Ex-Staff Amy Cranston

chromeyellow said:
we can also see that there are certain posters who if Tim Williams rescued a child from drowning in Marston ferry Pool would complain that he jumped in with his clothes on.
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And if there was irrefutable proof that the ferry pool turned out to be a puddle, and that Tim sacrificed the child straight after, some would say "the kid's dead now, can't change that. Move on."
 
Osei Yaw said:
It's the second one (symptom of a general problem at the club).

The people who had the inside track on the Matete non-payment have, amongst other things, indicated:

We are behind on payments to the stadium consultants and we failed to pay staff bonuses on time.

As far as I'm aware, neither of those are going to see a statement from the FA or a subsequent story from the BBC. Which makes it very easy for some people to go back to their default position of 'go on then, prove it'. Which, for obvious reasons, they can't.

I suppose it then depends on whether you believe the posters on here who allude to things that won't be verified by a BBC story or a statement by the FA. I do. Because those posters were proven correct about the Matete thing. They also have track records of being correct on other stuff. And as fans of the club, I am happy to accept their motivation for sharing is to hold the club to account so that it can improve.

Even if you choose not to believe the bits above, then what about the other stuff in the public domain, and is that cause for concern that may point to a general problem at the club? Most recently, are season tickets on sale or not? Did we really publicly communicate one date for renewals, and then withdraw them from sale before that? Or, if we go back a year... then what about the fans forum that was promised by the end of the 2022/2023 season but was never delivered on time? The management at the club blatantly broke a promise on that one. I think we should be concerned about the club breaking promises to fans. What have the current regime ever done to make people confident that they're running our club professionally, or in the interest of fans?

Just yesterday, the club released a video of Buckingham talking about pre-season preparation, where he talks about how the preparation involves the coaching staff working together. He specifically name checks Amy Cranston (Head of Medical), Luke Taylor (Head of Performance) and Joe Moore ("Analyst Team"). So I think it's implied they are all important roles, yet he had to wait 3 - 4 months for Taylor and Moore to be appointed after he joined. Is that good enough? I don't think it is. Then if you look closer, the same people that were saying we were in the brown stuff on Matete, were also saying, at the time, that the club were dragging their feet on getting support in for Des.

I actually think there is enough in the public domain for people to conclude there are underlying issues at the club.
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Or at least looked into internally.

Which they may be doing of course!
 
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Osei Yaw said:
It's the second one (symptom of a general problem at the club).

The people who had the inside track on the Matete non-payment have, amongst other things, indicated:

We are behind on payments to the stadium consultants and we failed to pay staff bonuses on time.

As far as I'm aware, neither of those are going to see a statement from the FA or a subsequent story from the BBC. Which makes it very easy for some people to go back to their default position of 'go on then, prove it'. Which, for obvious reasons, they can't.

I suppose it then depends on whether you believe the posters on here who allude to things that won't be verified by a BBC story or a statement by the FA. I do. Because those posters were proven correct about the Matete thing. They also have track records of being correct on other stuff. And as fans of the club, I am happy to accept their motivation for sharing is to hold the club to account so that it can improve.

Even if you choose not to believe the bits above, then what about the other stuff in the public domain, and is that cause for concern that may point to a general problem at the club? Most recently, are season tickets on sale or not? Did we really publicly communicate one date for renewals, and then withdraw them from sale before that? Or, if we go back a year... then what about the fans forum that was promised by the end of the 2022/2023 season but was never delivered on time? The management at the club blatantly broke a promise on that one. I think we should be concerned about the club breaking promises to fans. What have the current regime ever done to make people confident that they're running our club professionally, or in the interest of fans?

