really. BMW closing for a month. Fine.

No fruit and veg- fine you don’t like avocados anyway

JAPANESE TECH FIRM Sony plans to shift its UK headquarters to the Netherlands as it fears the potential consequences of a no-deal Brexit.
The move will see the firm register its £3.3bn European business in Amsterdam, moving it from its current location of Weybridge in Surrey. According to documents seen by the Telegraph, the move could be completed as soon as 29 March 2019.
Sony said the merger was to "continue business as usual without disruption" and would not result in job losses.
The relocation sees Sony following in the footsteps of fellow Japanese outfit Panasonic, which also last year announced plans to move its European HQ to Amsterdam.
The firm said at the time that it planned to relocate in order to "pursue improved efficiency and cost competitiveness while having easy access to the different markets within Europe".

It’s all normal
 
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