Home Match Day Thread +++ 25/10/2019 L1 OUFC v Rochdale MDT+++

[Thomas/Brock/Jones]

Although I am sure he is enjoying his pay rise, can't be easy for Nelson. He has effectively been 1st choice centre back for the past 8 season seasons (since he was 17/18 years old!). 3rd or 4th choice must be some adjustment.

He is 26 , too old to be sitting on the bench wasting his talent

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

I think this, in an odd way, is where Nelson's plan of running down his contract has backfired.
If Cardiff were looking for a back up centre half (3rd or 4th choice) then they are not going to pay big money for anyone, to sit on the bench. So they had to find a top quality player on a free, Nelson ticked that box.
So Nelson found himself signing for a club that didn't necessarily need him because he was free, if he was still in contract and a fee of £5m was required then the team signing him would have had the intention of playing him regularly.

Yeah but if someone had paid £5m for him then he wouldn’t be getting anywhere near the wages he’s on now

 

[MC Yellow]

I think this, in an odd way, is where Nelson's plan of running down his contract has backfired.
If Cardiff were looking for a back up centre half (3rd or 4th choice) then they are not going to pay big money for anyone, to sit on the bench. So they had to find a top quality player on a free, Nelson ticked that box.
So Nelson found himself signing for a club that didn't necessarily need him because he was free, if he was still in contract and a fee of £5m was required then the team signing him would have had the intention of playing him regularly.

Money is all well and good but he could still have been earning a “reasonable sum” (in the real world at-least) for playing the game he loves week in week out and being a part of something special.

I know it is a short career but he will still have to move on to a new career regardless of what he is earning at Cardiff. So why sit on a bench and not contribute to anything? Soul destroying.

 

[MC Yellow]

Yeah but if someone had paid £5m for him then he wouldn’t be getting anywhere near the wages he’s on now

What is he likely to be earning?

 

[brassmonkey]

Isnt ledson on the bench most weeks. Johnson at boro as well. Still for 5-10k a week im pretty sure they arent that bothered.

 

[IsleofWightYellow]

What is he likely to be earning?

I have no idea. But from what I’ve heard players who move as a free agent get better wage deals than players who move for a substantial transfer fee, as the club has saved that money. Often that can be in the form of a larger than usual signing-on fee, and/or higher wages. I think it’s unarguable that Nelson is or has been paid more by Cardiff from leaving us as a free agent, than if they’d had to pay £5m for him.

 

[Left Wing Cross]

I think this, in an odd way, is where Nelson's plan of running down his contract has backfired.
If Cardiff were looking for a back up centre half (3rd or 4th choice) then they are not going to pay big money for anyone, to sit on the bench. So they had to find a top quality player on a free, Nelson ticked that box.
So Nelson found himself signing for a club that didn't necessarily need him because he was free, if he was still in contract and a fee of £5m was required then the team signing him would have had the intention of playing him regularly.

It depends how the move was sold to him. Did Cardiff tell him he might be 3rd/4th choice or was there a a very credible chance for him to be one of the centre-back pair? I don't think it is unreasonable to think he had a shot at being in the team.

 

[tonyw]

What is he likely to be earning?

I've seen different numbers reported for the average weekly wage in the Championship - but all of them were north of 10k.

Meanwhile, the average League One wage is more like 2-2.5k a week.

So even given that Nelson was likely a high earner with us, he's likely to be getting 3x the pay with Cardiff.

 

[tonyw]

The good thing in the league is that all the teams above us have flaws and/or big pressure to do well. I think Wycombe’s bubble has to burst, Posh are bottlers, Coventry are defensively suspect and Fleetwood have a w****r in charge. I think Ipswich will also feel the weight of expectancy from their fans. Good prospects for promotion as long as we keep key players injury free.

Whilst I broadly agree with you - I don't think that having a w****r in charge is necessarily a flaw! It's been a positive thing for a lot of clubs!

I didn't see the Coventry game, but I thought Fleetwood were (aside from us) the best side I've seen this season.
It's the only game we've played when we were comfortably second best (I know Brizzle & Burton beat us by more, but we were always in those games - Fleetwood battered us at times).