Just yesterday, the club released a video of Buckingham talking about pre-season preparation, where he talks about how the preparation involves the coaching staff working together. He specifically name checks Amy Cranston (Head of Medical), Luke Taylor (Head of Performance) and Joe Moore ("Analyst Team"). So I think it's implied they are all important roles, yet he had to wait 3 - 4 months for Taylor and Moore to be appointed after he joined. Is that good enough? I don't think it is. Then if you look closer, the same people that were saying we were in the brown stuff on Matete, were also saying, at the time, that the club were dragging their feet on getting support in for Des.

I actually think there is enough in the public domain for people to conclude there are underlying issues at the club.
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Not his fault just circumstance though if he had to wait - more about other club contracts - no one in the mess that Man U had got in over gardening leaves etc
Des really isn't going to say our head of XXX who is leaving very soon to take a better paid job in a higher division by the way!
 
Osei Yaw said:
It's the second one (symptom of a general problem at the club).

The people who had the inside track on the Matete non-payment have, amongst other things, indicated:

We are behind on payments to the stadium consultants and we failed to pay staff bonuses on time.

As far as I'm aware, neither of those are going to see a statement from the FA or a subsequent story from the BBC. Which makes it very easy for some people to go back to their default position of 'go on then, prove it'. Which, for obvious reasons, they can't.

I suppose it then depends on whether you believe the posters on here who allude to things that won't be verified by a BBC story or a statement by the FA. I do. Because those posters were proven correct about the Matete thing. They also have track records of being correct on other stuff. And as fans of the club, I am happy to accept their motivation for sharing is to hold the club to account so that it can improve.

Even if you choose not to believe the bits above, then what about the other stuff in the public domain, and is that cause for concern that may point to a general problem at the club? Most recently, are season tickets on sale or not? Did we really publicly communicate one date for renewals, and then withdraw them from sale before that? Or, if we go back a year... then what about the fans forum that was promised by the end of the 2022/2023 season but was never delivered on time? The management at the club blatantly broke a promise on that one. I think we should be concerned about the club breaking promises to fans. What have the current regime ever done to make people confident that they're running our club professionally, or in the interest of fans?

Just yesterday, the club released a video of Buckingham talking about pre-season preparation, where he talks about how the preparation involves the coaching staff working together. He specifically name checks Amy Cranston (Head of Medical), Luke Taylor (Head of Performance) and Joe Moore ("Analyst Team"). So I think it's implied they are all important roles, yet he had to wait 3 - 4 months for Taylor and Moore to be appointed after he joined. Is that good enough? I don't think it is. Then if you look closer, the same people that were saying we were in the brown stuff on Matete, were also saying, at the time, that the club were dragging their feet on getting support in for Des.

I actually think there is enough in the public domain for people to conclude there are underlying issues at the club.
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This is more like it. Some actual details. And handily an email from the club arrived....

Late payments are a concern - indicate an issue in the finance department, or a lack of funds - I don't think anyone is suggesting it's a lack of funds though? Especially as apparently our "sources" have said someone got sacked for this - is this enough, or should more of the finance team get sacked? Looks like the club have responded by appointing a finance director, which seems sensible.

The comms have been an issue for a while (apart from the social media stuff that has improved a lot recently). Supposedly they'd learnt from the mistakes of last season, but the season ticket mishap suggests they haven't, altogether.

As for the coaching staff - pre-Des, there was a head of performance (who subsequently left), an analyst and assistant manager (who both left with Manning), so it's not like the club thought these roles weren't necessary - presumably the club were happy to wait for the preferred replacements, rather than it being a lack of support. The fact the head of performance and analyst were already in jobs and had to work notice periods suggests they're in demand. I'm sure the club could have appointed 2 people very quickly, but of perceived lower quality. This wouldn't necessarily have been a better decision. Especially as the club can point to winning promotion....

I definitely agree there are underlying issues, the question for me is, does it mean you need to replace some/all of the senior management team, or do you believe the existing senior management can respond and improve. My feeling would be to stick with the current bunch, mainly because the potential upheaval of a new senior management team would add a lot of risk to various parts of the club.
 
