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holdsteady

holdsteady

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1986
Cornwall gets its first national level football team in Truro, Brackley also promoted to that level for the first time.

Barnet return to the FL.

Doncaster and Port Vale promoted to league one, Walsall continue the massive fall from walking the title to play off failure with a home loss to Accrington, Carlisle (who were in our league last season) join Morecambe in dropping out of the FL.

Wrexham join us as Wycombe choke, Leyton Orient and Reading battle for the last play spot. Bristol Rovers (all but) and Crawley relegated.

Cardiff and Plymouth down in the championship.

Ipswich join the other two promoted teams in mathematically confirming what we have known for ages.

Still promotion, play off and relegation spots to be sorted in the final game next weekend.
 
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Essexyellows said:
Truro v Carlisle............... thats a trip.
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It is but it’s not even Truro’s longest journey, Gateshead is twenty miles further, with Hartlepool a similar distance to Carlisle.

Truro very likely to beat any previous record for distance travelled to games, especially if Torquay don’t go up in the play offs. Local derby for them will be Yeovil in that case, 140 miles but 2 and a half hour drive.

For away fans to Truro it’s about another 90 miles and an hour and a half on the a30 once the M5 finishes at Exeter, can’t see midweek games pulling in big travelling numbers.
 
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holdsteady said:
For away fans to Truro it’s about another 90 miles and an hour and a half on the a30 once the M5 finishes at Exeter, can’t see midweek games pulling in big travelling numbers.
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True, but at least the A30 is continuous dual carriageway to Truro now. That journey was much slower only a few years ago. And Truro (and wider Cornwall) is a decent place to spend a day or two. And there are regular trains on the GWR mainline.

Great for Cornwall to have a football team on the rise, and to be playing home games back in Truro - they've shared at Plymouth Parkway, Torquay, Taunton and even Gloucester in recent seasons after the Stadium for Cornwall project fell apart. Their crowds have had a massive boost this season, and kids local to me have started going down there regularly. The days of Plymouth Argyle being regarded as the 'Cornish' team (despite being in Devon) may be numbered. IF Truro can sustain the jump to the next step and massive travel burden...
 
Kernow Yellow said:
True, but at least the A30 is continuous dual carriageway to Truro now. That journey was much slower only a few years ago. And Truro (and wider Cornwall) is a decent place to spend a day or two. And there are regular trains on the GWR mainline.

Great for Cornwall to have a football team on the rise, and to be playing home games back in Truro - they've shared at Plymouth Parkway, Torquay, Taunton and even Gloucester in recent seasons after the Stadium for Cornwall project fell apart. Their crowds have had a massive boost this season, and kids local to me have started going down there regularly. The days of Plymouth Argyle being regarded as the 'Cornish' team (despite being in Devon) may be numbered. IF Truro can sustain the jump to the next step and massive travel burden...
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Lovely part of the world and an interesting addition to the higher levels of the English football pyramid if they can sustain it. Anyone planning a few days away for an away game in the school summer holidays had better get saving though going by the last time I looked, very popular place at that time of year.

If they hadn’t have pissed around with the road system a ground I could have got to by only using 3 roads as well, despite living 240 miles away as I live just off the a30 on the Hampshire/Surrey/Berkshire border.
 
Lower down but Abingdon United beat Wantage Town 2-0 on Friday night in front of a record attendance of 1,621 (iirc). 2nd time they've broken their attendance record this season apparently.

A nice tribute for Jack Badger.

Edit: Should have said they got promoted to the Hellenic Lg Premier as it was the HL Div 1 Play Off final.
 
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holdsteady said:
Google maps gave me 90 miles and an hour and a half, I am no expert on that part of the world though, not been there for 30 years.
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My apology was because no sane person from Oxford would know.

I'm offset about midway between the 2 (24 miles and 47 mins by AA) so 90 miles seemed off the scale.

Quite enough from me on this.
 
Kernow Yellow said:
True, but at least the A30 is continuous dual carriageway to Truro now. That journey was much slower only a few years ago. And Truro (and wider Cornwall) is a decent place to spend a day or two. And there are regular trains on the GWR mainline.

Great for Cornwall to have a football team on the rise, and to be playing home games back in Truro - they've shared at Plymouth Parkway, Torquay, Taunton and even Gloucester in recent seasons after the Stadium for Cornwall project fell apart. Their crowds have had a massive boost this season, and kids local to me have started going down there regularly. The days of Plymouth Argyle being regarded as the 'Cornish' team (despite being in Devon) may be numbered. IF Truro can sustain the jump to the next step and massive travel burden...
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I was born in Treliske, so personally delighted to see a Cornish team rising.
 
As I am doing the round up Liverpool win the league with a win against a truly atrocious spurs team, so bad they are even behind a truly terrible Man U team. What a European final that will be if they come through their semi finals, even if it’s only the channel 5 Thursday night cup, like a fight between two YouTubers pretending it’s for a genuine world title.

Man City v Crystal Palace in the FA cup final, which should have one member of this forum happy
 
holdsteady said:
What a European final that will be if they come through their semi finals, even if it’s only the channel 5 Thursday night cup, like a fight between two YouTubers pretending it’s for a genuine world title.
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Yeah all that is true, but UEFA in all it's wisdom will let the winner of it into the Champions League next season...
 
