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We were never championship status when Des got us promoted and a 17th finish under G R was a false position which proved right and subsequently relegated last season! We have much the same squad as last season apart from one or two and of course Tyler now back .
I don’t rule out loan players coming in to strengthen the squad in which case we have a great chance of a top six finish!
If the tables showed we were 17th at the end of the season how the fcuk can that be a false position?
 
I think you've made some salient points in the post, but this one I can't really get on board with. We have a good number of players in midfield and attack who want to get on the front foot and attack. BDK and Cam always look for a forward pass, Goodrham can and has scored from anywhere, Mills likes to consistently take on his man by either cutting in or going wide, and Emakhu has pace and trickery on the other side. And let's not forget all three of our left back options like to get forward. I think all of that added with the signing of Thomas and a couple of fearless young pacey loanees, and I'm not afraid that we can quickly turn into a side that plays front-footed attacking football.
Yes, but he said the squad. We had a few, not many, players who were able to exploit quick turnovers and run at defences when we invariably looked to counter. Mills, BDK and Placheta the 3 who stand out in that regard. Mills won't be afforded as much space as he was, he'll be running into a low block of 7/8 defenders a lot this season, same for Emakhu. If we really want to be able to dominate, we need to be able progess play through the middle of the pitch, not just out wide. L1 sides would laugh their heads off if we got the ball wide and pumped balls in at every opportunity, it's what they would have trained for all week in preparation. We need a bit of finesse in the final third, someone who can come inside as well as go outside, play a ball into a striker's feet and run beyond them. We have no one of that profile in our squad, we're severely lacking in players who can unlock a defence. We're lacking in players who can really rough up centre halves and give us an option to feet and in behind. It's why Slattery and Wareham would have been so perfect for what we need but it looks like we've missed out on both.
 
If the tables showed we were 17th at the end of the season how the fcuk can that be a false position?
Luck and again (without points deduction) relegation proved that 17th was a false position going forward. It delayed the inevitable of relegation you clutch at straws !
 
Harris has 9 goals in 83 games for us in the Championship. Matty Taylor managed 7 in 67 for Bristol City.
Harris is a great example of a good League One forward. He embodies the gap between the Championship and League One as much as anyone in our squad.

I’d say the bulk of our squad are a similar level to Harris, with a few exceptions that elevate it. Hence pretty confident we’ll be around the top 6 next year if Ramsey’s capable enough.
 
Luck and again (without points deduction) relegation proved that 17th was a false position going forward. It delayed the inevitable of relegation you clutch at straws !

How was it a false position? Its where we finished after 46 games playing each team home and away. What happened the following season doesn't prove anything, the actual league table from 24/25 is the only proof of where you deserved to finish.
 
Luck and again (without points deduction) relegation proved that 17th was a false position going forward. It delayed the inevitable of relegation you clutch at straws !
You truly have lost sight of what you are trying to say.

I think you are trying to say we really didn't finish 17th and stay up in our first season in the Championship because you personally felt we should have been relegated.
I can not think of any other explanation for what you are saying.
Please correct me if I am wrong so I can better understand what you mean.
 
Nope, never said that, but league one will still be a physically demanding and tough league to get out of, which we know all too well.

I’m shocked at how many think we’re gonna coast through league one, simply because we spent a couple of seasons in the bottom third of the championship.

As I keep saying, we have a good league one squad, but we will need to add quality to it, as if we stand still, we will still be preparing for another season in league one this time next year.

The arrogance of some of our fans is astounding, and is exactly what we don’t need, we need to show league one the respect it deserves, as we know there will be plenty of sides just as capable as us of getting promoted, but only three will manage it.

If we want to be one of those three, we can’t be as complacent as some on here appear to be.
Plus, of course, there is the factor that other clubs will raise their game against former Championship Oxford United. We will be a scalp for several other sides, not least MK Dons in the opening game. It's important that we got the ground running just for our own confidence levels
 
A false position after 46 league games, every side playing every other side home and away? Sure, Jan.

Let's not bother with league tables this year, just let @Digby decide all the promotions and relegations in the EFL based on vibes.
Hey, vibes are cool. It's how I live my life
 
We've been here before.

