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Yep agree with that.Personally think Harris made it easy for the ref to give it, I don’t think it was a foul in all honestly but he made contact with the keeper and the referee bought it, the ironic thing was that I think the goal happens whether Harris engages with the keeper or not.
Ah well, we won so it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things
The funny thing about that photo is the lino was actually looking at Lankshear (I think) a milisecond before that snapshot and the ball was even further off the pitch! He also missed 2 blatant offsides for them in the first half not being in line plus the ref let a couple of yellows slide including two card-worthy fouls. Certainly not the best or most convincing officials.Here's a photo of the ball being out of play at the end, you can see the lino is not even looking.
The full video is from the Leicester City extended highlights on YouTube.
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No need to watch. There was no offence. Stop.
Pathetic “big team” refereeing.
Again.
I would rather crap decisions than have VAR.For us to be referee'd on a level playing field we need VAR in the Championship
For us to be referee'd on a level playing field we need VAR in the Championship
I think Brannagan would give away about three penalties a game with VAR so I'd rather not.For us to be referee'd on a level playing field we need VAR in the Championship
Yep agree with that.
As a referee myself I’d have disallowed the goal. Clear infringement and foul on the keeper, plus MHarris is offside and impacting the play by impeding the keeper whilst doing so.
He does appear to be looking, but at the time he was fixated on the Oxford players, so maybe this was a fleeting glance.Here's a photo of the ball being out of play at the end, you can see the lino is not even looking.
The full video is from the Leicester City extended highlights on YouTube.
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Yes, except MHarris was in an offside position when being manhandled by the keeper, so this rules out a penalty being an option. If there had have been a defender on the line covering, and the keeper prevented MHarris getting near the ball then a penalty is the obvious decision.Would you have given a penalty to us as the initial pushing is by their keeper before any of that happens?
Yes, except MHarris was in an offside position when being manhandled by the keeper, so this rules out a penalty being an option. If there had have been a defender on the line covering, and the keeper prevented MHarris getting near the ball then a penalty is the obvious decision.
Except it’s Oxford, and we don’t get penalties.
Yeah all fair, just more annoying that he didn’t need to do it at all but he made up for it with the goal later so can’t grumble too muchYep agree with that.
As a referee myself I’d have disallowed the goal. Clear infringement and foul on the keeper, plus MHarris is offside and impacting the play by impeding the keeper whilst doing so.
No one can be offside direct from a corner kick. After the initiative.phase yes but notHarris was offside when MPH headed the ball and was arguably interfering with the keeper but I don't think the lino or ref signalled offside.
There's way too much pushing and shoving at corners these days which gives some refs the excuse to blow for a foul. Particularly poor refs.....
Any experts out there to explain the offside rule to me re BDK's pass to Harris.
Is it that you can't be offside if the ball was played whilst the potentially offside player is still in his own half?
Unless the ball is in play you can not.Would you have given a penalty to us as the initial pushing is by their keeper before any of that happens?
In that case (and I am sure you are right) then refs need to get their cards out. For attackers or defenders. Corners, throws and free kicks into the box have turned into a ridiculous wrestling match. A few yellows (and probably reds) would soon put a stop to it.Unless the ball is in play you can not.
Sorry, but can I ask what you mean by this? I see there was some high profile PL game where a VAR decision took 5mins+ recently where this was also the stated outcome, but I don't understand it:Yep agree with that.
As a referee myself I’d have disallowed the goal. Clear infringement and foul on the keeper, plus MHarris is offside and impacting the play by impeding the keeper whilst doing so.
No one can be offside direct from a corner kick. After the initiative.phase yes but not
Unless the ball is in play you can not.
Harris was offside when MPH headed the ball towards goal and he prevented the keeper from moving to his left to make a save, regardless of whether he fouled him or not. No way of knowing if that was in the ref's mind when he blew though.Only possible reason for it being disallowed was Harris tussling with their keeper.
So it really should be a penalty as a push is a foul.The ball is in play when their keeper pushes Sparky before the header by MPH.
Technically this isn’t always true - you don’t need the ball to be in play to award a sanction.No one can be offside direct from a corner kick. After the initiative.phase yes but not
Unless the ball is in play you can not.
It's not just odd, it's divisive and irrelevant, when we need to be together and focussed on getting behind the team.A group singing about the prime minister during one of the biggest results in our recent history also a little odd. Don't recall us singing about any of the previous PM's regardless of what they did/didn't do in power.
I don't think you are right.Technically this isn’t always true - you don’t need the ball to be in play to award a sanction.
Imagine the situation where the ball has been kicked over the Fence End and is out of play. While waiting for a new ball to be fetched and the corner taken, the keeper punches MHarris. The ref sees it happen.
Ref must deal with the situation there and then, dismissing the keeper for violent conduct, and awarding a foul (in this case a penalty).
By applying the strict rule of only taking action when the ball is in play, you’d miss all sorts of off the ball shenanigans, and players would go unpunished unless VAR or a referee observer spotted it.
Yes. @Ewes is a qualified ref apparently! So it's a bit worrying that he thinks this.I don't think you are right.
Yes its a sending off but it can't be a penalty.
I'm happy to be shown to be wrong.
Any qualified refs here viewing
Plenty of qualified drivers who don't know the highway code properly.Yes. @Ewes is a qualified ref apparently! So it's a bit worrying that he thinks this.
It's very odd. I don't recall songs about Thatcher, Blair, or Johnson, all far more likely to be objectionable, whereas Starmer is one of the more boring, faceless, and mild PMs we've had. Or do you think there are certain Russian-backed influencers encouraging it?It's not just odd, it's divisive and irrelevant, when we need to be together and focussed on getting behind the team.
I had a couple of idiots behind me on Saturday. One made a racist comment about one of the Leicester players during his non-stop stream of drivel, for which he immediately apologised and said 'it just came out'. His mate said 'don't worry, you can say what you like'. We made it very clear to him that he definitely could not say that. His mate then started singing songs about Keir Starmer - on his own. When told to shut up he started arguing about politics, and when he got flustered he said 'can't we just concentrate on the football instead of this s**t'. Well you're the one who started singing songs about a politician and condoning racism you idiot!
Disagree about the foul but agree that about the offside. I thought, overall, the officials were terrible. Missed offsides, soft fouls given Leicester's way, inconsistency with yellow cards. But we see that every week, so no surprise.Yep agree with that.
As a referee myself I’d have disallowed the goal. Clear infringement and foul on the keeper, plus MHarris is offside and impacting the play by impeding the keeper whilst doing so.