Probably not thoughWell people are saying it’s a successful season because we got more points than last time around - they got 4 more points than us, so by that argument they were more successful and therefore happier than us?
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Probably not thoughWell people are saying it’s a successful season because we got more points than last time around - they got 4 more points than us, so by that argument they were more successful and therefore happier than us?
Probably was. We have been quite good at home this season, even in the games that we’ve lost.Worst performance of the season ?
Yes, I think so. Even in some matches where we have been poor in one half, we have been OK in the other. Yesterday was under par from start to finish.Worst performance of the season ?
Yes, I think so. Even in some matches where we have been poor in one half, we have been OK in the other. Yesterday was under par from start to finish.
The manager said we were poor after the game, and anyone who was there and claims we weren't is clearly on the wind up. Maybe, given the situation, it wasn't unexpected and there are perhaps reasons why it wasn't very good - but to maintain that it was anything other than a very disappointing display is ridiculous.
That was said after the Wycombe game but others were saying different. It’s a shame as on his day he could be a useful player to have but now the ship has sailed he can go.Too bloody right - if he doesn't want to be here, we don't want him here!
Correct.I think l am right in saying, if had beat Morecambe, drawn with Rotherham and beaten Doncaster today, we would still be a point short.
Yes spot on , need to look to next season. We scored the must goals in the league ( Wigan joint) , letting them in the other end is the issue. And as you said some players do have obvious weaknesses.I'll be honest, I'm a little surprised about all the criticisms from yesterday.
Yes, we were poor. Yes, a bunch of our best players never really got going, and some of our fringe players failed to impress. So Golding was the only positive to come out of it.
But really - what do you expect?
It was a meaningless game, after three whole seasons of games that counted. It's inevitable that your intensity is going to drop off when you're playing in a game that doesn't matter. And you're not going to be able to make/break a reputation based on one meaningless game when you've already had 45 important ones to show what you can (and can't) do.
For players like Cam & Matty T who have nothing to prove - I don't blame them for a second for going through the motions. It's psychologically a really tough thing to lift yourself for a professional sporting contest when you know it's going to have zero impact on your personal or collective goals.
For players like Seddon & McGuane who are trying to show that they have something to offer - well, unfortunately yesterday was just more confirmation of what we already knew from watching them play all season i.e. that they are players with some merits but also pretty obvious weaknesses.
It was what it was - a poor performance, but one that can be forgotten (other than the fact that Golding can clearly play) as soon as the final whistle blew.
Not said he was, but that I reckon he will be going forward.He’s not injury prone in the sense of a player regularly being injured and be also being classed as a sick note
Was criticised for wanting him out last week!I heard that we’ve retracted the contract for Sykes so if he doesn’t get another club he’s got nothing from us to fall back on, he must have really pissed robbo off.
Spot on.I'll be honest, I'm a little surprised about all the criticisms from yesterday.
Yes, we were poor. Yes, a bunch of our best players never really got going, and some of our fringe players failed to impress. So Golding was the only positive to come out of it.
But really - what do you expect?
It was a meaningless game, after three whole seasons of games that counted. It's inevitable that your intensity is going to drop off when you're playing in a game that doesn't matter. And you're not going to be able to make/break a reputation based on one meaningless game when you've already had 45 important ones to show what you can (and can't) do.
For players like Cam & Matty T who have nothing to prove - I don't blame them for a second for going through the motions. It's psychologically a really tough thing to lift yourself for a professional sporting contest when you know it's going to have zero impact on your personal or collective goals.
For players like Seddon & McGuane who are trying to show that they have something to offer - well, unfortunately yesterday was just more confirmation of what we already knew from watching them play all season i.e. that they are players with some merits but also pretty obvious weaknesses.
It was what it was - a poor performance, but one that can be forgotten (other than the fact that Golding can clearly play) as soon as the final whistle blew.
I wouldn't say Doncaster were one of the worst teams in the league strange I know as they got relegated as alluded to up the page I think a couple more games and they might have stayed up
On yesterday performance as I mentioned on a couple if pages back some players were trying some were on the beach it was a dead rubber obviously would have been nice to see us win but it wouldn't change much
Actually their point against us raised them above Wimbledon to 22nd.Pretty hard to argue against Doncaster being the second worst team in the league after they finished 23rd over 46 games.
Yes we’d have needed to draw with Sunderland tooI think l am right in saying, if had beat Morecambe, drawn with Rotherham and beaten Doncaster today, we would still be a point short.
Yes, we were some way off in the end.I think l am right in saying, if had beat Morecambe, drawn with Rotherham and beaten Doncaster today, we would still be a point short.
Is 7 points ‘some way off’ in a season where 138 were available at the start of the season?Yes, we were some way off in the end.
We were competitive and generally really good until the crucial run-in,and fell more than two wins short. You could validly judge that a good effort or a disappointing oneIs 7 points ‘some way off’ in a season where 138 were available at the start of the season?
I guess it suits those with a ‘Robinson out’ agenda but although we just weren’t good enough at the end, I don’t feel like we fell that short.
Yes Trevor. Make it simple and aim for 2 points per game. Hit that target and you're up!! Would take a bit of doing but Wigan did it this season.Yes, if you're going to go down this 5 game block route, I think you need to target 10 points or more, 9 as an occasional absolute minimum. W3 D1 L1 = 10 pts, W2 D3 = 9 pts, W3 L2 = 9 pts and so on. I recall Ian Atkins speaking of 8 pts for playoffs and 9 for auto but those numbers are not enough in L1 these days.
Yes.Is 7 points ‘some way off’ in a season where 138 were available at the start of the season?
Yes.
It's far more meaningful to look at the points we got, rather than the points a perfect team could have got.
We got 76, meaning we needed 9.2% more to sneak into the playoffs on goal difference.
At 1.652 points per game, we could have played four games more than the teams around us and still not made the last play off spot.
Being nearly 10% better in football is a lot. Doncaster, Wimbledon and Gillingham all would have stayed up with a similar percentage improvement. Rotherham would have been champions. MK Dons, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland and even Wycombe would have all gone up automatically with 9% more points.
I don't know about the lack of a break, either. We didn't play a competitive match between 21 May and 7 August this year (generously describing the Blackpool game as competitive). Similarly from 13 July 2020 to 5 September 2020, and from 7 March 2020 to 3 July 2020.
Are we really saying that the three games we played more than anyone else 2 years ago are continuing to be relevant to us not getting promoted?
If we’d had a genie come to us and give us three magical results changes:Is 7 points ‘some way off’ in a season where 138 were available at the start of the season?
I guess it suits those with a ‘Robinson out’ agenda but although we just weren’t good enough at the end, I don’t feel like we fell that short.