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In a country* with fair laws this would be theft borne from greed.

*corrected

ahttps://twitter.com/JohnDalton6011/status/1358012534914248706?s=19

 

[Essexyellows]

*country

Try and get the link right during your righteous indignation.



Envy & jealousy are unpleasant bedfellows.

Being from a successful business background suggests he is abundantly qualified for the post as Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Maybe you don`t like it because of his skin colour.... or that he`s Hindu... or a teetotaller?

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

I find it so strange that when a left wing leader says ‘we should tax the rich more!’ and then the right wing media finds out they’re actually rich themselves and goes ‘Ooh! Hypocrite!!’

Well... no? They’re actually going with what they believe in, not acting in self interest. They’re not saying people shouldn’t be allowed to be rich, they’re saying that people with unimaginable wealth to most should pay a little more so that they can continue living in a nice society where everyone has free healthcare, the bins get taken every week and the roads are fixed.

The point in this instance is Rishi is both rich, and advocating tax breaks for the rich. He’s in power and enacting polices which benefit him, and a tiny proportion of the country, not the majority.

 

[QR]

Envy & jealousy are unpleasant bedfellows.

Yeah, yeah yeah. If you are rich and criticise you are hypocritical and if you are poor you are jealous. Great way to justify greed? Grow up.

I've never posted on here ever to say I want more of anything for myself (other than goals ). I want much a better education system, better hospitals etc which we won't get with greedy bastards like Sunak in power. Period.

 

[Essexyellows]

I find it so strange that when a left wing leader says ‘we should tax the rich more!’ and then the right wing media finds out they’re actually rich themselves and goes ‘Ooh! Hypocrite!!’

Well... no? They’re actually going with what they believe in, not acting in self interest. They’re not saying people shouldn’t be allowed to be rich, they’re saying that people with unimaginable wealth to most should pay a little more so that they can continue living in a nice society where everyone has free healthcare, the bins get taken every week and the roads are fixed.

The point in this instance is Rishi is both rich, and advocating tax breaks for the rich. He’s in power and enacting polices which benefit him, and a tiny proportion of the country, not the majority.

Show me a politician that hasn`t benefited from their position either by enacting policies or personal gain.

What is "unimaginable wealth"? It`s all proportionate if Rishi has many houses then that is much council tax going into the system equally it`s a hefty upkeep cost, employing folk to maintain and repair them..... it`s how a pyramid system works.
There are a few at the top and more at the bottom.... always has been always will be.
Even in ultra-communist countries not everyone is equal.... it`s a pipe dream that everyone can be.

 

[SteMerritt]

Doesn't a lot of his wealth come from his wife?

 

[Wallop]

Doesn't a lot of his wealth come from his wife?

Yes which suggests he's shown sound financial judgement in the past!

 

[dickwalton1964]

Doesn't a lot of his wealth come from his wife?

His father-in-law is a billionaire. Fair play to Sunak and the family he’s married in to, they’ve obviously been very successful at what they do. Nowt wrong with that.

 

[Oxymoron]

You don't have to be in power to benefit from a pandemic .......

 

[QR]

Show me a politician that hasn`t benefited from their position either by enacting policies or personal gain.

What is "unimaginable wealth"? It`s all proportionate if Rishi has many houses then that is much council tax going into the system equally it`s a hefty upkeep cost, employing folk to maintain and repair them..... it`s how a pyramid system works.
There are a few at the top and more at the bottom.... always has been always will be.
Even in ultra-communist countries not everyone is equal.... it`s a pipe dream that everyone can be.

Council tax is an incredibly regressive tax hugely benefiting the obscenely rich.

I thought you were against pyramid systems?

The amount of his wealth he will 'recyle' employing people etc will be minimal compared to the wealth tied up in his properties. What could a proportion of that money do for the country if invested in say education? Which itself will be 'recycled' in employing a whole raft of people with different skills.

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

Show me a politician that hasn`t benefited from their position either by enacting policies or personal gain.

What is "unimaginable wealth"? It`s all proportionate if Rishi has many houses then that is much council tax going into the system equally it`s a hefty upkeep cost, employing folk to maintain and repair them..... it`s how a pyramid system works.
There are a few at the top and more at the bottom.... always has been always will be.
Even in ultra-communist countries not everyone is equal.... it`s a pipe dream that everyone can be.

He had many faults but I’m pretty sure that Jeremy Corbyn didn’t have any policies which were purely for personal gain. Bernie Sanders is another similar one. Plenty to criticise about both but that kind of person does what they think is right, rather what will make them and their cronies rich, like the Boris Johnsons/Donald Trumps of this world.

Also I never said that everyone should have equal money, it’s funny how the right immediately go to that, like they don’t see a difference between billionaires paying their way and extreme communism! There’s a middle ground somewhere to be found, but Rishi Sunak ain’t it.

 

[QR]

His father-in-law is a billionaire. Fair play to Sunak and the family he’s married in to, they’ve obviously been very successful at what they do. Nowt wrong with that.