We've had a quite a few windows now of the roller coaster of "do something" to "All hail Waldron"

I don't think the lack of news is helping, maybe the club should just sign someone to calm everyone down.
 
Luck and again (without points deduction) relegation proved that 17th was a false position going forward. It delayed the inevitable of relegation you clutch at straws !
I would try and argue with you, but then I'd worry that you'd think I thought there was some merit in your view so I'll let you carry on shouting into the void
 
Think looking on paper today our squad is at a level to have a good tilt at a promotion run. With some sizeable caveats:

- Our striker situation is reliant on unproven/inconsistent players
- We have no true backup goalkeeper
- Our manager is unproven and we're unsure of the system he wants to play

In addition to that, there's also the question mark around focusing on our recruitment to simply get out of the division, or whether we want to blood players who could improve and make up the bulk of a Championship squad. Plus the risks of losing some of our better players to bigger sides (Currie, Mills etc).

As always I'd expect the squad to be bolstered toward the end of the window as squads are settled for Prem/Champ clubs and loans become more available. So wouldn't be that concerned if we don't make a lot of incomings during pre-season as long as key players don't leave.
 
Digby is certainly not digging, Digby is being very straightforward, more to the point what went wrong?
So far a shambles thank goodness we have changed the board, the owner has unlimited resources but even he can now see we need a firm hands on approach where finances is concerned. Maybe you think money grows on Trees , we want value for money in players (take Goodwin as an example) and lesser Dembele 1.5million plus agents fees which we seem to ignore , wake up and smell the coffee . I don’t care who the player is VALUE FOR MONEY is a must !
 
I think you've made some salient points in the post, but this one I can't really get on board with. We have a good number of players in midfield and attack who want to get on the front foot and attack. BDK and Cam always look for a forward pass, Goodrham can and has scored from anywhere, Mills likes to consistently take on his man by either cutting in or going wide, and Emakhu has pace and trickery on the other side. And let's not forget all three of our left back options like to get forward. I think all of that added with the signing of Thomas and a couple of fearless young pacey loanees, and I'm not afraid that we can quickly turn into a side that plays front-footed attacking football.
It's bigger than that. If it wasn't, no relegated club would ever go down again the following season, they'd be too good, but we've seen that plenty of times.

Players come down bruised. They also don't always respect the level at which they now play their football because they feel they belong somewhere else. Some might even feel the club let them down last year, which would be true. There's a tonne of mental hurdles here that we have to overcome. It's far from impossible and I'm not trying to make this out to be some insurmountable task but you can't just plug & play a fallen side in to the division below and magically go back up because you have 3 or 4 big players.

Cardiff have gone up with a worse squad than ours. Luton & Plymouth on the other hand have comparable sides and achieved nothing. It's not an exact science and a lot depends on how quickly Ramsey can put the past in the past, knowing nothing about it from his personal experience, and get these players invested in what's in front of them.

It absolutely can be done and should be done more often than it is, but to expect it by default is unrealistic to say the least.
 
I would try and argue with you, but then I'd worry that you'd think I thought there was some merit in your view so I'll let you carry on shouting into the void
Not really bothered but the truth always hurt !
 
We've been here before.

We've had a quite a few windows now of the roller coaster of "do something" to "All hail Waldron"

I don't think the lack of news is helping, maybe the club should just sign someone to calm everyone down.
Of all the reasons to sign someone, that's not one
 
He was released it really is that simple .

His contract ran out, he told them he wouldn't be signing a new one. You can't release someone who has no contract and doesn't want to sign a new one.

Do you really think we would be signing a fourth division teams offcast? What would be the point of that? Do you think any of ours will end up in the championship?
 
Plus, of course, there is the factor that other clubs will raise their game against former Championship Oxford United. We will be a scalp for several other sides, not least MK Dons in the opening game. It's important that we got the ground running just for our own confidence levels
We start a new season, with at last, a professional coaching set up in place, hopefully that should ensure that the players are fit and ready to go.
New tactics and hopefully a more intensive pressing's games. That should get us all on our feet.
Up the Yellows!
 
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