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Not sure if this stat is our general play or just based upon yesterday’s game. If it’s on yesterday’s game, then we always struggle when teams press us high as our defenders don’t have great distribution.A major problem for us is we can't pass the ball successfully. The stats at half time showed from memory 82% for them and 68% for us, so we are constantly giving the ball away even on short passes. Unless we can improve this we won't compete.
Full game 66% pass competitionNot sure if this stat is our general play or just based upon yesterday’s game. If it’s on yesterday’s game, then we always struggle when teams press us high as our defenders don’t have great distribution.
So with the Leicester stat, it just goes to prove the most important stat is goals!!Full game 66% pass competition
Leicester 47%
Qpr 75%
Bristol city 65%
Ipswich 77%
Swansea 68%
And on Charlton and Portsmouth, the latter always seem to do very well at home - Fratton Park is an amazing ground with a great atmosphere, and they make the most of that. (And there's nothing wrong with Mousinho - I still see him as the one that got away.)
As for Charlton, they aren't some tiny minnow, they're a historically fairly large club that gets almost double the crowds we do. Even so, I think of all those above the line, they stand the biggest chance of being dragged back into it.
Always has beenSo with the Leicester stat, it just goes to prove the most important stat is goals!!
Or just go full on long ball and bypass what we are not good atSomebody on RadOx after the game said that we tend to fire passes at knee height which are hard to control, whereas Birmingham and many of our opponents this season pass smoothly to feet. That basically means we’re playing teams who are better at football than us, and beating them is a hard ask but not impossible. Tactics, hard work, and pace are the key.
It takes a performance from the players on the pitch, whos going to get excited and sing about the other team outplaying us and every time we get the ball we give it away.Does it take a drummer to start the crowd now? Is that where our fan base is at?
I agree Birmingham are an average Championship side, the issue is we are a below average Championship side.I still maintain that Birmingham are an average Champ side. Look at the table - in 13th place, won 9 (before yesterday), drawn 9, lost 11. Goals for (before yesterday) 41, goals against 41. So average in every respect over the pretty significant stretch of the season so far.
So I think when we watch a games like yesterday and say that they were well- drilled, strong, organised, skillful, fast etc, we have to remember that we are judging that on how they played *against us*, and their performance might be highlighting some of our deficiencies rather than them suddenly improving from average into something special.
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I agree, but some people were claiming that our loss yesterday was down to Birmingham being the best, fastest etc team we had played this season. I was just pointing out that they are in fact, average.I agree Birmingham are an average Championship side, the issue is we are a below average Championship side.
This may well be true, but I'd suggest that we need to look at the 'why' more than the bare fact itself.
What passing options do our players have when they receive the ball?
Are our players without the ball working effectively together to create space? Do we have runners in behind, and/or others dropping short?
How many Oxford players are within 10-15 yards of the player with the ball v opposition players?
If we can't progress the ball beyond our deep lying midfielder without pumping it long and hoping to win a second ball (how many of those did we win yesterday?), then too many of our passes basically become 50/50s - can we win a header/hold up a long ball, and can we then somehow pick up that second ball?
We're too easy to press, and teams let our CBs have the ball, because they know that they aren't going to find a pass through the lines because a) we don't have a CB capable of that, and b) the movement isn't there to create the environment for that pass. We're too static in possession.
So Cam drops deep and looks for long diagonals to the wingers, but again that means we're hoping to win 50/50s.
Despite sometimes offering a really good outlet, I thought Shemmy was dire yesterday. Someone summed him up beautifully elsewhere - he drops deep and holds position when he should see there's a chance for him to run in behind, and runs in behind when there's no pass on. Late on yesterday. Cam picked it up between our LB and LCB, and their RB was out of positon. Instead of hugging the touchline, making himself available and dragging their LCB out of positions to cover him, Shemmy made a run inside and tried to go through the middle. He gave himself no space, and Cam no angle. And don't even get me started on him losing the ball trying to take on three of their players half way inside our half, resulting in possession lost and their second goal.
So many teams we play seem capable of quick little bursts of one touch passes and fluid movement to beat our press, but we so often seem so slow, ponderous and deliberative. Someone will spot the right pass, dwell a second too long, and it's gone.
Completely agree - the ball was not in the position it should have been in.I disagree.
Early on we were all over them, they didn’t get going at all.
The goal completely changed things, and it was a very lucky one which never should have happened because it was taken from the wrong place. Go in at half time 0-0 and I don’t think the rest of that game goes the way it does - their goal crushed us and buoyed them.