Osei Yaw said:
It's the second one (symptom of a general problem at the club).

The people who had the inside track on the Matete non-payment have, amongst other things, indicated:

We are behind on payments to the stadium consultants and we failed to pay staff bonuses on time.

As far as I'm aware, neither of those are going to see a statement from the FA or a subsequent story from the BBC. Which makes it very easy for some people to go back to their default position of 'go on then, prove it'. Which, for obvious reasons, they can't.

I suppose it then depends on whether you believe the posters on here who allude to things that won't be verified by a BBC story or a statement by the FA. I do. Because those posters were proven correct about the Matete thing. They also have track records of being correct on other stuff. And as fans of the club, I am happy to accept their motivation for sharing is to hold the club to account so that it can improve.

Even if you choose not to believe the bits above, then what about the other stuff in the public domain, and is that cause for concern that may point to a general problem at the club? Most recently, are season tickets on sale or not? Did we really publicly communicate one date for renewals, and then withdraw them from sale before that? Or, if we go back a year... then what about the fans forum that was promised by the end of the 2022/2023 season but was never delivered on time? The management at the club blatantly broke a promise on that one. I think we should be concerned about the club breaking promises to fans. What have the current regime ever done to make people confident that they're running our club professionally, or in the interest of fans?

Just yesterday, the club released a video of Buckingham talking about pre-season preparation, where he talks about how the preparation involves the coaching staff working together. He specifically name checks Amy Cranston (Head of Medical), Luke Taylor (Head of Performance) and Joe Moore ("Analyst Team"). So I think it's implied they are all important roles, yet he had to wait 3 - 4 months for Taylor and Moore to be appointed after he joined. Is that good enough? I don't think it is. Then if you look closer, the same people that were saying we were in the brown stuff on Matete, were also saying, at the time, that the club were dragging their feet on getting support in for Des.

I actually think there is enough in the public domain for people to conclude there are underlying issues at the club.
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Thanks for the detailed response. Much appreciated, and more than worrying!
 
Yellowoptimist said:
Doesnt mean their stated reason why is vindicated!
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Why not .
She notified the club before the playoff final .
She travelled to the training camp in Spain .
She came back and has worked continuously since .
She’s apparently with us for the first month of the season .
Sounds like an unhappy employee- NOT
 
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And before anyone says anything, if you genuinely believe that taking a job at Man United womens team is a better job than working for Oxford United in the 4th biggest league in world football, can you please message me your dealers number? Their new owners have absolutely no intention of prioritising that side of the football club, and as you have seen, they are already stripping away some of the funding/facilities associated with the womens side of the club.

The reasons for her departure are exactly the same as I have stated on a number of occasions. Believe what you want. I know the truth.
 
LeftSideBoy said:
And before anyone says anything, if you genuinely believe that taking a job at Man United womens team is a better job than working for Oxford United in the 4th biggest league in world football, can you please message me your dealers number? Their new owners have absolutely no intention of prioritising that side of the football club, and as you have seen, they are already stripping away some of the funding/facilities associated with the womens side of the club.

The reasons for her departure are exactly the same as I have stated on a number of occasions. Believe what you want. I know the truth.
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I don’t think anyone can argue with you now it’s been confirmed she’s moving on. Especially those that questioned you originally.
 
LeftSideBoy said:
And before anyone says anything, if you genuinely believe that taking a job at Man United womens team is a better job than working for Oxford United in the 4th biggest league in world football, can you please message me your dealers number? Their new owners have absolutely no intention of prioritising that side of the football club, and as you have seen, they are already stripping away some of the funding/facilities associated with the womens side of the club.

The reasons for her departure are exactly the same as I have stated on a number of occasions. Believe what you want. I know the truth.
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On working for Man United women, it may give her a way into the men's set up down the line which would potentially make it a better job long term.

Will she be on more money?
 