Hail the thieves.

 

[Manorlounger]

If he's so rich, why bother working? Why take a job as a politician? Why put himself in the public eye?

 

[dickwalton1964]

If he's so rich, why bother working? Why take a job as a politician? Why put himself in the public eye?

Why not ?

 

[QR]

If he's so rich, why bother working? Why take a job as a politician? Why put himself in the public eye?

Being in a position to keep the morally corrupt laws in place allows him to protect and increase his wealth.

The only way Blair's Labour gained powers was to concede to the wishes of those with the money.

 

[Manorlounger]

Being in a position to keep the morally corrupt laws in place allows him to protect and increase his wealth.

The only way Blair's Labour gained powers was to concede to the wishes of those with the money.

Best you vote him out then.

That's how democracy works.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

Plenty of politicians do it for the ego massage and power trip, that much is obvious. Plenty do it as a way of preserving existing systems and keeping the wealth where it is (in the hands of the 1%) and some do it because they want to make a difference and change the way things are for so many have nots.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

Best you vote him out then.

That's how democracy works.

Depends on what you want democracy to achieve really. If your reason to vote is to preserve what you got and try to make yourself richer, the you will vote a certain way. If you care more for others and making sure those without have bit of a better life, you might choose to vote another.

It depends what your motivating factors are (and how much bullshit you are prepared to swallow).

 

[QR]

Best you vote him out then.

That's how democracy works.

Not in a 'first past the post' system it doesn't. It allow a minority to gain power and act as if it's won the majority of the votes. Which is wrong be it Labour or Tory.

 

[Wallop]

Not in a 'first past the post' system it doesn't. It allow a minority to gain power and act as if it's won the majority of the votes. Which is wrong be it Labour or Tory.

Sadly though it isn’t going to change - another Cleggy embarrassment when ‘in power’

 

[Isle of Wight Yellow]

Best you vote him out then.

That's how democracy works.

More people want him out than in, but we have an outdated, antiquated and unfit for purpose system which arbitrarily and artificially divides the country into ‘seats’ of massively differing sizes and then says ‘discount all votes in this seat apart from the winner!’

Is that true democracy?

 

[Essexyellows]

Labour............. in it for the munny.....

Lord Falconer apologises for calling Covid a 'gift' for lawyers

Labour's Lord Falconer says he was talking about legal challenges, but regrets his choice of words.

www.bbc.co.uk

Corbyn has a net worth of £3 million quid for doing....ermmm...... nothing really.

Blair - net worth £60 million.

And the electorate rejected changing FPTP as a voting system albeit when offered the p**s poor alternative of AV. The choice should have been FPTP or genuine PR, hey ho life isn`t perfect.

 

[Essexyellows]

Depends on what you want democracy to achieve really. If your reason to vote is to preserve what you got and try to make yourself richer, the you will vote a certain way. If you care more for others and making sure those without have bit of a better life, you might choose to vote another.

It depends what your motivating factors are (and how much bullshit you are prepared to swallow).

And, based on the most recent General Election, more folk prefer the first option.

 

[Village-Yellow]

I've never posted on here ever to say I want more of anything for myself (other than goals ). I want much a better education system, better hospitals etc which we won't get with greedy bastards like Sunak in power. Period.

Well, 4 would have been nice yesterday

Ever since I could s**t in a nappy I doubt I have ever known a country where there has ever been sufficient money to provide a better education system, provide more hospitals, better transport networks, resolve homelessness or avoid people living below the poverty line and children going starving.

There has always been this grotesque chasm of wealth between the filthy rich and immensely poor.

No political party has ever managed to resolve the issue because the forces of economics is too great.

To steal your phrase on test and trace... Dream on Buddy

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

I don't doubt it, which is extremely sad indictment on society generally.

Pretty clear from where I'm stood that self-interest and greed are responsible for just about all problems faced by humanity and the planet more generally.

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

And, based on the most recent General Election, more folk prefer the first option.

I don't doubt it, which is extremely sad indictment on society generally.

Pretty clear from where I'm stood that self-interest and greed are responsible for just about all problems faced by humanity and the planet more generally.

 

[Essexyellows]

I don't doubt it, which is extremely sad indictment on society generally.

Pretty clear from where I'm stood that self-interest and greed are responsible for just about all problems faced by humanity and the planet more generally.

And over population combined with peoples unhealthy obsession for buying cheap, unnecessary junk from halfway round the world.

 

[QR]

And over population combined with peoples unhealthy obsession for buying cheap, unnecessary junk from halfway round the world.

Stop saying things I agree with. That's not the way it's meant to work.

 

[QR]

They're all at it.

Revealed: Queen lobbied for change in law to hide her private wealth

Monarch dispatched private solicitor to secure exemption from transparency law

www.theguardian.com

 

[Sheik Djibouti]

And over population combined with peoples unhealthy obsession for buying cheap, unnecessary junk from halfway round the world.

Both of which are greed and self interest!