SteMerritt said:
Yeah all that is true, but UEFA in all it's wisdom will let the winner of it into the Champions League next season...
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Heard they are reconsidering that, if it’s Man U vs Spurs in the final Peterborough will get the place for wining the paint pot.
 
Former Oxford United Conference rivals Farley Celtic and Weymouth relegated out of the national north and south respectively, putting them 5 levels behind us. Wonder if any conference team we played is any lower than that? Not one that went bankrupt and reformed as that’s not the same club.
 
holdsteady said:
Former Oxford United Conference rivals Farley Celtic and Weymouth relegated out of the national north and south respectively, putting them 5 levels behind us. Wonder if any conference team we played is any lower than that? Not one that went bankrupt and reformed as that’s not the same club.
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Lewis and Northwich Victoria would be candidates, no idea if either went bust since.
 
holdsteady said:
Former Oxford United Conference rivals Farley Celtic and Weymouth relegated out of the national north and south respectively, putting them 5 levels behind us. Wonder if any conference team we played is any lower than that? Not one that went bankrupt and reformed as that’s not the same club.
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Histon!

Finished bottom of the Conference in 2010-11
Got relegated out of the Conference North in 2013-14
Got relegated out of the South League Premier in 2015-16
Yo-yoed around a bit, and switched leagues a couple of times, but got relegated again in 2021-22, and are currently playing in the Premier Division South of the United Counties League (where they only finished 12th this season)

I believe that's Tier 9, so they're seven levels behind us. But they've never gone bankrupt!

Kind of hard to believe they beat us 5-2 in a league game less than twenty years ago.......but I guess when you have Jack Midson, anything is possible.
 
tonyw said:
Histon!

Finished bottom of the Conference in 2010-11
Got relegated out of the Conference North in 2013-14
Got relegated out of the South League Premier in 2015-16
Yo-yoed around a bit, and switched leagues a couple of times, but got relegated again in 2021-22, and are currently playing in the Premier Division South of the United Counties League (where they only finished 12th this season)

I believe that's Tier 9, so they're seven levels behind us. But they've never gone bankrupt!

Kind of hard to believe they beat us 5-2 in a league game less than twenty years ago.......but I guess when you have Jack Midson, anything is possible.
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That’s a drop. Had a read of Histons Wikipedia page, they came up from that level, starting while we were in what’s now the championship, to drop back to it while we returned. So their rise and fall to place during our fall and rise enabling us to meet briefly.
It also means that next season they will have be in the same league fairly recently as three current championship sides of Luton stay up, can’t imagine a non phoenix/re started club at that level has ever had that happen before.
 
holdsteady said:
Former Oxford United Conference rivals Farley Celtic and Weymouth relegated out of the national north and south respectively, putting them 5 levels behind us. Wonder if any conference team we played is any lower than that? Not one that went bankrupt and reformed as that’s not the same club.
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Farsley Celtic are an utter mess at the moment. Been ground sharing many miles from their home ground as there was a fiasco around a new pitch (maybe 3g but not sure) and then the owner had a tantrum. The fans have got hold of the club now but still need to sort the pitch and deal with the original owner as he owns 2 thirds of the assets. So they'll need to find a ground share next season so won't be surprised if they drop right through.
 
Marked Ox said:
Farsley Celtic are an utter mess at the moment. Being ground sharing many miles from their home ground as there was a fiasco around a new pitch (maybe 3g but not sure) and then the owner had a tantrum. The fans have got hold of the club now but still need to sort the pitch and deal with the original owner as he owns 2 thirds of the assets. So they'll need to find a ground share next season so won't be surprised if they drop right through.
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Its on the edge of Leeds isn't it? Quite a contrast to go from playing a small non league side in Leeds to actually playing Leeds, although obviously that was true when we did it the other way round.
 
Weymouth, in the Southern League Premier Division, the seventh level of the English football league system, after relegation from the National League South in the 2024–25.

Pretty sharp decline. I play football with a former director who reckons they were spending vastly beyond their means when riding high in the Conference, probably goes without saying.

Axminster got relegated from the SW Peninsula East after their manager went elsewhere at the start of the season with most of the squad.
 
Paul Cannell said:
Weymouth, in the Southern League Premier Division, the seventh level of the English football league system, after relegation from the National League South in the 2024–25.

Pretty sharp decline. I play football with a former director who reckons they were spending vastly beyond their means when riding high in the Conference, probably goes without saying.

Axminster got relegated from the SW Peninsula East after their manager went elsewhere at the start of the season with most of the squad.
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Steve Claridge was manager at Weymouth for a bit and they had a TV show (obviously a cheap one pre Disney/Netflix days) but I can't remember if it coincided with our time playing them. Remember when it all blew up and they had to play the kids and took a few hammerings.

Shame as its the sort of place that should have a decent non league team and the sort of draw you look out for if they make it far enough in the FA cup.
 
holdsteady said:
Its on the edge of Leeds isn't it? Quite a contrast to go from playing a small non league side in Leeds to actually playing Leeds, although obviously that was true when we did it the other way round.
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Yes, it is on the edge of Leeds. Definitely on the contrast bit.

This illustrates their problems a bit for this season:

 
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