LeftSideBoy said:
And before anyone says anything, if you genuinely believe that taking a job at Man United womens team is a better job than working for Oxford United in the 4th biggest league in world football, can you please message me your dealers number? Their new owners have absolutely no intention of prioritising that side of the football club, and as you have seen, they are already stripping away some of the funding/facilities associated with the womens side of the club.

The reasons for her departure are exactly the same as I have stated on a number of occasions. Believe what you want. I know the truth.
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The women’s physio she’s replacing has just been promoted to the head physio for the men’s team at Man United.

She could well be taking that role in the men’s team in 4/5 years time herself.

She may also want to try herself in womens football, working with some of the England National teams women’s players at the highest level.

If that was my daughter I’d be incredibly proud.
 
LeftSideBoy said:
And before anyone says anything, if you genuinely believe that taking a job at Man United womens team is a better job than working for Oxford United in the 4th biggest league in world football, can you please message me your dealers number? Their new owners have absolutely no intention of prioritising that side of the football club, and as you have seen, they are already stripping away some of the funding/facilities associated with the womens side of the club.

The reasons for her departure are exactly the same as I have stated on a number of occasions. Believe what you want. I know the truth.
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"they are already stripping away some of the funding/facilities associated with the womens side of the club." - whilst not ideal, the women's facilities are new and excellent, and are going to be temporarily used by the mens team whilst their facilities are refurbished - after this season it will be back to better facilities than our club has.
The job there is also potentially a path to Prem mens teams (see their previous womens head of medical) or the England setup.

She may have issues with other management, but lets not play down the job she is going to.
 
billyturleyscurlywurly said:
Confirmation the ‘rumour doomers’ were correct.
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It's confirmation that she's leaving.

The statement also emphasises her incerdible achievements with us and is, rightly, enormously positive about her time here.

Let's just say i've seen less enthuasistic farewells

One further change within the football department comes in Head of Medical Services, Amy Cranston, leaving the club after 12 years with the club.

Amy is set to take on an exciting role as Head of Women’s Physiotherapy at Manchester United Women, and this change is a fantastic recognition of the outstanding work and dedication she has given to Oxford United.

Starting in 2012 with the Youth Academy for Girls and Boys, Amy worked her way through the medical department before becoming Head of Medical Services at the start of the 2018/19 season.

She will continue to support the club through the first month of the Championship season as we look to appoint a new Head of Medical Services, and we wish Amy every success in her new position.

Tim Williams, Chief Executive Officer, said: “...

“I am absolutely delighted that we continue to invest in the right people and the correct processes, and it shows our commitment to developing people within our organisation.

“I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Amy for everything she has put into this football club over her 12 years of service.

“Amy is one of the hardest working people I have met in her industry, but more than that, she is also an extremely good person who will be missed by all those connected with the club.

“Amy leaves with our absolute blessing and we wish her nothing but success, as we continue to do everything we can to appoint the highest quality replacement.
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Just think to all the incredible work she had to do when KR kept signing up any crock going. I reckon the reason George Thorne can even walk is due to her.

A thoroughly nice person and a great asset. It’ll be sad to see her go. Man United Women may not have the same glamour as Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City in the WSL but it’s still a very good gig. Best of luck to her up there.

As for the other positions, it seems as though there is a lot of people covering more than one position at the minute - like a sort of back room Sam Long. I hope they’re not overstretching themselves in those roles.

As for James Constable, it’s a role he is so suited for. What a guy 😍.
 
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LeftSideBoy said:
The reasons for her departure are exactly the same as I have stated on a number of occasions. Believe what you want. I know the truth.
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What exactly are the specific reasons for her departure? Not liking someone who she has pretty much nothing to do with during her working day seems a little extreme.
 
Leysboy said:
Adam Benson didn’t take the rejection well.

No idea the reasons, but she will be sorely missed. I was her number one fan, and wish her all the best in her future endeavours.
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Not another one downing tools?!
 
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