Sheik djibouti
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They were democratic choices from party memberships & MPs, as all leaders for parties over here are. We don't have a presidential election after all, so it's not a real comparitor.
The EUs one person vote presidential, with no choice from members (etc) or hustings (like the Tories and Lib Dems have been doing) is wholly undemocratic.
May wasn't chosen by her party membership. It never got past a Conservative (one party) MP's vote before the others withdrew she was elected (coronated) unopposed. This is less democratic than the process that von der Leyen has just been through as the whole of the European Parliament got to vote (and there was significant opposition to her election - 374 for, 327 against, 22 abstentions - Juncker got 422 in 2014). MEPs, lest we forget, who were elected by us.
As for BJ - it obviously has gone to Tory membership vote, but still in the hands of a mere 160,00 ish people who will decide what they think is best for us all at arguably a pretty pivotal moment in our history.
So again - how is that less democratic than the time-honoured process in place in Westminster....the Bastion of democracy and Parliamentary sovereignty?
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