Their second goal was better, but still poor defending by us. It definitely felt like we were poor rather than they were anything special. And even with that in mind we created a few openings at the end.
That’s a game where I come away thinking we were poor rather than the opposition were anything special.
I still maintain that Birmingham are an average Champ side. Look at the table - in 13th place, won 9 (before yesterday), drawn 9, lost 11. Goals for (before yesterday) 41, goals against 41. So average in every respect over the pretty significant stretch of the season so far.
So I think when we watch a games like yesterday and say that they were well- drilled, strong, organised, skillful, fast etc, we have to remember that we are judging that on how they played *against us*, and their performance might be highlighting some of our deficiencies rather than them suddenly improving from average into something special.
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You see a completely different game to me then.The worst is, Birmingham are the worst team we’ve played, that’s the worry.
Disagree. Birmingham will be in the playoffs. They’ve just strengthened their squad. We saw that strength yesterday. We were tonked.I still maintain that Birmingham are an average Champ side. Look at the table - in 13th place, won 9 (before yesterday), drawn 9, lost 11. Goals for (before yesterday) 41, goals against 41. So average in every respect over the pretty significant stretch of the season so far.
So I think when we watch a games like yesterday and say that they were well- drilled, strong, organised, skillful, fast etc, we have to remember that we are judging that on how they played *against us*, and their performance might be highlighting some of our deficiencies rather than them suddenly improving from average into something special.
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53 points to be sure, they won’t give up on it but they won’t do it will they.I think this match more of less confirms relegation. If my maths is correct and at least 50 points is need to reach safety then we have to win the equivalent of eight of the remaining games.
does anybody really believe we are capable of that?
Hope the players have the same attitude.I do. Because I'd rather have hope than either moan about how sh!t we are for the next 4 months, or smugly declare that I called it in November or whenever.
I'd rather believe we can stay up until it's mathematically impossible and be wrong, than throw in the towel with 17 games left.
In all probability we'll go down, but I'll still believe we can stay up until it's impossible.
I think this match more of less confirms relegation. If my maths is correct and at least 50 points is need to reach safety then we have to win the equivalent of eight of the remaining games.
does anybody really believe we are capable of that?
You’re not going to be staying up in the Championship with Sparky starting as your centre forward.
The owner is spending big and we’re very lucky to have him but 1, he’s not spending enough - well not compared to the impressive, rather robotic Brum City, and 2, I doubt if he’s allowed to spend much more.
Dread to think what the wage bills are currently with the incredibly bloated squad .
We simply couldn’t live with the Blues yesterday. It was like a spirited pop gun against a panzer division.
Thought the subs were ok , even Romeny, who was put on show no doubt because Thohir was there. But the game was over as a contest as soon as they scored.
There’s no point screaming at the players or the manager or the board. We are up against it and it’s Wilder and Lampard next. We might get something against Cov, but not so sure on Tuesday.
I agree Birmingham are an average Championship side, the issue is we are a below average Championship side.
Agree with you.You see a completely different game to me then.
I don’t want to sound negative BUT I was just hoping we would get a point when I saw the line ups. We need BDK, Currie, Prelec, Donley all in and firing and not what we got yesterday.
Harris is the most ineffectual striker in this division. There were 4 moments in the first half where he had obviously read the brief about how heading the ball is bad for you and he even managed to miss an opportunity to head the ball when he was totally unchallenged in the middle of their half.
I am losing track of what we have or don’t have moving towards next season. I don’t think we will keep Donley (even though he has only had 15 mins) or Currie, MPH, Prelec or BDK. Those 5 alone would have us in the top 6 of L1. Without those 5 we will be a Plymouth next season.
Why does it? Atmosphere isn’t someone else’s job or responsibility. If you want it, you should be trying to create it.I tried to get the singing going in the SSU which shows how poor it was today!!
What happened to us last year thenYou’re not going to be staying up in the Championship with Sparky starting as your centre forward.
Because it’s generally not the singing/standing up section. You know,, like when we go away from home and you get those fans who insist on sitting right in the middle of the fans who tend to stand/sing because it’s the seat number on their ticket, even though they didn’t select that particular seat. Then spend all the game moaning because fans are stood up!!Why does it? Atmosphere isn’t someone else’s job or responsibility. If you want it, you should be trying to create it.
What happened to us last year then
That’s the spirit!It takes a performance from the players on the pitch, whos going to get excited and sing about the other team outplaying us and every time we get the ball we give it away.