Brexit - the Deal or No Deal poll

Brexit - Deal or No Deal?

  • Deal

    Votes: 45 28.8%
  • No Deal

    Votes: 72 46.2%
  • Call in the Donald

    Votes: 3 1.9%
  • Call in Noel Edmonds

    Votes: 5 3.2%
  • I don't care anymore

    Votes: 31 19.9%

  • Total voters
    156

Oufcrealist

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Looks like we can kick this thread into touch now. According to Geoff Boycott on 'Good Morning Britain' we have nothing to fear from Brexit because "we fought two world wars and came out on top".

Yes, he really did say that and, presumably, thought it too.
Oh dear, oh dear. Stick to Cricket Geoff, please!!
 

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I've got an idea.

When Brexit happens, those who voted for it can have the benefits or losses in the forms of increased/decreased taxes/benefits/NHS access that ensue spread among them equally. Those who voted to remain keep the same standard of living we had before this whole debacle started.

That would have 100% backing of everyone.

PS Is anyone selling a house in Scotland, preferably close to Grenoble Road? ;)
 

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I see the EU, in their truest form of self serving bureaucracy appointed an not well regarded German defence minister as their new "President", alongside a cavalcade of other questionables. The minister is so good that the German's ran out of guns for a defence exercise and used broomsticks painted black instead and described as their weakest minister.

And just did it behind doors. What a day to be alive! 😂
 

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I see the EU, in their truest form of self serving bureaucracy appointed an not well regarded German defence minister as their new "President", alongside a cavalcade of other questionables. The minister is so good that the German's ran out of guns for a defence exercise and used broomsticks painted black instead and described as their weakest minister.

And just did it behind doors. What a day to be alive! 😂
They haven't appointed anybody yet although she has been nominated. The MEPs still have to vote for her (15th July according to the linked article) to get the job.

And the MEPs are mightily pissed off that their candidates got ignored including the one a majority voted for. The largest centre right group that actually involves her party are very vocally angry about.

 

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They haven't appointed anybody yet although she has been nominated. The MEPs still have to vote for her (15th July according to the linked article) to get the job.

And the MEPs are mightily pissed off that their candidates got ignored including the one a majority voted for. The largest centre right group that actually involves her party are very vocally angry about.

It feels like a royal stitch up. The Spanish chap who was prosecuted for insider trading is another standout candidate. What were they thinking?
 

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It feels like a royal stitch up. The Spanish chap who was prosecuted for insider trading is another standout candidate. What were they thinking?
I suspect the MEPs will vote against the appointments which will mean it will get even more interesting.
 

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Do they have the numbers though? While there has been a swing, the leading voting blocs are still powerful. I'd be surprised if this didn't go through
 

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Do they have the numbers though? While there has been a swing, the leading voting blocs are still powerful. I'd be surprised if this didn't go through
The leading bloc (which includes her Party) are angry, the Greens are angry, the other centre left groupings are angry. I don't think there is a grouping that isn't unhappy, well apart from the Brexit Party, to the point (based on what I've read) that a majority of MEPs are demanding the system is reviewed and changed.
 

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Anger is one thing, intentions to vote are another if the likes of Merkel and Macron get involved.

I cannot believe the EU actually thought it was a good idea to act like that.
 

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It feels like a royal stitch up. The Spanish chap who was prosecuted for insider trading is another standout candidate. What were they thinking?
What about the new head of the ECB ?

"In December 2016, the court found Lagarde guilty of negligence, but declined to impose a penalty. "...................thats a conviction then for "criminal negligence" but all is good......

8 year fixed term "de facto" job paying around 390,000 + expenses.....nice....
 

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Anger is one thing, intentions to vote are another if the likes of Merkel and Macron get involved.

I cannot believe the EU actually thought it was a good idea to act like that.
Based on the statements I've seen I'll be very surprised if they vote through the proposed people as she wasn't even on the list. And the MEPs see it as an attack on the European Parliament and their role from my interpretation of those comments which with the mood beforehand after the European elections for greater transparency, I can see this being a line in the sand moment. Of course, my intrepretation of the comments may be wrong.
 

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What about the new head of the ECB ?

"In December 2016, the court found Lagarde guilty of negligence, but declined to impose a penalty. "...................thats a conviction then for "criminal negligence" but all is good......

8 year fixed term "de facto" job paying around 390,000 + expenses.....nice....
I saw that one and did wonder the same thing. Regardless of the criminality, there are real questions if Lagarde as a lawyer has the relevant experience to the run the ECB. I don't know what the mandarins in the EU are thinking at the moment, but as a Brexiteer, it makes me feel justified in voting to leave.
 

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Based on the statements I've seen I'll be very surprised if they vote through the proposed people as she wasn't even on the list. And the MEPs see it as an attack on the European Parliament and their role from my interpretation of those comments which with the mood beforehand after the European elections for greater transparency, I can see this being a line in the sand moment. Of course, my intrepretation of the comments may be wrong.
Ursula was a hand picked appointment by Merkel, so she is going to fight for it. With the EUs dependence on others for their fiscal health, will MEPs bite the hand that feeds them?
 

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Ursula was a hand picked appointment by Merkel, so she is going to fight for it. With the EUs dependence on others for their fiscal health, will MEPs bite the hand that feeds them?
When you have a member of her party and leader of the Centre right bloc so publically angry, I suspect they will vote against it. That doesn't even take in to account those like the Greens, centre-left who are against it and have no stake in her. Also, the person the European Parliament proposed after voting that had a majority support for them in the Parliament is the centre right candidate from the same bloc as her party.

Also, the Germans can't withhold their contributions because they don't like it if the MEPs vote against their preferred candidate.
 
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